Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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How Rare Are Attractive Men Actually?

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This video showed up in my feed. The statistics are interesting. Being a 6-6-6 guy, is extremely rare.
Biggest take away: there's a correlation between being considered conventionally attractive (facial) and being in shape (muscular + low BF), something you can control.

 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Forum has gone gay.
 

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"How Rare Are Attractive Men Actually?"

Pause.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Wheat Waffles - who's rated 60'000 faces, says only 7% of men break into the 7+ category. Thats 1 in 14 young/prime guys.

An 8 is 3%. (1 in 33 young/prime men).

None is a 10, no female, no male. So highest is 9. Jon-Erik Hexum got rated close to a 9 on FaceIQ (some software that measures facial ratios). Teenage Doutzen Kroes for women got rated close to a 9.
 

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This video showed up in my feed. The statistics are interesting. Being a 6-6-6 guy, is extremely rare.
Biggest take away: there's a correlation between being considered conventionally attractive (facial) and being in shape (muscular + low BF), something you can control.
The same applies to women. According to ChatGPT, only about 2-5% of North American women are what most men would consider attractive (i.e. fit body, attractive face, age 18-35).
 

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Wheat Waffles - who's rated 60'000 faces, says only 7% of men break into the 7+ category. Thats 1 in 14 young/prime guys.

An 8 is 3%. (1 in 33 young/prime men).

None is a 10, no female, no male. So highest is 9. Jon-Erik Hexum got rated close to a 9 on FaceIQ (some software that measures facial ratios). Teenage Doutzen Kroes for women got rated close to a 9.
he’s probably pretty ballpark with those stats yeah
I think he rates harshly tho, and his % is lil bit low.

But how can there be no 10/10 for either sex? That’s rediculous. Of course there has to be. Whoever the top models are in the world are the 10s. The trending 10s of that particular era that is. As trends change constantly.

Prime Henry Cavill would be a 10, David Ghandy and lots of other males. Margot Robbie surely would be one for the females. And others. Plus all the female supermodels are 10s. Obvs.

Jon-Erik Hexum is a 10 also imo.
Like. What’s the differentiator from a 9 to a 10 anyway? something super rare , like an unusual eye colour probably…
 
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Google AI summary gives this
Prompt -who is fhe most handsome man in history?

There is no single official or universally agreed-upon most handsome man in the world of all time, as beauty is subjective and varies by era, culture, and personal preference. [1]
However, several iconic figures and scientific metrics frequently top historical and modern lists:

Scientific Facial Proportions (The Golden Ratio)
    • Aaron Taylor-Johnson: Named the most handsome man in recent facial mapping studies using the ancient Greek Golden Ratio of Beauty Phi (scoring 93.04%).
    • Regé-Jean Page: Ranked near or at the top of digital face-mapping studies by cosmetic surgeons with a score of around 93.65%. [1, 2]
    • Robert Pattinson and George Clooney: Frequently cited in scientific face-mapping studies as having near-perfect facial symmetry and structural proportions. [1]

Classic & Historical Icons
    • Alain Delon: Widely hailed across classic cinema and global polls as the benchmark for timeless, natural male beauty.
    • Paul Newman & Marlon Brando: Permanent fixtures on classic Hollywood lists for their defining screen presence, piercing features, and rugged charm.
    • David Beckham: Frequently referenced globally for setting modern standards in style, grooming, and athletic elegance. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
 

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Google AI summary gives this
Prompt -who is fhe most handsome man in history?

There is no single official or universally agreed-upon most handsome man in the world of all time, as beauty is subjective and varies by era, culture, and personal preference. [1]
However, several iconic figures and scientific metrics frequently top historical and modern lists:

Scientific Facial Proportions (The Golden Ratio)
    • Aaron Taylor-Johnson: Named the most handsome man in recent facial mapping studies using the ancient Greek Golden Ratio of Beauty Phi (scoring 93.04%).
    • Regé-Jean Page: Ranked near or at the top of digital face-mapping studies by cosmetic surgeons with a score of around 93.65%. [1, 2]
    • Robert Pattinson and George Clooney: Frequently cited in scientific face-mapping studies as having near-perfect facial symmetry and structural proportions. [1]

Classic & Historical Icons
    • Alain Delon: Widely hailed across classic cinema and global polls as the benchmark for timeless, natural male beauty.
    • Paul Newman & Marlon Brando: Permanent fixtures on classic Hollywood lists for their defining screen presence, piercing features, and rugged charm.
    • David Beckham: Frequently referenced globally for setting modern standards in style, grooming, and athletic elegance. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Your list is way too nepotistic. The average greek warrior or hell the average man from the age of WW2 was far more attractive to women. Women are turned on not just by looks, but by a man who is unapologetically a man. The beauty standards of today is too feminized.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Your list is way too nepotistic. The average greek warrior or hell the average man from the age of WW2 was far more attractive to women. Women are turned on not just by looks, but by a man who is unapologetically a man. The beauty standards of today is too feminized.
Nepotistic?
“the practice of using power or influence to grant jobs, promotions, or unfair advantages to family members”

I am not the father of these men ..lol.
And they did not become sex symbols due to having powerful parents in Hollywood. Their face (and the roles they played) had mass appeal to females. Mainly - their faces.

Your point on being a man has merit - masculinity is very attractive to females.
But don’t be downplaying the most obvious evidence of how high levels of masculinity , high T and alpha traits present .- in handsomeness of a male.

As that’s what ‘Handsome’ means = highly masculine faced/ looking . (lol.)


A very handsome man has oodles of masculinity/masc power /masc energy and projected Alphaness. It is automatically projected onto them .

As it is in his genes and displayed on his face.
In his great bone structure and symmetry. And handsomeness.

Rock Hudson was a massive sex symbol for women back in the day. A personification of masculinity. Many knickers wet wettened at the sight of him.

And he was secretly gay.
James Dean possibly also (afaik )

But I do agree with your point to some degree , and try to project masculinity to women in dating. It is a solid strategy. I don’t think an average guy-to-ugly can ‘outgame his face’ tho and get hot women.

Doesn’t work.

and re your statement in bold re “average Greek warriors and average WW2 era men were far more attractive to women (vs these Hollywood sex symbols) “ .. there is no way to prove that .lol.
Pure speculation and subjective personal opinion that one.
Have you time travelled back and done surveys or something ? :D:p
 
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