"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

Read more...

Anyone else prefer 7's & 8's to the 9's & 10's

M

mahon83050

Banned
Joined
Jun 16, 2000
Messages
2,641
Reaction score
6
Location
Toms River,NJ United States
Maybe I am different, but I would prefer to actually date a 7 or 8 chick as opposed to a 9 or a 10.

I know alot of guys like to get super hot girfriends to show them off.

However, I am a reserved and don't like bring attention to myself. This is exactly what a 9 or a 10 will do!!

Anyone else like this?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

M

Mjazz

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Dec 28, 2006
Messages
244
Reaction score
2
um dude, a 9 or 10 doesnt have to be a stereotypical blonde bombshell, I have seen many nerdy 9s. Dont shoot for something worse if you can get something better.
 
B

BluEyes

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 6, 2006
Messages
606
Reaction score
9
Why are you 'a reserved' and stay away from a girl because of the attention it would bring?
 
M

Monkey

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 4, 2001
Messages
1,131
Reaction score
1
Location
Planet of the Apes
Definately, I'd take a quirky, fun and interesting 7/8 over a high maintenance (and usually totally fake and shallow) 9/10 anyday.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

D

DJDamage

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 6, 2004
Messages
5,657
Reaction score
104
Location
Canada
mahon83050 said:
Maybe I am different, but I would prefer to actually date a 7 or 8 chick as opposed to a 9 or a 10.

However, I am a reserved and don't like bring attention to myself. This is exactly what a 9 or a 10 will do!!

Anyone else like this?
Click to expand...
I don't care about the attention I get, as long as I am happy with her behaviour towards me and how she pleases me in bed that it doesn't matter if she is a 7 or a 10. As long as it lies within that range of looks and that line of behaviour I will be satisfied.

Granted a girl who is a 10 and does all of the above will be the bomb. However I have yet to meet such a girl since the more positives they have in one area the more negative they have in another area, a balance of the two is the ideal to look for.
 
F

FurryFriend

Don Juan
Joined
Mar 12, 2007
Messages
55
Reaction score
17
All things considered equal (such as the maintenence issue), I think most guys prefer 9s and 10s to the 7s and 8s.

But I genuinely prefer the 7s and 8s. There's just too much drama involved with dating a super hot chick because she will always get hit on by guys everywhere. I know part of being a DJ is having the self-esteem not to become jealous. But cut the BS...any self-proclaimed DJ will still get jealous when his girlfriend get asked for her phone number daily.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

Read more...

G

Guoy Darko

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 20, 2006
Messages
297
Reaction score
3
Age
43
Isn't it all preference? A girl you fall in love with is for you a 9 or a 10, but for some other dude she's maybe a 6.

If it's not, can somebody give some examples of famous 7's, 8's, 9's and 10's? I'm really wondering what's the difference between them.
 
L

L777

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 1, 2005
Messages
1,206
Reaction score
20
Age
39
Location
manchester UK
Monkey said:
Definately, I'd take a quirky, fun and interesting 7/8 over a high maintenance (and usually totally fake and shallow) 9/10 anyday.
Click to expand...
Hmmm, and if guys value looks more than girls...this is good evidence for the "looks DONT matter" clan (of which I'm not a part btw)

Just a thought...
 
M

mahon83050

Banned
Joined
Jun 16, 2000
Messages
2,641
Reaction score
6
Location
Toms River,NJ United States
Guoy Darko said:
Isn't it all preference? A girl you fall in love with is for you a 9 or a 10, but for some other dude she's maybe a 6.

If it's not, can somebody give some examples of famous 7's, 8's, 9's and 10's? I'm really wondering what's the difference between them.
Click to expand...
You do have a point, since looks are subjective. But this is how I see it

Scale:

1-4's- Chicks who are fat or have unattractive faces (few chicks fall into this category)

5-6's- Average looking chicks. These are chicks who are not ugly, but are not really cute in any sort of way. (Alot of chicks fall into this category)

7-8's- Cute and attractive looking chicks. They are not drop dead gorgeous, but they are attractive (Alot of chicks fall into this category)

E.g. Think Reese Witherspoon, Bridget Fonda, Jennifer Aniston, Christina Ricci etc.

9-10's- Women so attractive (usually perfect face and body) that almost every guy will notice her when she walks into a room. No matter what a man's tastes are, he will most likely find her very beautiful. (Very few women fall into this category)

E.g. Catherine Zeta Jones, Natalie Portman, Monica Belluci, A.J. Cook, etc.


