A higher purpose for DJs / NC

[Jifto]

Gents,

I was thinking about the tertiary benefits of NC with an ex. Obviously the primary benefit is personal, you heal this way and grow faster. The secondary benefit seems to be that you gain more self respect (especially if you were with a second class woman like I was).

The tertiary benefit seems to be what the bigger purpose is being a DJ is, changing the world for the better. I know that sounds crazy but hear me out.

By keeping your frame, refusing to accept bs behavior, and treating women with the respect they treat you with, we are improving the human condition. As men it is easy to just fall in line, lay down, and let people treat us like crap because of the all mighty reward of sex. As DJs we can work to make poorly socially conditioned women realize that all men aren't like that.

We may be making a small difference, but it's a big positive difference for the women and the next guy down the road.

 

[Red Legg]

Gents,

I was thinking about the tertiary benefits of NC with an ex. Obviously the primary benefit is personal, you heal this way and grow faster. The secondary benefit seems to be that you gain more self respect (especially if you were with a second class woman like I was).

The tertiary benefit seems to be what the bigger purpose is being a DJ is, changing the world for the better. I know that sounds crazy but hear me out.

By keeping your frame, refusing to accept bs behavior, and treating women with the respect they treat you with, we are improving the human condition. As men it is easy to just fall in line, lay down, and let people treat us like crap because of the all mighty reward of sex. As DJs we can work to make poorly socially conditioned women realize that all men aren't like that.

We may be making a small difference, but it's a big positive difference for the women and the next guy down the road.

Or........you could blow her phone up relentlessly with walls and walls of texts and call her 50 times a day leaving tons of needy voicemail messages it's a reverse no contact..... that works wonders...I do it all the time with surprising results !!!!! ( it also helps you develop a DGAF attitude..)

 

[The Duke]

Gents,

By keeping your frame, refusing to accept bs behavior, and treating women with the respect they treat you with, we are improving the human condition. As men it is easy to just fall in line, lay down, and let people treat us like crap because of the all mighty reward of sex. As DJs we can work to make poorly socially conditioned women realize that all men aren't like that.

We may be making a small difference, but it's a big positive difference for the women and the next guy down the road.

Your point is very valid, but I've been down this road many times and even did my share of charity work. There's been a few girls that will tell you that I helped them become better because I kept my frame, kept my emotions in check when they didn't, didn't lay down and give them what they wanted etc. I taught them some skills they didn't have. In fact they still come to me years later when they need advice.

But the fact remains, what did Howiestern get out of the deal? It takes a few hamster wheel crashes before you get anywhere, and I don't have the energy to endure that any more. They aren't worth it. On another thread you have guys saying you should accept them because they are women(fraudulent, etc). Accepting their poor "natural" behavior is how we got in this bind. A dog's natural behavior is to schitt wherever it pleases, its up to his master to define the expectations of where that dog can and can't schitt. Eventually a dog learns and they grow into very genuine and respectful companions. I've seen women over 40 that are still schitting in the house.

 

[Serenity]

It does indeed improve the world when you call out people who do things you don't like and give them consequences. A good parent does this to their kids so they don't grow up to become shitty people. We shouldn't really allow adults to behave badly either.

 

[bigneil]

It was 6 weeks ago today that the girl I loved the most told me she was in love with someone else. I said goodbye immediately and we never spoke again. I wish I could say I forgot all about her, or that the other girls I kissed replaced her, or that it doesn't hurt anymore, but I'd only be lying. The process has only served to clarify how much she meant to me, but I know I did the right thing by walking away. Her husband had basically looked the other way when she was dating me and I wouldn't let her cuckold me the way she did him, no matter how hot she was. Obviously other men set the bar very low. Hopefully I raised it in some small way.

 

[Bingo-Player]

I was saying something similar to some friends of mine the other day

2 months ago my EX girlfriend rang me and told me she had been sleeping with her EX , I calmly told her to delete my number

For 2 months solid she has begged me to meet her saying she made a terrible mistake and needs to see me

Ive refused and explained why I don’t want to see her which was more than she deserved

She says ive taught her a lot and she has a lot of respect for me about how I’ve dealt with the situation

Said she will always feel connected to me and wants me to fvck her one last time,

as good as the pu$$y is there is a sweeter taste in knowing her will couldn’t bend mine

The next guy that comes into her life will owe me alot of beer

+1 to mankind

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Agreed with the premise of this. As I said before, it heartens me to see guys here standing by their convictions - such as Bingo's story above. I have a fairly similar, though less extreme stories of more than one of my own ex-GFs.

It's funny, the moment that you finally don't care anymore, you really move past them, because they fcked up so badly is the exact same moment that they finally wake up and realise what they've done.

Slowly, gradually, I see some women are starting to wake up again from their own conditioning. Trouble is it seems we are climbing out of such a deep mire of social inadequacy from both men and women, and the majority, may 75% are still blue pill. That's a massive improvement on ever 10 years ago though.

It's a night and day difference the way exes, women and people in general react to you when you finally accept reality for what it is and behave accordingly.

Keep going men. And spread the good word!

 

[Dash Riprock]

It's very simple:

Calling a woman out for bad behavior is the ultimate litmus test of dating viability and LTR efficacy. If they come back after a reasonable amount of time and apologize or at least try to make things right (some will not overtly apologize but still try to make amends) = maybe worth another shot. If you let them walk and go NC and never hear a peep, they are BAD choices for any long-term commitment. Either way, NC is the ultimate tool in determining any outcome.