The bluepill is making a great comeback...

[Gamisch]

And it makes sense. 90% of men are inherently bluepilled. Even over here. That 90% is too big of a number to NOT make a huge impact on the overall vibe surrounding dating.

90% of men are bluepilled while 65% doesn't play along. But most of them are tired of RP rethoric.

The redpill been popping for a solid decade, but unfortunately the messengers were mostly grifters .The evaluation tells us that the boom is over, and men return to their bytchazz self.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Sticking your fingers in your ears and going LALALA won't necessarily change reality. Men are shocked by the difficulty of dating amd thus prefer more than ever to get " just fecking one" woman who loves him and be done with dating, apps, cold approach ect. While women on the other hand have more options than ever.

The discrepancy is crazy.

 

[CornbreadFed]

The blue pill is just socially more acceptable whether you like it or not. If you want to be successful in any category then you will have to accept a certain amount of blue pill or at least fake it. This is why being purple pilled is more flexible because you get the best of both pills.

 

[Gamisch]

The blue pill is just socially more acceptable whether you like it or not. If you want to be successful in any category then you will have to accept a certain amount of blue pill or at least fake it. This is why being purple pilled is more flexible because you get the best of both pills.

Q00

I work in construction, and the most asked question is : " do you have a wife / gf?"

No way that RP theory gonna stick with those types of men. Even when most of them got horribly played as they work long days to provide and are away from home all the time.

The problem with purple is that it eventually leads back to blue...while red arguably leads to black..

 

[Mike32ct]

Q00

I work in construction, and the most asked question is : " do you have a wife / gf?"

No way that RP theory gonna stick with those types of men. Even when most of them got horribly played as they work long days to provide and are away from home all the time.

The problem with purple is that it eventually leads back to blue...while red arguably leads to black..

There are very few ‘cels in the trades/construction IME. Pill stuff aside, most of those guys seem to land a gf or wife.

I think RP burned itself out. Too many gurus pushing the same stuff at once.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I have a hunch that most men are blue pilled, and most other men are black pilled/MGTOW types who went that way as a cope due to not being able to find any success. I would guess that red pilled or red-pilled adjacent men, who maintain success with women over their whole lifetime, make up less than 10% of the male population, probably around 1-5%.

There are very few ‘cels in the trades/construction IME. Pill stuff aside, most of those guys seem to land a gf or wife.

I think RP burned itself out. Too many gurus pushing the same stuff at once.

He never said they were incels. But they're blue pilled for sure. Most of people of lower IQ or socioeconomic class see getting a wife as the only goal in life. In fact the reason most men are even willing to work such shvt jobs is for women.

Blue pilled men in many respects have an easier time getting GFs or wives since their entire life motto can be summed up as "happy wife happy life". This of course says nothing about the true nature of their relationships and their own happiness, which is a different story.

 

[Mike32ct]

I have a hunch that most men are blue pilled, and most other men are black pilled/MGTOW types who went that way as a cope due to not being able to find any success. I would guess that red pilled or red-pilled adjacent men, who maintain success with women over their whole lifetime, make up less than 10% of the male population, probably around 1-5%.


He never said they were incels. But they're blue pilled for sure. Most of people of lower IQ or socioeconomic class see getting a wife as the only goal in life.

Blue pilled men in many respects have an easier time getting GFs or wives since their entire life motto can be summed up as "happy wife happy life". This of course says nothing about the true nature of their relationships and their own happiness, which is a different story.

Understood. Just an observation.

Agree they are blue pilled.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Probably the only people who are Black Pilled are Incels & some Chads.

 

[Ricky]

I was a PUA and thought i understood women better than most. I saw two of my older brothers cater to every whim of their wives and get treated poorly so largely did the opposite and also avoided the type of women they married.

i did well for years like this… at least an almost 20 year run of success with women that led to a marriage and a child

eventually i ran into marriage issues and of course i got a bunch of i told you so’s from many people.

i dont know if men are getting more blue pilled but they sure seem as desperate as ever to jump through hoops for women which inevitably leads to the womans loss of interest in them. Tale as old as time

i really think at the route of it, humans are variable reward machines. Predictability is boring and they quit playing the Game or dislike you for it. Don’t always get them what they want, keep them guessing and they wont be able to take you for granted

 

[BeExcellent]

Agree with @Ricky on this. Intermittent reinforcement is the psychobabble term.

And it is extremely....like Extremely effective.

People who are mercurial in nature, have dark triad tendencies, or mood dysregulation do this as a byproduct of their essence. A "normal" person does not do this naturally. It is push/pull dynamic executed as a matter of course.

This is why much of the advice you see is to maintain an air of mystery where women are concerned. Problem is not everyone understands the nuance inherent in that directive.

 

[plumber]

Q00

I work in construction, and the most asked question is : " do you have a wife / gf?"

No way that RP theory gonna stick with those types of men. Even when most of them got horribly played as they work long days to provide and are away from home all the time.

The problem with purple is that it eventually leads back to blue...while red arguably leads to black..

white pill. red pill, black pill, blue pill understanding. but with purpose/kindness/responsibility. the one that takes care of the others including the other men. think red pill, that is not selfish.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Most men are terrified to be alone and/or most men are terrified to walk away.

Blue pill wouldn’t exist if men always used the power of walking away. Do what you want. If she’s not aligned with your goals then she has the option to leave.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Agree with @Ricky on this. Intermittent reinforcement is the psychobabble term.

