"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What the heck is going on here? Ex-stripper!

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Stop the madness and move on. Only if you just f*c* her with very little effort on your part and can remove your emotions will this be any benefit for you. I serious doubt you can do either though from all that was described.

Put your energies into the many other women who exist to date that are not near as screwed up.

Good luck ryanbo29.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Strippers and ex-strippers alike are bad, bad news.

The main motive, I suppose, is the money.

But to be a stripper is to embrace being an attention *****.

So...examine that. If she has other men, which I certainly suspect, you should have other women.
 

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Ok I'm gonna sway away from the stripper comments and focus on you for a second bro.

You say she's not your gf but your acting like her bf, NOT GOOD!! She has your ballz in her back pocket and your letting her keep them their, also NOT GOOD!! So here's what you need to do. Cut off all contact with her for at least a week. Watch what this attention ***** will do. She'll go nutz, frantically calling you and asking you to hang out because she suddenly "has time now" because no matter where you are in her line of men, she can't lose a source of attention. Ryan, your a smart guy, but your acting stupid right now. You know EXACTLY what's going on. She's fuvkin' other doods and stringing you along. Because your acting like her bf and commitment is something she cannot do, *****s don't commit. At least she didn't say she'll be your gf, then cheat on your ass, gotta give the byatch props for that. But in all reality your only ONE of many "objects" in her world. Her beat up puss isn't worth it.

And don't call her back, especially since she didn't leave a message. She's trying to intrigue you by not leaving a message, so you'll wonder why she called. Stay strong and STOP MESSING AROUND WITH FUVKED IN THE HEAD GIRLS!!!



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Ok I'm gonna sway away from the stripper comments and focus on you for a second bro.

You say she's not your gf but your acting like her bf, NOT GOOD!! She has your ballz in her back pocket and your letting her keep them their, also NOT GOOD!! So here's what you need to do. Cut off all contact with her for at least a week. Watch what this attention ***** will do. She'll go nutz, frantically calling you and asking you to hang out because she suddenly "has time now" because no matter where you are in her line of men, she can't lose a source of attention. Ryan, your a smart guy, but your acting stupid right now. You know EXACTLY what's going on. She's fuvkin' other doods and stringing you along. Because your acting like her bf and commitment is something she cannot do, *****s don't commit. At least she didn't say she'll be your gf, then cheat on your ass, gotta give the byatch props for that. But in all reality your only ONE of many "objects" in her world. Her beat up puss isn't worth it.

And don't call her back, especially since she didn't leave a message. She's trying to intrigue you by not leaving a message, so you'll wonder why she called. Stay strong and STOP MESSING AROUND WITH FUVKED IN THE HEAD GIRLS!!!



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you guys make it sound like strippers are the worse profession in the world.

Woudl I ever DATE one? no, because there is too m uch risk for a very, very bad emotional letdown.

But I don't knock a guy that does.

I mean, if I woman wasn't to shake her ass to make money, that's her thing. I am not going to knock her for it. Doesn't mean you are scum because of it.

I don't go to strip clubs every weekend, but I have been before... like I said I was messing around with one for the better part of 4 months, and Ik now many... I have alot of personal experience with them. I mean, what's so freaking hard to understand that it's just what they choose to do?

I mean, if this girl would have never worked at a strip club (the one this post is about) and worked at Wedny's instead, would we be shocked that she was flaking on him?

Maybe she is ****ing half of the city, so what, move on!

There are regular girls who aren't strippers who flake on men.

Like I said, I would never date one, but in my past experience they are more times than not good looking, know how to have alot of fun, and if you can keep the emotions out of it, great to ****, because usually that's all of the younger ones want anyway.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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So you guys think I should just not call her for a week? I know that works early on, but after 4 months of dating?
 

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I am truly puzzled as to the reasons why so many of the guys here are so adverse towards strippers and hos. The fact that strippers and hos are generally unfaithful and probably take drugs really doesn't help much. It is the girls that shock you that all guys should be worried about. The ones that seem innocent. The ones that you think you've got pegged down but turns around and gives you a sucker punch. Blowing your mind, exposing your emotions and breaking your will. Hooking up with a stripper or ho isn't as risky as it seems. The only risk you'll have to worry about is her having serious criminal issues. But then if you can't control yourself from kneeling in front of women, then it really doesn't matter whether she's naughty or nice, you're gonna get screwed anyway.