This is my opinion of a "universal" rating scale.
 
L

lebRambo

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 31, 2005
Messages
715
Reaction score
3
in my experience, the as a you go up the scale, it gets exponentially harder to date them. Like, a 9 is 10 times more maintenance than an 8, and a 10 is 100 times more maintenance than an 8.

With that being said, I prefer 7/8. Right in that sweet spot: cute and hot in her own special way, but not hot enough to have everything delivered to her right on a plate her whole life, so she had to develop some kind of personality. THATS what I look for.
 
I

Infraction

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 30, 2007
Messages
131
Reaction score
0
lebRambo said:
in my experience, the as a you go up the scale, it gets exponentially harder to date them. Like, a 9 is 10 times more maintenance than an 8, and a 10 is 100 times more maintenance than an 8.

With that being said, I prefer 7/8. Right in that sweet spot: cute and hot in her own special way, but not hot enough to have everything delivered to her right on a plate her whole life, so she had to develop some kind of personality. THATS what I look for.
Click to expand...
Bingo.
I hang out with the less popular kids, those that have great personalitys.
There is this girl which is an 8 which has exactly what i am looking for thus makeing her more attractive than a 9.5 thats in my class.

I pretty much don't settle for somthing under a 7.5, maybe a 7 but nothing less.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

Read more...

D

djbr

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 22, 2004
Messages
962
Reaction score
12
Nothing prevents a 7 from being a pain in the azz and a 10 to treat you like a king -- too many things influence this. Hell, I know some 4's that think they're the best thing since sliced bread.

The woman has to pass the visual inspection. And after that I still expect good treatment.

About looks matter/not: damn, isn't it enough? :crackup:

Looks definitely matter, but as you exceed the criteria of a person then personality comes at play. If a 7 is doing a good job at getting you aroused and she has a great personality, most guys would prefer her instead of a 10 that had some serious issues.
 
T

thirtyplus

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 31, 2007
Messages
108
Reaction score
1
No.

Absolutely not.

There is a lot of rhetoric in this thread about what we THINK girls are like....

I would encourage guys to go out in the field and MEET and GET TO KNOW 9's and 10's to find out what they are ACTUALLY like.

A lot of "10's are *****y and shallow" is just a rationalization for not approaching of getting them....

Having said all that I absolutely prefer the hottest possible girl I can get to any others.

Given two women, both of whom are equally skilled in bed, thoughtful, intelligent, witty and funny, would you rather have one who is HOT.....or one who is SORTA UGLY?

I think the choice is clear and any guy who says it's not is just trying to fool himself.
 
D

djbr

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 22, 2004
Messages
962
Reaction score
12
thirtyplus said:
Given two women, both of whom are equally skilled in bed, thoughtful, intelligent, witty and funny, would you rather have one who is HOT.....or one who is SORTA UGLY?

I think the choice is clear and any guy who says it's not is just trying to fool himself.
Click to expand...
Taking the conditions you mentioned, any guy who choose the uglier one has self-esteem issues.
 
A

~attrACTION~

Banned
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Messages
714
Reaction score
7
Location
Heaven
What I don't understand is why do you guys even rate women? Do you treat them differently based on how hot they are? Isn't rating women the same as putting them on a pedestal? Either she turns you on, or she doesn't.

Stop rating women. I think this is worthy for its own thread.

Besides, like several people said, beauty is subjective.
 
T

thickandcreamy

Don Juan
Joined
Sep 12, 2006
Messages
136
Reaction score
0
Where's your field reports? And where's your photos to back up your field reports? I get tired of seeing all of these theory (read: speculation) posts. This goes for everyone, not just thirtyplus. I NEVER see a FR from any of you who post in these looks threads.

Thick


thirtyplus said:
Absolutely not.

There is a lot of rhetoric in this thread about what we THINK girls are like....

I would encourage guys to go out in the field and MEET and GET TO KNOW 9's and 10's to find out what they are ACTUALLY like.

A lot of "10's are *****y and shallow" is just a rationalization for not approaching of getting them....

Having said all that I absolutely prefer the hottest possible girl I can get to any others.

Given two women, both of whom are equally skilled in bed, thoughtful, intelligent, witty and funny, would you rather have one who is HOT.....or one who is SORTA UGLY?

I think the choice is clear and any guy who says it's not is just trying to fool himself.
Click to expand...
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

Read more...

You must log in or register to reply here.
22 Rules for Massive Success With Women
Top