"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I have a date with a 10 tomorrow---AAAAHH what do I do!!

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I don't know any other way to phrase this except... I have never been on a date with a 10 before. I got her by being artificially super-confident and fearless. Then, literally pushing aside like 8 guys (including 2 MMA fighters that were gaming for her:eek: ) and going right for her in front of them. I really don't know what came over me for that brief moment in time, but when she said yes, I was still in super confident mode and I think I might have given her a false impression of myself. As I was leaving the club, 2 of the bouncers were looking at me with their mouths open with utter shock and said I must be high or something because they were sure that all those 'tough guys' were going to jump me as soon as I turned around.

So, I'm really not sure if there is something different that I should do with this 10 than with a normal 7-8 type of girl. I'm thinking of taking her to the RPM racing place and doing a few laps-- I don't really have a plan other than doing something that I know I will have fun doing. Should I have a plan? Am I already screwing this up? I don't know...Ill shut up now.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Don't know how to help you... but i am very curios as what you did to be super-confident and fearless if it worked so well.
 
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Ok, just imagine a lone hot girl surrounded by 8 tough guys-- then, imagine me, a normal person walking up the the circle of guys. I say very boldly, "excuse me" and walk right up to the girl in the middle of the circle and start talking to her. My opener was: "I've seen you before, whats your name?" ( I have actually seen her before somewhere ) and then we started talking. I guess it was more bravery than confidence, as I could envision a big fight ensuing had anything gone wrong.
 
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don't do anything differently! you already know what you must do. your taking her out for some fun to a place that your very comfortable at. Its your home field. Whether shes a hb 8 or 10 or w/e you already got through the part of picking her up, the rest should be cake.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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As a high valued male, you should treat ALL girls the same, whether a 10 or a 5.

A 10 just wants a guy not to put her on a pedestal or show off excessively. You need to stay unreactive because 10s are EXTREMELY good at sniffing insecurities.

Here's the bright side: She is interested. She is willing to invest her time just to have FUN with you. She doesn't even care WHAT you do. Don't plan too many activities or seem too "rehearsed." I don't even DO dates--I call girls to do things that I would be doing anyway--that way, I don't overthink it.

You said that you were "artificially" super confident, but the fact that you accomplished this shows GENUINE confidence. Now you need to accept that as fact and keep your actions congruent.

Don't make the mistake of believing that those tough dudes are a better catch than you. Chances are they are AFC's, like most guys are. The fact that you are here gives you a HUGE advantage in this situation--don't forget that.

Most 10s become 8s once you get to know them. Then, when you marry them, they become 6s.:D
 
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Sandow said:
By having this mindset ur already fvcked
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Agreed. Make sure you do something with yourself between now and then e.g. work out, write a song, write some poetry, whatever your hobbies may be. Get into yourself, become better than her, and get over her representative, you still haven't even met the real "her."

Remember, its just a matter of time before you find out all of her flaws, insecurities, and idiosyncrasies. She'll be annoying before you know it.

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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show her some MMA moves. Have a playful fight with her and let her pin you down and make out wit you LOL. I watch too many movies.:whistle:
 
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keep it simple dude... be yourself if it's going to work it will work... if not it wont work no matter how much advice you get... one thing I realized in life it's rather obvious but simple is it takes two to tango... you do ur thing if she likes you bonus for her if not she saved you some time in your life so thank her anyways...

p.s for every hot chick out there, there is a guy tired of ****ing her. remember that... that stinky hole only keeps you happy for the first couple times after that she'd better have a good personality!
 
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I think the problem is you think she is a ten.

I mean, just be yourself. Why would you want some girl to like you because of something your not?

I know the tendency on this board has always been to follow strict guides, set rules(wait three days to call etc.), and techniques on feigning confidence. Thing is, you'll learn that every girl is different and there really is no guideline you can follow to bag every girl you meet.

While I agree that following advice is ok, and alot of guys on here can give some good advice. Until you get to a place that your comfortable with yourself. Your going to come off awkward to anyone that wants to take a closer look at you.

So whats the best advice? Have fun, thats really the only advice that can get you anywhere. Depending on how you want this girl(sexual or dating and seeing where it goes, you probably dont know yet). You dont really need to take her anywhere special. If I were you I would just ask what kind of food she likes and take her to dinner. It's alot easier to get to know someone that way. Alot of men think they have to do something outrageous or out of the ordinary for dates, But trust me it doesnt matter. Quit making this into some huge deal, its really not. There alot more women if this one doesn't work out. But until then, Just get to know her and see if shes got anything besides looks. Good luck man.
 
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why are you worrying man?...so just because she happen to be dam good looking you think you must do everything perfectly?..stop holding the mentality that you are afraid to lose her and don't even dare of trying excessively to be perfect...just have fun on the date
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Wow...this was a while ago. I completely forgot about this chic. So no, I didn't bang her, nor did I ever go out on a date with her. She cancelled on me the night we were supposed to go out, then called a few days later to reschedule. At which point I said: "no way". Then, just to make myself feel better, went downtown and used my newfound confidence to meet another blonde ex-gymnast hottie and bang her that same night.

That was fun.
 
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Consider this a bonus, lol.

It takes an immense amount of skill to consistently pull 10's, right now you're at a stage where you're not comfortable running game on a 10 which is absolutely understandable.

What you need to do is just put it in perspective, go into this date with a mindset that you have nothing to lose.

Honestly, she's just a girl like every other girl, she's no different, she just looks hotter, that's all. You may need to neg her a little harder, but honestly, just go through with the date and it will be more experience under your belt.

To truly become good with anything, in this case, dating 10's, you need plenty of experience with them.

So again, don't overanalyze it, do what you did in the initial pick up, have fun with her, treat it as an experiment and most importantly, DON'T be afraid to screw things up, it's all part of the process.
 
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Kevin...

check the date on the original post.
 
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