Don't kneel before her. Do what you feel like doing and keep it cool. Just be aware of whether what you're gonna do is going to be construed by her as you kneeling before her. Even if you don't get the girl, you're definitely gonna feel a lot better knowing you didn't behave like an AFC.
 

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So you guys think I should just not call her for a week? I know that works early on, but after 4 months of dating?

you gotta make a choice

she is your booty call h0e or she is NEXT

she is not LTR material

and this guy told you YOUR PROBLEM

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You say she's not your gf but your acting like her bf, NOT GOOD!! She has your ballz in her back pocket and your letting her keep them their, also NOT GOOD

you gotta guard your heart

if you can't emotionally detach yourself from her

then i suggest you next her because you appear to lack the strength needed to pimp her out

and keep it honest with yourself


******LOL backbreaker

i look forward to your posts on strippers :)

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you guys make it sound like strippers are the worse profession in the world

lol you right school teacher is way worse

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Woudl I ever DATE one? no, because there is too m uch risk for a very, very bad emotional letdown.

no ? never date one ? HAHAHAHA

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like I said I was messing around with one for the better part of 4 months, and Ik now many... I have alot of personal experience with them

HAHAHAHAHAHA bro you are seriously making it hard for me

you are my favourite poster on sosuave you just keep getting better

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Maybe she is ****ing half of the city, so what

i love you standards for women LOL

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Like I said, I would never date one

:D

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but in my past experience they are more times than not good looking, know how to have alot of fun, and if you can keep the emotions out of it, great to ****, because usually that's all of the younger ones want anyway

i am now an offical fan boy of backbreaker :)



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Hey L.I.T.,

I saw your unusually long post and figured you must be pretty worked up, or bored....that was the only reason I posted.

I think the whole stripper issue comes up because of the guys who have tried to take them seriously and gotten burned(me for one).

I was thinking about this thread and thought what a perfect occupation this is for AW's. Much like a child molester with unlimited funds who builds an amusement park and zoo at his home.

They get constant approval and adulation from many men. They can be the center of attention until their song is over and they move to the side stage. AW's value appearance, so they are able to do this job. They also get to feel like they are morally superior to these men because they are getting money from them. They do not have to emotionally invest themselves, and most importantly, they make a lot of money to blow on drugs and purses and not have a penny to their name in five years.
 

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I saw your unusually long post and figured you must be pretty worked up, or bored....that was the only reason I posted

most of my posts are long

worked up = no

bored = no

that was the ONLY reason you posted ?

ok i don't get that lol

please explain :confused:



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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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DJ Backbreaker, tell me that this is not you talking but someone hijacked your userid!! Are you serious about your comments? Don't be so impressed with the money hos make - they'll be dead soon due to AIDS and you can't use your money when you are dead!!!:rolleyes:

Dj Lost in Translation is on the money - my response would have been much harsher!!

DJ Ryan - your @ss is going to get burned (literally and figuratively speaking)!! You are playing with fire!!! You must be desperate!!!
 

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Dj Lost in Translation is on the money - my response would have been much harsher!!

what you talkin' bout Willis ?

you trying to say i am not hard enough ?

i am too soft ?

you saying i am soft ?

wha.. ?


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Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
DJ Backbreaker, tell me that this is not you talking but someone hijacked your userid!! Are you serious about your comments? Don't be so impressed with the money hos make - they'll be dead soon due to AIDS and you can't use your money when you are dead!!!:rolleyes:

Dj Lost in Translation is on the money - my response would have been much harsher!!

DJ Ryan - your @ss is going to get burned (literally and figuratively speaking)!! You are playing with fire!!! You must be desperate!!!

lololol, no no it's not.

This is a girl I was missing around with when me and the girl Iwas seeing now were just getting to know each other.

I mean, besides the fact that she was a sripper, I hate to have ended.

That was pointless mind blowing sex if there ever was any.

ahhh... yes, thoose were the days... I had a nice little rotation going for the better part of 4 months.

I had the girl I am seeing now, the stripper, a girl worked at a bar down the street from here. Everyonce in a while, when I really didn't feel like ****ing and wanted to have fun, my friend would come over and we would watch a movie. I also had various girls here and there, but thoose were the main ones.

And my current GF knew I really didn't give a damn if she started acting up because she knew I had no problem replacing her... Hell there were times I didn't want her over my house (particularly on wednesday and thursday nights).

i would get off of work at 3:30ish, take a nap til like 6, start drinking and my friends would come over. We would either hit the bar or play Madden or Live or some game until someone got off work, either the stripper or the bartender or if my current GF wanted to come over, all was around 2-3 in the morning. I would **** until like 4:30 and wake up at 7:30..... Thoose were the days.

