When I first came here, I was all about getting girls/women. I thought that getting p*ssy and being a player was the end all be all and I was missing out on the best thing in life. Most of my best friends were naturals and (in retrospect) I'd been getting pvssy off their coattails by (for lack of better terms) being guilty by association. Between the tips they'd drop me and the things I'd pick up here, I was a molten glob of tips, tricks, & techniques. Nonetheless, I wanted more and new I could do better.

Its one thing to get pvssy, it's another thing to get the pvssy you want. As time passed & I began to step my game up, I started to get more of the pvssy I wanted and was proud of myself. Nonetheless, my ambition always got the best of me and after a month or two I'd be on to a new conquest to compete with my friends that always had multiple plates. Simultaneously, I went from being a kid with no ambitions of higher education to being what I called daring and deciding to try college for a year.

I went in state for a year before transferring to the U of AZ. I was still getting pvssy, but moving from Alaska to Arizona, I found there was a "exchange rate" e.g. what was a 10 in AK was only a 8 in AZ and a 10 in AZ was like a 25 in AK, lol. This was about the time that I realized having a wing had been my crutch of sorts. The peeps I met in my dorms were mostly AFCs, but there were a few nats. This was when I realized my next issue: I played to the level of my surroundings e.g. I couldn't compete with the nats, but I could hold my own w/ em, while I would always turn AFC when I was out with the aforementioned. Simultaneously, I realized my U had one of the best undergrad business schools in the nation, switched majors, and began taking classes year round to put me in line to apply for & graduate from said school in the same timeline of my peers that I was basically a year behind. Once again, I stepped my game up and got it done. Nevertheless, I still wasn't able to keep my game at a high level when I went out with AFC buddies.

Fast forward, I graduated from college, got a job as an executive mgr for a Fortune 100 company, persuaded said company to implement my brain child, and earned executive of the month for an unrelated project. Throughout that time I chased women much less than before.

You know what? An interesting thing happened, as I BECAME the prize, I didn't have to think or act like I was anymore, I KNEW I was the prize. What followed? Most of the fine women I wanted began to chase me! Accompanied w/ all of the knowledge I'd gained from here over the years, I had a license to be a lady killer.

I say all of this to say the following:

Tips and tricks took me so far. As I developed the DJ frame of mind, I knew what NOT to do, but not necessarily what to do. That took me further. As I grew from a boy to a man both physically and mentally, women became secondary to my ambitions of acquiring material things (shallow, I know, but besides the current point) and my other ambitions of being the best emcee (fvck rappers, but that's whole other conversation, lol) to ever come from the state of Alaska, own my own business, etc.

As I developed and pursued these passions, the women I wanted and saw in my day to day life, began pursuing me.

My "frame", the mindset I projected when conversing with women, had become my swagger, the aura I projected when doing everything I do.

When my frame became my swagger, it was fully due to the development and maturation of my inner game. This led to the women that I previously thought were "out of my league" to begin pursuing me!

You know what my biggest issues are now?
- How to tell the girl the gives me the best head that I really don't want to go with her on the all expense paid trip to San Diego she's offering me
- How do I tell the girl the the fvcks me the best that she should be more conscientious of her finances and stop buying/making me lunch and dinner so often?
- Why do I have to tell women not to fall in love with me during the first month of dating?

The Moral of This Story? "If You Build It, They Will Come" - Inner Game Leads the Way

Holl@

Inner Game>>>any game

Young Juan said:

When I first came here, I was all about getting girls/women. I thought that getting p*ssy and being a player was the end all be all and I was missing out on the best thing in life.

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I love this whole post, you speak on a lot of sh*t which I can relate too. One thing that a lot of people forget is that, you shouldn't just focused on getting p*ssy but also being the best person you can be, whether it's spiritually/mentally/financially in all aspects of your life.

I think from what I gather in your post, you are a very ambitious and driven individual. Inner game can improve from many things we experience (life experience, spirituality, a sense of self, hard work ethic etc etc). For you it was finishing college then your career but most of all from I noticed you said your passions. When I read lot of these "guru's" life stories or whatever, I don't get that I just got from you. I remember in "The Game" when Tyler Durden wanted the approval of Style so bad, he wanted to know why Style was better then him and Style simply said "I have life experience" it didn't matter what trick/technique Tyler learned, women want a man of interest a man who is about his "business" but also a man who is "ambitious" and passionate about his ambitions (its a turn on for them, it shows them you are alpha) you can learn all the "methods" and "routines' but if you don't have any "passion" in life then your life is meaningless. I see lot of Guru's talk about all the women they fcked, what about what you like to do for a hobby? what about what your favorite sports?, or your favorite music?. When I talk about, my passions to women, I noticed how their interest automatically peeks because they can tell, that I truly love what I do. That's the type of person I am, I convey my self the best about things I'm passionate about.

