"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Difference between DIRECT and INDIRECT? Help people...

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Aazman

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What is the division between a direct and indirect approaches?

and can someone give me examples. I've been doing my own thing, got a few numbers. But I want to start experimenting.

Sounds simple from the name- but i've been hearing contradicting statements. Want it sorted once and for ALL!

Peace

Aaz
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Direct is when you're confidence goes through the roof, so much so that you tell the girl if you can take a dum,p on her chest.

Indirect, is when you use some excuse to not tell her you want to take a dump over her chest.
 
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so like approaching a girl, and the first thing you say is: i like your looks. etc is direct.

Indirect is: Hey, i want your opinion on....?
then follow that up. etc.

Also don't people feel that they loose power when the girl knows your into her? Aren't you there to let her like you. not MAKE her like you?
 
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When you're going into a Direct Approach. You're letting the woman know you're intentions off the bat. "I had to...." and "Hi my names..." type of approach. When you're going Indirect, you're falsely constraining you're intentions for the women. "Excuse me, do you know where ..." and "Hey, can I get you're opinion on...."

It depends on you're delivery. If you can't say "Hi, I'm Aazman" to a chick with her saying "Hi, my names" back without thinking you're needy, showing low value and desperate then you're delivering something wrong in you're body language. Direct is hit and miss, she'll either love you for it or hate you for it. If she loves you for it, its rewarding and boosts you're call-back rate to 80%. Tough Skin Players adapt to Direct.

You have to SHOW some form of INTEREST for the girl anyway, it just skips some steps.
 
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I'm trying to develop my confidence further.

is there any type of girl who isn't turned on by this direct approach? because i've seen guys, maybe not with the right method- but still they have been instantly rejected.

This is mainly in social situations. Like being with "friends" in a course- is it still considered direct- to build repo. And when you feel, you actually like them- then go direct?

so with direct- there is no need to build repo? and what is the opposite of cold approach? is that something worth contemplating?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Direct = whip out your c0ck

Indirect = whip out your vajanga until she likes you enough to whip out your c0ck
 
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Aazman said:
is there any type of girl who isn't turned on by this direct approach? because i've seen guys, maybe not with the right method- but still they have been instantly rejected.
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If you go direct, you're showing interest right away (ie: "You are so f'in sexy"). If you go indirect, you're not showing interest right away (ie: asking for directions).

You still have to do all the work and you will get rejected doing both methods. There is no 100% rejection-proof method.
 
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My method is "indirectly direct." I express my intentions w/o coming on heavy.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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wow, the choices....

i prefer direct, yet the only thing i wonder is: you only do direct approach if you think the chick likes you or regardless?

can someone please describe these two in a bit more detail: i'm still lost... ;/
 
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Read some stuff man.

Start with the creators of each method.

Mystery: indirect
Badboy: direct

They'll explain it better than we will.
 
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If you see tyler durden's blueprints: he talks about how you dont work. You don't chase. you let them come to you. into your world. Which is all dandy. But that requires what?
 
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Tried / trying both and I think you get a feel for it over time. With indirect you give her a chance to get to know you and you can demonstrate to her that you are a higher value than her, with direct you show confidence and that you are into her but you remove the mystery and the chase. If you can tell that she's attracted to you, I would go direct. If you can't tell, go indirect. I'm learning that building some mystery is a good idea, your odds go up.
 

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When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Direct and Indirect isn't so black and white.
For example I can say "Hey what time is it?" but I can look at her or touch her and some point in the conversation. I used an indirect opener but me kinoing her and using eye contact lets her know that I am interested in getting to know her better...
 
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Omg, could no one answer OP's simple question?


Example: A girl is in the food court at the mall eating by herself.

Direct: "I just noticed you from across the room and had to come over and meet you. My name is OP. What's your name?"

Indirect: "Excuse me. Can I ask you a quick question? My cousin's birthday is next week and you seem to have the same sense of style as her. Where did you get that cool shirt?"
 
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The Mad Ghost said:
Direct is when you're confidence goes through the roof, so much so that you tell the girl if you can take a dum,p on her chest.

Indirect, is when you use some excuse to not tell her you want to take a dump over her chest.
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Yeah, that makes it clear for the newb OP. =)
 
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