BTW, PuertoRican_Lover, I don't know If I told you, but I cashed out and quit my job a month ago. A couple of reasons, mainly because the other co founder liked to spend money.... the com paines money, besides making it, and I feel I can run a better company by myself then with him.

Plus I haven't had an off day in 3 years, I was burnt out.

Anyway...

I am not really impressed with the money hoes make, as much as I am happy they don't want mine.

It's like drug dealers... I am not impressed by what they do, however I don't have to worry aobut feeding them or buying them things.

I wouldn't THINK about ****ing a stripper without a condom.
 

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Let me spell this out for you, Ryanbo:

FRIEND ZONE

She is a professional, man. She is bred for one purpose: to use her attractiveness to manipulate men into doing what she wants. In the club, it's giving them money. Outside the club, it's stuff like helping them move.

As soon as you said that, "she's confiding in me" sh!t, it was obvious where you were headed with this girl. It's time to bail.

I know this from experience...with any girl who makes/used to make a living that way, you MUST keep the upper-hand at all times. She is PRIVILEGED to be able to spend time with you. Her reward for her presence and attractiveness is YOUR presence, and you have to make sure you GET what you're AFTER or you WALK.

The instant you start thinking, "Wow, maybe she IS into me enough that I can let my guard down..." is when they fvcking OWN you. With you it cost you a day of moving. For me, it was about a $100 drink tab. Do NOT catch feelings for "hos" or they WILL put you down in the friend-zone...and being in the friend-zone of a "ho" is the worst form of indentured servitude.

This isn't true for ALL women, no, but then again it IS to some extent...the more of a ho she is, the more true it is. And you can tell. Don't tell me you couldn't tell. Drugs? Stripping? Come on, man.

My advice to you is to do what you should've done a long time ago...stand up, smile, resolve to yourself that you're not gonna take the BS, and walk. If she's got any IL in you left, then she'll chase. And THEN you have to TAKE the position of power and STICK TO IT.

If you never hear from her again...you've just saved yourself a world of hurt, buddy.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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The first one who acts like they care loses. You lost. She broke you. You shouldn't of gotten mad at all.

More than likely your one of several men she is seeing. So your only renting time in the *****. You should of gotten full details on why she was stripping.

Super hot girls have men gathered around them all day long. You can't expect to have anything more than a casual fling until you conquer her.
 

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Originally posted by ryanbo29
So you guys think I should just not call her for a week? I know that works early on, but after 4 months of dating?
We're saying don't call her - as in, don't call her ever again.

Let her come over and give you sex. Don't go over there. Keep her on deck as a booty call but nothing more. She's proven herself to be worthless as anything more.

You deserve better so find something better.
 

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Why would anyone want to waste their time on a worn out, callous, shallow and self-hating hor?

Yeah, I've heard the argument that 'at least strippers are honest for horing themselves' Ok, but that only goes so far.

Consider the unnatural environment that the stripper lives in, and consider how it slowly shreds any amount of decency and self respect the stripper might have for herself, and consider how empty a strippers life really is.

Very few women enter the profession and come out of it unchanged. In fact, I'd hazard that very few can re-enter a normal lifestyle afterwards. What is in actuality a disgusting lifestyle is to them the norm.
 
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DJ Pimsicle - you are still alive? Where have you been?


DJ backbreaker, I knew something was going on when you stated in another thread that you were moving to Florida with your girl - from Arkansas to Florida - why Florida?

I figured you sold your business and decided to change your lifestyle - Don't make any rash decisions - you are moving away from home, you no longer have your business, and you are talking about marriage!!!

Theae are big changes - you are not taking drugs, are you?

Big changes in a short period lead to irrational decision making and possible downfall!. Is this girl influencing your decisions??
 

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it's actually been in the works for around 5 months now. My business partner has shown that he is more inclined to think of himself before the company, and he made one decsion that let me know it was time for me to go.

Actually, before I started my business, I was doing pretty well for myserlf selling ameriplan, and to this day I have residual income coming in from there, as well as what I cashed out on.

It's either going to miami or southern Cali... looking more and more like souther cali.

I have always loved horse racing, and I am thinking of buying a couple of 2 year olds in a couple of months and working from there.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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