Your mindset will get you far not only in this "game" but in life, women should never be the main focus. But being the best man you can be. If that's getting paper for you I can't knock it (I'm about mines as well hence I work 50 plus hours a week) however I hope unlike some of these guy's that you don't become judgmental of women. One thing I've also noticed is that a lot of these "community" guys don't love women, they just wanna use'em, especially if they are successful. What happens is they become so good with women and then look at them as "objects" and then forget why they strive'd to improve themselves in the first place.

Inner game>>>>>any game (doesn't matter what method/routine)

I said this since my first siggy, Don S said it better "If you have strong Inner Game, you won't need anything else"

peace

Good post.

This is why pursuing your dream is more important than pursuing pvssies. You no longer have a fake "I am the prize" mindset, but the real one as you have achieved your dream. I forget who said this, "picking up women should be your glorified hobby".

You are from AK? I've been there, and I know what you meant by "exchange rate". Lol.

Rep to this post. Much respect.

What elevates a man who plays the game and an allstar is swagger and the confidence that you are the best; that you are the prize. Inner game outgames anything else.

DonS said:

Yeah, very good post.

What I've noticed is that when I have focused on myself by raising my standards; by taking care of my **** at work in a professional way, I am so busy I don't even go after the women, they start chasing me so hard I have to cut them off on the phone and hang up.

I've been on this raising standards kick since Jophil said something like "people with no standards in their life simply go from crisis to crisis." That really struck home with me.

Take care of yourself first and let the women come to you so you can CHOOSE to best one. Once you throw off a natural "choosy" vibe; a judgmental one if you will, this lets her know you have high standards and QUALITY ladies finds that very attractive.

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100% Truth. In addition to the above quote, I noticed a shift from being focused on women that look great, to woman that look great and have something going for themselves. It's basically like being on the other side of the window and noticing how there are a lot of good looking female AFCs, that exhibit the same behaviors I once did e.g. texting all the time, getting pissy when I don't want to hang out, calling to talk about nothing in particular, buying me sh!t I didn't ask for, etc. Now that I see how it feels, I know how them girls must've felt, lol.

To Solomon:
I'm not judgmental of women because (as I mentioned above) I see how it feels to have these female AFCs chasing me and fully understand why they acted as they did. The pendulum swings both ways, for lack of better analogies. I have two older sisters so I have a real objection to "using" women, hence sometimes I have to tell women not to break their pockets trying to make me happy & getting/doing things for me I didn't ask for. I'd consider myself more so a guy that loves women as a whole, and tells them all the truth, win lose or draw. I used to think this would make women flee, but that has yet to happen so far, which proves to me that women are attracted more to men that command respect, in my humble opinion.

Lastly, I'm still building my 'field of dreams', as I keep building, the women get better.......and they come

Holl@

good posts

That's an interesting post. However, it has a blind spot. The fact is that the OP was successful with women before finding his amitions and passions. Maybe getting that part of his life handled freed up his mind to pursue other things in life rather than having a stone in his shoe. So, does the egg come before the chicken here, or the chicken before the egg? He also mentions the fact that what he learned from his natural friends and developing his own game, helped enhance the inner game he had.

The fact is, I've read other posts on here -- I'm too lazy to do research and provide references -- although I know one is a pilot, etc... that just suck with women. They have passions or amitions in life and nadda. I'll also raise myself as an example in that one. Sure, I don't need to chase after women in my life, but I'm also oblivious to them in my environment and just relate to them in a business sort of way.

I think having a passion or career may enhance your game, but if it's really not there in the first place, I don't see how it can make a difference.

That being said, I'm into reading success stories because they make me feel uncomfortable. Being too comfortable is not good.

DonS said:

Yeah, very good post.

What I've noticed is that when I have focused on myself by raising my standards; by taking care of my **** at work in a professional way, I am so busy I don't even go after the women, they start chasing me so hard I have to cut them off on the phone and hang up.

I've been on this raising standards kick since Jophil said something like "people with no standards in their life simply go from crisis to crisis." That really struck home with me.

Take care of yourself first and let the women come to you so you can CHOOSE to best one. Once you throw off a natural "choosy" vibe; a judgemental one if you will, this lets her know you have high standards and QUALITY ladies finds that very attractive.

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I've noticed what high standards will do too and it's true what Jophil said. Another advantage of having high standards for yourself is you can spot women with high standards more easily.