"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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GoodMan32

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Why did you hire an obese escort? If you gonna do the escort thing, at least hire an 18 year old who is a 10
I like all different types of woman. This one was a thick Latina with a large backside. I've also been with petite blondes. Again, I like variety.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Talking out of their azz because they say to date an HB1? Dude, you are at the bottom of the barrel. You are not far off from an HB1. You can not expect great things. You live with your parents, your job status has been questionable, your house is a mess, you aren't in good shape. These are enormous turn offs to women.

Here's the point you are missing...

So you went out with one girl that was an HB1 fattie. She turned out to be schizo. Ok, so what. Find another one that isn't a schizo. Did you do that??? I bet you didn't. You stopped right there.

Use these interactions as opportunities to better understand women and yourself. Learn to improve your game. Start improving the basics that I mentioned above so maybe HB3's or HB4's will go out with you.

Talk about entitlement.
I have posted enough info about myself and my past that for you to write that crap is just an insult at this point. On ignore.
 

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It shouldn't be too difficult to find an obese woman with low enough standards to let him fvck for free.
I've been with fatties for free in my younger days.

Then, interestingly, the last woman I banged for free (back in 2021) was beautiful and tiny (ok, maybe she could have lost 5 pounds, but that's not exactly a fattie). Yet there are obese escorts who can get men to pay for sex. The sex marketplace has no rhyme or reason.

One thing about the obese escort I mentioned, she's at least good-looking facially. In fact, when I was heading to my place with the obese escort, a male neighbor made it obvious he was into her. Then the escort texted me after the session to say she crossed paths with the same neighbor on the way out of my building...he couldn't take his eyes off her.
 

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I have posted enough info about myself and my past that for you to write that crap is just an insult at this point. On ignore.
I didn't make the stuff up, you provided the information. I just provided some context.

Get mad because someone told you what you needed to hear and you didn't like it. BooHoo.

You've put me on ignore before, is that how you handle things you don't like?

If you aren't here to learn and improve or help others, why are you here?
 

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I've been with fatties for free in my younger days.

Then, interestingly, the last woman I banged for free (back in 2021) was beautiful and tiny (ok, maybe she could have lost 5 pounds, but that's not exactly a fattie). Yet there are obese escorts who can get men to pay for sex. The sex marketplace has no rhyme or reason.

One thing about the obese escort I mentioned, she's at least good-looking facially. In fact, when I was heading to my place with the obese escort, a male neighbor made it obvious he was into her. Then the escort texted me after the session to say she crossed paths with the same neighbor on the way out of my building...he couldn't take his eyes off her.
I also think there is an assumption that you would get more of a passionate session or it would process better mentally (ie at least you feel you could do better) and makes it feel more of a nice arrangement rather than feeling you are a gross old guy taking advantage or cheating with someone you could not realistically get as a civvie.

Also allot of fat women know that you are going after them because you have lucked out with better looking women and may insist you get into commitment when with an obese escort, there is no such dynamic and you just have fun. If it feels more realistic and hot then I can see why it makes sense. Esp if you are a black guy who likes PAWG type girls who tend not to be discriminatory on their ads.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I also think there is an assumption that you would get more of a passionate session or it would process better mentally (ie at least you feel you could do better) and makes it feel more of a nice arrangement rather than feeling you are a gross old guy taking advantage or cheating with someone you could not realistically get as a civvie.

Also allot of fat women know that you are going after them because you have lucked out with better looking women and may insist you get into commitment when with an obese escort, there is no such dynamic and you just have fun. If it feels more realistic and hot then I can see why it makes sense. Esp if you are a black guy who likes PAWG type girls who tend not to be discriminatory on their ads.
Contrary to stereotype, some white men are into thick women too (myself included).

Then the neighbor of mine who was into my thick Latina escort was a white man, probably in his 30s, with good looks and an athletic build (he works out in my building's gym). In other words, he's the last guy you'd expect to go for a fattie.

Obviously he wasn't aware she was an escort. Would he be willing to pay her for sex? Maybe, maybe not (I'm leaning toward probably not). But he'd clearly be down for some free sex with her.
 

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Contrary to stereotype, some white men are into thick women too (myself included).

Then the neighbor of mine who was into my thick Latina escort was a white man, probably in his 30s, with good looks and an athletic build (he works out in my building's gym). In other words, he's the last guy you'd expect to go for a fattie.

