"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Penetrating females within a group which has blackballed you?

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Hi. There is this group several thousand strong that has a few members staunchly against me due to being a "player" 15 yrs ago. I know someone here must have had a similar situation and was able to achieve penetration into a group which had some members that were consistently politicing against you?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Hi. There is this group several thousand strong that has a few members staunchly against me due to being a "player" 15 yrs ago. I know someone here must have had a similar situation and was able to achieve penetration into a group which had some members that were consistently politicing against you?
More detail needed imo
A group several thousand strong? A few people cant have that much of an effect no?

What i would do is try and make friend with a ppl from grouo that will help me.
 

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telling us a little more is a must if you want to ask anything, I can hardly figure what you even mean
 

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More detail needed imo
A group several thousand strong? A few people cant have that much of an effect no?

What i would do is try and make friend with a ppl from grouo that will help me.
Sorority. Two of the outspoken ones werent liking me and got a group in there with the same sentiment.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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What’s the setting of this group? Social, professional, online?
 

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Sorority. Two of the outspoken ones werent liking me and got a group in there with the same sentiment.
Ahh, sorority women; they’re the worst. Super culty, and group-think mentality, which is probably how you ended up in the position you’re in. My advice: don’t try to date them, ever. Usually fun and a good lay, but often are boring as all heck and are very superficial/materialistic and place value on possessions rather than personalities.

The above is a massive stereotype, and many of them are fantastic women. The ones who are all group-thinky and who don’t have the “balls” to think for themselves are the ones to avoid, and there’s a lot of them.
 

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Sorority. Two of the outspoken ones werent liking me and got a group in there with the same sentiment.
That type of group doesn’t view you as good future marriage and economic advancement material for the girl you were seeing, therefore you’re out for all of them. Don’t know about recent years, but as of 20 years ago, that’s what big school sororities were all about regarding dating…
What school are you referring to ? The elitist factor varies by location.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Sounds like you've been out of school for around 15 years. Are you really still encountering so many of these women that it's still an issue? How does that work?
 

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Sounds like you've been out of school for around 15 years. Are you really still encountering so many of these women that it's still an issue? How does that work?
Feminism allows these groups and sub groups to communicate. Their intent is to control men and to obtain resources. The women position themselves as "bosses" and "wardens" . In any case i need to find women outside of these zones.
 

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You must have made quite an impression if they're still affecting your adult life 15 years later.
 

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You must have made quite an impression if they're still affecting your adult life 15 years later.
I was a loving "good man" who had a weakness that i could cheat after 3-5 yrs. Theyd prefer a straiggt up all tbe time cheater vs a good guy who could cheat after some time. Anyway that group and subgroups stonewall, lie, spy and make things harder for me in general. Its motivated me to elevate. Stop complaining cause they had me hurt badly for some years. Focus on what im doing and be more responsible vetting women. I will no longer make excuses for others. And i dont plan on pursuing women strongly ever again. Deal with the ones who are coming for me.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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LOL it could be that these chicks saw you as a bad ass in their 20s and now they see you as a "player", because they're past that zlut phase and looking for something stable...
 

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LOL it could be that these chicks saw you as a bad ass in their 20s and now they see you as a "player", because they're past that zlut phase and looking for something stable...
Many never change your lqbel.
 

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This story doesn't add up.
Im just figuring thats what it is. I didnt get a PI to infiltrate them and get all the facts. Im going by what ive observed externally. There have been many feedbacks to indicate communication and collusion is going down.
 

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Ahh, sorority women; they’re the worst. Super culty, and group-think mentality, which is probably how you ended up in the position you’re in. My advice: don’t try to date them, ever. Usually fun and a good lay, but often are boring as all heck and are very superficial/materialistic and place value on possessions rather than personalities.

The above is a massive stereotype, and many of them are fantastic women. The ones who are all group-thinky and who don’t have the “balls” to think for themselves are the ones to avoid, and there’s a lot of them.
Rationalizations from guys who can't date sorority girls. "Pfft, ferraris get bad gas mileage. Love my ford pinto!"
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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