Am I the only person who have tired off all the "Be the god" "Do these 230 things and you will be a man" "A man does not do that, a man does that..."

I get the feeling we are chasing an ideal that's way past us. We take all this stuff about self improvement too far. If you wanna be good, great, but it seems we need to be perfect to be a Don juan.

To be perfectly honest, I'm an ordinary guy, I'm slighltly modficated so I have different views on things than most off us. But if I bottomline it, I'm just an average guy, some faults, some passions, some stuff I enjoy to do, some good sides, some bad sides.

I got into this pook-mindset chasing a dream off being the perfect man. A perfect man, we can see those in literature and in movies. A man that rescues damsels in distres, climbing mountains, being perfect socialy, doing the right things all the time. The thing is that this man doesn't exist. Pooks description is really motivating, but it's just a pipe dream.

Ask yourself this: "Am I happy?" If you can answer YES to this truthfully then you don't have to climb a mountain, swim across the oceans and jump to the moon. You don't have to start a 100000000$ company and bed the queen off france.

Why do you think you were put on this planet? Why do you think you strive for being a man? To be a man yes, but I bet my training shoes that being a man equalls being happy. Don't set too high standards on yourself so you forget to live. I bet even Napolean used to sneak away and eat donuts between the battles. Maybe he enjoyed playing video games once in a while too. I sometimes go out and have a blast even if my training will be ruined for a week or I just cut my self off socially for a day, grab a big bag off candy and watch movie after movie. If I'm happy, why should I stop doing this? I get results in the gym, it is going great in school, I have no problem with women.

Being human contain one vital part off NOT being perfect. To do the wrong stuff once in a while. Accept some off your sides that's not perfect. Try to become happy. Then when things start to fall apart you know what is wrong and what to do to become happy again. Sometimes it's just good to be bad. =)

So in other words, improve yourself, but accept that you have and always will have some faults. Don't look down on people because they may some flaw and they do not improve themselves. Live, do stuff that feels good, fail, **** up, improve... enjoy! Life's too short to live the way people tell you to live, either here or anywhere else. As long as you're happy you're doing the right thing, either if people tell you you are AFC, DJ or whatever they like.

All in all, this is a big post telling you how you should live =)

naaaw dude now you start talking sh1t! you become average or w00t?? bought new crappy clothes and went on a low calorie low protein diet???nah i let you speak for yourself

I get results in the gym, it is going great in school, I have no problem with women.

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doesnt sound average to me. only that your still in school confuses me but whatever.

Ok i'm willing to admit it - i fully understand and agree with your post. but you wanted to provoke a little with your thread title. Personally i always wanted to be the above average guy but never the single best perfect guy. i dont need millions of $$$/girls/whatever - but i want some quality stuff.
And yeah although pook made an own thread "perfect is boring" i think he is a bit hung up in perfection. he knows soooo much about women, as he himself said too much because he couldnt love them anymore. sure if your not improving you're dying but letz not overdo it.

best wishes,

your biggest fan


[ok now i will stop flattering you so much haha ]

Thanks man, off every guy on SS, you're the guy to respond. But I can't beleive I missed that post by pook.


I'm pretty much the same as you, I want the quality stuff, but I do not have the will off conquering the world. I'm happy in my little corner off the galaxy, with my weights and my whey. =)

I'm talking about the balance, between improvement and letting yourself go. And living right now instead off worrying about the thing you did was AFC or DJ. The trainer was on me the other day for doing an exercise wrong, but I figurerd that if I grow I am dojng something right. It's the same with DJism, if you do something AFC but stuff still works, you're doing something right. I see no need to change that.

Cheers man, may the protein be with you

I think pook talks about, live life without regret. Climbing a mountain because YOU WANT TO, not for the sake of it. Getting in a job that YOU love, instead of a dead ender.

Lifeforce, you bring up an important issue, the balance of short term satisfaction/happiness, and long term.

It's like investing. Say, for simplicity's sake, that you have $50,000 that is yours to either spend or invest/save. By spending, you get immediate satisfaction that won't last forever, but will be enjoyed while it's lasts (not for very long). By saving, you won't get satisfaction right away, or even maybe for quite a while, but you know that when it comes it will be much better than when it started.

If you spend the entire $50,000 right away, you have a great time for a little while, but then it goes away and you are no better off. If you invest the entire $50,000, it could be years before you see any of it again and you'd be no better off until it happened.

The key is to balance it. The same goes with how we spend our time every day. Do we sit on the couch and get immediate satisfaction that won't make us feel any better the next day, or do we become productive, waiting for our work to pay off?

The truth is we need a little of both. But in reality, I think that while "chasing a dream off being the perfect man" is indeed a vain effort, striving for greatness isn't as impossible as you say.

From my perspective/experience, if you have decent quantity of motivation, once you take the first step and experience the metamorphism, you recieve a wake up call saying, "man this is great! this was so worth it!"

In the end, what you do in the short run doesn't really matter to you. What matters is the effect it has on you in the long run.

For example, weight lifting has been praised my many, many members of this board, probably because it is the most physical/tangible, easy to see, form of self improvement. The truth is, if you spend 5 years with a standard program, once the 5 years are up you will be looking good. When you look in the mirror do you think you'll tell yourself, "man, I look good but it wasn't worth it."

NO! You'll be thinking, "man, this is awesome! I look great!" You'll see how your life has changed and you'll be glad you put in the effort. In the beginning, you might be telling yourself, "is this really worth it?" but the truth is, if you stick with it, you will be satisfied.

Life is meant to be lived, but that doesn't mean there isn't room for long term goals.

Some of you guys remind of that well-dressed white dude on those informercials promising a good successful life in love and career by using positive thinking and such.