Obviously he wasn't aware she was an escort. Would he be willing to pay her for sex? Maybe, maybe not (I'm leaning toward probably not). But he'd clearly be down for some free sex with her.
Some fat women have a sensual and sexual vibe about them, just like prudish women have a different vibe. Its like the difference of looking at nude women in porn/escort ads or from a health journal. Maybe he is catching her vibe as well as she is seeing lots of guys who like her enough to part with their money for a fleeting moment with her.
 

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Some fat women have a sensual and sexual vibe about them, just like prudish women have a different vibe. Its like the difference of looking at nude women in porn/escort ads or from a health journal. Maybe he is catching her vibe as well as she is seeing lots of guys who like her enough to part with their money for a fleeting moment with her.
Plus a lot of white men (at least where I live) fetishize Latinas. It's possible my neighbor fetishized her.

I used to fetishize Latinas myself. Then I realized how cringeworthy I was acting. I currently admire, but don't fetishize, Latinas.

In one of her tweets, she pretty much mentioned what you said...that she's sensual. She says guys are willing to pay more to be with her for this reason.
 

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So had anyone seen the movies Pretty Woman or Moulin Rouge? These are about guys who won the prostitute and sucessfully seduced them. @GoodMan32, has explained how escorts gave him the confidence to pursue civvies by giving him an abundance mindet.

We really believe in abundance or not?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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So had anyone seen the movies Pretty Woman or Moulin Rouge? These are about guys who won the prostitute and sucessfully seduced them. @GoodMan32, has explained how escorts gave him the confidence to pursue civvies by giving him an abundance mindet.

We really believe in abundance or not?
Dude, are you really that delusional?

1. its fiction
2. you are not Ewan Mcgregor or Richard Gere
 

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Pretty Woman has a nonsense premise.

There is no such thing as seducing a hooker. You are paying to avoid the seduction process and get straight to sex. If someone is incredibly inexperienced with women, a pro may help him get out of his shell. Otherwise, its just a human sex doll rental. Which is fine if you choose to partake but it is outside the realm of seduction.
 

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There is no such thing as seducing a hooker.
I politely disagree. It can happen when they are "off the clock" and the guy doesnt know she is a hooker. Lots of hookers have a double life, some of them are in ltr where the guy has no idea of her real job.



@corrector I think you can sometimes have some good points somewhere in there. But 99% of members who use the term "wh0re monger" and/ or those members who have "never paid" for sex will never see it or admit it. I think you and @GoodMan32 should be free to enjoy your discussion but replying to those members I´ve mentioned seems like a waste of time.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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So had anyone seen the movies Pretty Woman or Moulin Rouge? These are about guys who won the prostitute and sucessfully seduced them. @GoodMan32, has explained how escorts gave him the confidence to pursue civvies by giving him an abundance mindet.

We really believe in abundance or not?
At this point. Mods. Can we change the name of this site to Very Visa? Wh*remongers have taken it over and instead of game, self-improvement…. All you need is a valid credit card to get women.
 

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I politely disagree. It can happen when they are "off the clock" and the guy doesnt know she is a hooker. Lots of hookers have a double life, some of them are in ltr where the guy has no idea of her real job.



@corrector I think you can sometimes have some good points somewhere in there. But 99% of members who use the term "wh0re monger" and/ or those members who have "never paid" for sex will never see it or admit it. I think you and @GoodMan32 should be free to enjoy your discussion but replying to those members I´ve mentioned seems like a waste of time.
Enjoy your discussion in Anything Else. Not in Don Juan.
 

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That doesn't make me less shocked. You have been very vocal against this. Calling escorts a fringe type of women or that these types of topics don't belong on this section. If something is that far beneath you then there wouldn't be any possible scenario or situation where you would use one or picture using one.

I guess you are not as strongly against them as you've made yourself out to be then.
It's nothing to do with being 'beneath me'. Escorts ARE fringe women. 99% of women are NOT escorts. Even if I suddenly decided to spend all my money on hookers and blow, doesn't mean this conversation should be in Don Juan. Buying a hooker has nothing to do with Don Juan. That is: Meeting, Dating or Attacting women. The only corner case would be if someone was interested in dating a sex worker. Full disclosure. I dated a girl who later became a stripper. But honestly, probably not that relevent.
 

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Are you men truly so delusional? It is like you all live in a fantastical realm like you're billionaire movie stars or something. Nothing which you speak of actually occurs in real life and it certainly does not occur to you.

I can see the next troll thread "I discovered my GF of 3 years is secretly a hooker, what should I do?"

I politely disagree. It can happen when they are "off the clock" and the guy doesnt know she is a hooker. Lots of hookers have a double life, some of them are in ltr where the guy has no idea of her real job.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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