Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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A date??

coolness89

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I just dont get it! Members here post " i went on a date at ____". I don't understand...do you specifically ask her for a date, ie. lets go on a date tommorow to (event).
I'm assuming guys say "hey, wanna hang out tommorow and go for coffee"...but then how would the girl know this is actually a "date"??

lol


I'm just confused on how I would ask some girl out on a "date"? What if she thinks its just friends hanging out like hanging with your broz.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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MisterMcGee

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sexual attraction on both ends + acknowledging that sexual attraction by flirting + asking to hang out and her accepting = date

now, this isnt true for all cases. being hooked up, dating someone youve known for a while but havent gotten to socialize/escalate freely with (such as a workmate or classmate), etc. but as for normal hookups, such as meeting a girl at a party and flirting, or simply meeting a girl and flirting, it's all pretty basic. Dont try to beat around the bush, the last thing you want is to be nervous about admitting its a date.

You're courting with the girl. Don't pretend you arent.
 

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coolness89 said:
I just dont get it! Members here post " i went on a date at ____". I don't understand...do you specifically ask her for a date, ie. lets go on a date tommorow to (event).
I'm assuming guys say "hey, wanna hang out tommorow and go for coffee"...but then how would the girl know this is actually a "date"??

lol


I'm just confused on how I would ask some girl out on a "date"? What if she thinks its just friends hanging out like hanging with your broz.
To add to what Phat Rabbit said...

It's important to realize that most of the girls you want to ask out are not even friends... they're virtual strangers who have seen a glimpse of you, and hopefully show some signs of interest. So, when you say... "hey you want to grab a cup of coffee on saturday?" they will understand that you are asking them on a "date" and it's not just friends chit chatting, because you're not friends with her. Once that ball is in your court you lay out your game. My basic rules are that you need to make her laugh, you need to make sure she knows you find her attractive (one compliment is all it takes), and you need to make sure you find out more about her than she does about you... and remember at least some of what she tells you to apply it later that night and on subsequent dates. Also, if things go well, go for the goodnight kiss... if she digs you she almost always will let you... if you get a cheek kiss, make sure you either get a real one next date or move on.
 

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"Women will forgive you for being a MAN but they will NEVER forgive you for being a PVSSY"

Amen brother! great advice. No fear, no doubt, all in, balls out.

I was rejected trying to give a kiss, next week we met up again, and I was about to walk outside her door again, she grabbed me and turned me around and we made out. Anti- Slut shield.
 

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PHAT Rabbit said:
it's more likely she's been on dates with guys who try to kiss her at the end, you'll stand out by being the guy who kisses her in the beginning.

In final... I have been rejected giving a kiss. Yes it was awkward but that was about 40 dates ago and during last summer. It really wasn't that big of a deal... I was probably confused about it for 2 days and than forgot it even happened. The best thing about being rejected is that you learn early if the girl is interested or not... and if it's a solo one on one thing almost always it will work out, unless you don't make any sexual moves. Remember this if you don't remember anything else --- "Women will forgive you for being a MAN but they will NEVER forgive you for being a PVSSY!" Be bold, you may get rejected, but she'll know you're not a coward. In all reality this is probably the number one reason why men fail with women... because they aren't MAN enough to take what they want!
I disagree, I believe that you will stand out if you kiss her period... the AFC will just not kiss her at all. It really doesn't matter whether you kiss her during or at the end of the first date... if she digs you she'll allow you to kiss her at either moment. Look at it this way... if you kiss her an hour into the date, you may not even know you like her by then... if you let the date come to a close you have a lot more time to make sure you're not giving mixed signals... this doesn't really matter if you're just looking to get laid... but you could just create unnecessary drama in your life by pissing women off who you decide not to see again.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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coolness89 said:
I'm just confused on how I would ask some girl out on a "date"? What if she thinks its just friends hanging out like hanging with your broz.
She knows by your actions. You don't pu$sy foot around and hope you don't offend her. If you do that crap, she'll never have any interest in you because she'll just see that you don't have any BALLS!

Grow a pair and do this sh!t, man.

You're making this to hard, and that's why you're having trouble. Just go after what you want. If it doesn't work out, move to the next woman. There's no reason to worry about bruising your ego by getting all upset about how a woman reacted to you. If that's the case, then you'll never even try. You'll be stuck in this rut saying "how do I get her to know that this is a date" when all you had to say was "okay it's a date" and maybe something flirty like "don't be late or I'll have to give you a spanking". If she doesn't like, she'll let you know, and you just move to the next woman who may like it. Always convey your intentions so that you won't always have to be guessing.
 

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PHAT Rabbit said:
Unnecessary drama?? If I don't want to see a hoe anymore I just won't contact her or I won't respond to her... how will this cause drama in my life?
Every once in a while you find a crazy one... that's all I'm saying.

PHAT Rabbit said:
I usually know within a half hour if I want to fvck a girl or not... and usually much sooner than that. I guess if you're looking to be pure and have a "godly" relationship than go ahead and give her a peck at the end of the date. But if you want to progress things sexually, kissing at the end of the date just means you've wasted your time or you're stalling.
I'm not opposed to sex after 3 or 4 dates... but I have to have some kind of mental connection with the girls I see. It's not all about physical attraction to me. I'm also pretty much an atheist.

PHAT Rabbit said:
Anyways, Mothballs, if kissing at the end of the date works for you... continue on with it. I'm just stating what works for me for various reasons and I guess if your goal is to have a sexual relationship with a girl after a couple dates than try it my way. I don't want to have to get into a relationship with every girl I want to sleep with... it's too much work and I feel like my balls have been stripped from me, because she holds some "sexual" power over me. Fvck that -- I'm autonomous, you can't control me.. if she wants to be a power hungry b*tch I'll just move onto the next one -- and that's usually what I do after a couple dates of that bullcrap.
Anyway, we're obviously looking for girls for different reasons. If you just want to have sex and time invested doesn't matter to you, I don't think it matters when you kiss the girl in the first date. If you're looking to have sex with her in 2-3 dates then it is probably important to get it over with as you've said.
 
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