You know dam well the only thing that will resolve the discord in her mind is him doing all the changing. Why waste time on such nonsense. It's like falling down a rabbit hole, trying to get into a woman's mind and make it make sense.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
You run the risk of insanity trying to do that.
lamath
Master Don Juan
That is exactly why i think i got no choice.
Most of our fights are mostly her getting mad at me for stupid stuff and me getting madder because she is mad at me for stupid stuff and thats the only time i get her mad at her.
You would think that after 11y she would stop that non sense.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
She wants to "win"
The true red piller's r magnanimous, we leave the above 30, fatties, fugly's, single mom's to the rest of mankind
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
OP, marriage takes a lot of work.
I'm always of the view that men should take the lead and accept responsibility when a marriage breaks down then does his best to try to salvage what's left of it.
It's only workable when the wife is not a cheater.
Find ways to keep the family intact.
It starts by not blaming the wife and taking the lead towards creating a more harmonious family environment, then gradually lead the wife to join you in some diet and exercise program. The family that plays together sticks together.
I'm always of the view that men should take the lead and accept responsibility when a marriage breaks down then does his best to try to salvage what's left of it.
It's only workable when the wife is not a cheater.
Find ways to keep the family intact.
It starts by not blaming the wife and taking the lead towards creating a more harmonious family environment, then gradually lead the wife to join you in some diet and exercise program. The family that plays together sticks together.
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AttackFormation
Master Don Juan
Women do this when they resent you/their life but are too complacent to change, and also when they consciously or not want to provoke you to make the first move for them.
lamath
Master Don Juan
Im at a point that i dont enjoy doing anything with her and i dont want to do anything with her. i think she resents me for it.
But what can i say the only thing she likes to do is shopping and dinning out to me thats boring af.
Overall i feel that she is a boring person that is too often in a bad mood and i always have to walk around egg shell around her.
However i know i got to take some blame also, i am not an attentive person, everytime she tells me something i get defensive(prob conditioning over the years), i am not helping much around the house and i cba to make any effort towards her
lamath
Master Don Juan
Nailed it!
That constant resentment because of my ambivalence towards her is prob our main problem.
Also im always the one at fault and the one who needs the compromise, never admits wrong doing
Time for me to stop taking the easy road, i have been way too easy going and agreeable.
I feel like i have way higher SMV than her and still get no credit or appreciation.
If she's loyal as a wife then she deserves to be led into a more productive life.
Being the husband, you automatically assume the leadership role towards her and to ur kids.
If u r not leading them, then everything will unravel.
Call it quits after trying for 6 months. Plan it out, assign no blame but be firm and assertive in ur leadership as a husband. They'll toe the line once they realised that u r assuming the leader role in all seriousness.
After doing so, if you still feel the same then by all means divorce ur wife.
Being the husband, you automatically assume the leadership role towards her and to ur kids.
If u r not leading them, then everything will unravel.
Call it quits after trying for 6 months. Plan it out, assign no blame but be firm and assertive in ur leadership as a husband. They'll toe the line once they realised that u r assuming the leader role in all seriousness.
After doing so, if you still feel the same then by all means divorce ur wife.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Spitful homewreckers with a history of doing it. You'll be seen as lower than dogsh!t if you jump ship to one, even if your wife eventually concedes you were mad for staying as long as you did.
lamath
Master Don Juan
This i think is a good advice, but what i fear is trying for an other 6 month is just gonna be me doing all the compromise.
She never admits her fault and cant take any constructive criticism.
For example:
She nags me for about 1 year asking me why im not much into sex with her, telling me i should go see a doctor because its not normal. I know what the problem is and i try avoid telling her because i know its gonna hurt her.
Finally after being told i have a medical problem i tell her that she let herself go ( she had gain idk maybe 75 lbs and thats before the kids)
After that instead of trying to improve herself, she shuts down, cry for a week and become really cold towards me.
She nagged me for a year and not in a gentle way and now im the *******!!
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
After they wreck your home theyll wreck the rest of your life. Its what they do. The lesson is to be more careful, to have self worth and stop doing stupid things many men do.
lamath
Master Don Juan
Glad i never did the deed, had many opportunity but stopped it before it got there.
However after 1y+ without sex ( her fault not mine) i think id be justify.
I have now stop trying to get it.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Im somewhat religious but worldly enough to know cheating on your spouse if youve been STARVED for a long time is a good interim process to follow before bailing. Often when your spouse sees the world wants you they will too. Also if they are cheating and you do it back to meet your needs they know u will take care of u if they put out or not so it diminish power they have over you by holding out or cheating.
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Shesahomewrecker.com
Interesting site, many of the stories, other woman descriptions, and character revelations are posted by spurned wives and it definitely reveals their current attitude and revenge driven mindset…
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DEEZEDBRAH
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Your being "unavailable" is attractive. Art of seduction 101. Coupled with the fact that, men like myself, old enough to be considered mature and at thirty, able to deem oneself as young.
Women meet enough "commitment phobia" characters like myself who won't marry, won't do a LTR, no cohabitation, and no meetings with family or friends.
You are married, with kids, provider male which in this world and given female logic and retardation, is a stupid move. Thus far, you aren't divorced raped. Not yet.
It portrays a man who plays by the rules or do you women think.
Regardless of sex appeal, top form SMV, I want to beat the brakes off and repeat more then once. Then, next set.
Women want what they cannot have. It's not shocking good sir.
Play these skanks off. Let wife know, you got options. Not in the mood means, dome other girl is.
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If you stay and continue as is, it’s only a matter of time before BOTH of you cheat. Because BOTH of you are not fulfilling the sexual and emotional needs of the other person. You said she won’t have sex but you also admit that you don’t want to have sex with her because she let herself go so it’s not one sided here.
What seems like a mess now will be a mountain of crap for you, your wife and your kids to have to wade through if you and your wife let this fester until one of you is caught cheating.
From what you are saying, it sounds like both of you have checked out and are hurting each other, her by blaming you for everything and you by being distant. Honestly your kids are going to pick on the negativity if they haven’t already.
If you stay and continue as is, it’s only a matter of time before BOTH of you cheat. Because BOTH of you are not fulfilling the sexual and emotional needs of the other person. You said she won’t have sex but you also admit that you don’t want to have sex with her because she let herself go so it’s not one sided here.
What seems like a mess now will be a mountain of crap for you, your wife and your kids to have to wade through if you and your wife let this fester until one of you is caught cheating.
lamath
Master Don Juan
Good advice and i know its not 1 sided
Kids are indeed picking up the bad vibe
Yep, when mommy and daddy fight enough times they’re going to catch up on the Southbound drift…
Then before you know it everything starts going to hell in a handbasket for Everyone involved.
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.