And it is extremely....like Extremely effective.

People who are mercurial in nature, have dark triad tendencies, or mood dysregulation do this as a byproduct of their essence. A "normal" person does not do this naturally. It is push/pull dynamic executed as a matter of course.

This is why much of the advice you see is to maintain an air of mystery where women are concerned. Problem is not everyone understands the nuance inherent in that directive.

Can you expand on this just a touch?

 

[Bokanovsky]

The "blue pill" will never go away completely. It is ultimately a coping mechanism and a way to rationalize one's failure (just like the black pill).

 

[Bokanovsky]

There are very few ‘cels in the trades/construction IME. Pill stuff aside, most of those guys seem to land a gf or wife.

That makes perfect sense if you understand the concept of proximity. These guys have proximity to lower class women and those women need boyfriends and husbands too. A hairdresser or truck stop waitress is not going to be dating a hedge fund manager or Wall Street lawyer. And since most women are lower or middle class, it makes sense that they would typically be dating men of similar socio-economic background.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Q00

I work in construction, and the most asked question is : " do you have a wife / gf?"

At my company, you aren't considered for any serious positions unless you have a wife and kids.

 

[Mike32ct]

That makes perfect sense if you understand the concept of proximity. These guys have proximity to lower class women and those women need boyfriends and husbands too. A hairdresser or truck stop waitress is not going to be dating a hedge fund manager or Wall Street lawyer. And since most women are lower or middle class, it makes sense that they would typically be dating men of similar socio-economic background.

My boomer buddy was trying to tell me that, as an engineer, I might have an easier time picking up a hairdresser. (I have zero interest in hairdressers. It was just a hypothetical.) I explained that the hairdressers I knew were dating blue collar guys like HVAC, electricians and delivery drivers.

At my company, you aren't considered for any serious positions unless you have a wife and kids.

For higher positions, that makes sense.

For entry or mid level, a lot of companies like a single, no kids guy because he is easier to take advantage of workload-wise and might need less time off.

 

[Gamisch]

At my company, you aren't considered for any serious positions unless you have a wife and kids.

In my native language we have a saying that goes something like " he who pays makes the decisions ".

Other than that it might have something to do with the "assumption " that a man who is occupied is less likely to start a relationship with a coworker.

But mostly it's about image. I'm kinda baffled to see how most men I know make a fecking U turn back into the blue pill , even and especially after having literally zero positive experiences with women.

There's this idea that a man " is grown" when he gets barked at by a random stranger with a v-gg who bosses him around.

Eventually the man in question will base his image om this type of woman. Most men I know seem to do this to please their parents, family members, to lost on the Gram ect. Everything except their own happiness...crazy work.

 

[Gamisch]

There are very few ‘cels in the trades/construction IME. Pill stuff aside, most of those guys seem to land a gf or wife.

I think RP burned itself out. Too many gurus pushing the same stuff at once.

That's the tricky part about it.

Yes ,there are very very few cells BUT these man are as bluepilled as it gets . And as I mentioned before ,I've heard TONS of stories about their women cheating on them. You know, the standard " slept with the neighbour " type of cheating. That same neighbour that git invited during barbecues and birthday parties.

I'd even say that especially blue collars are prone to hid the truth just to hold up that " picture perfect image ".

Women will be women regardless of your social status ,and although a blue collar can provide ,he will mostly be low status and lack the understanding of the gane on a deeper level. Most of these men think the game ended when he ; started the ltr, cohabitation, kids, marriage ect. Little they know that's when the gane just getting started..

 

[Opportunity]

i work in finance

 

[Gamisch]

I have a hunch that most men are blue pilled, and most other men are black pilled/MGTOW types who went that way as a cope due to not being able to find any success. I would guess that red pilled or red-pilled adjacent men, who maintain success with women over their whole lifetime, make up less than 10% of the male population, probably around 1-5%.


He never said they were incels. But they're blue pilled for sure. Most of people of lower IQ or socioeconomic class see getting a wife as the only goal in life. In fact the reason most men are even willing to work such shvt jobs is for women.

Blue pilled men in many respects have an easier time getting GFs or wives since their entire life motto can be summed up as "happy wife happy life". This of course says nothing about the true nature of their relationships and their own happiness, which is a different story.

Perfect description. Spot on! A lot of women categorically order different types of men. There will ALWAYS be room for a provider..a good guy Greg who shuts the F up and believes that happy wife happy life is the way to go.

One former homeboy NEVER wanted to work and grind while piling up debts UNTIL he needed a visa for his Pina LDR. Suddenly he " grew up" and started working like a normal person, while REMAINING broke , as he now suddenly needs to be " a normal western white man". Cool, but you can't hide from your past and your previous decision making...

My biggest issue is that he robs himself from great experiences which are focused on HIMSELF. He wasted like 20 years being an incel lite( as in slept with a handful of women now and then) and now straight up moves to ALL IN without having significant experience with women. If this fails he will be doomed.

He never experienced the new version of himself in the game. His self image is based on him being broke and " unattractive " while I kept saying: bro, imagine you working grinding ,fixing your shyte ,saving money ,bossing up, hitting the gym and NOW you re-enter the game with a fresh mindset, instead of skipping that part and wasting this time energy and money on a woman who might or might not be while you thinks she is.."