Why women tend to gravitate to narcistic douchebags?

[mrgoodstuff]

Yeah I’m good with that AJ. goodstuff and I were taking it to another level we have been dancing around for a while. There’s a male type and female type that are the scariest of the scariest.
A woman sleeps with whomever she feels the desire for. And in some cases identifies with.
There are other things....

She wants to be like him or get stronger in some of his qualities. Shes like a minnie me version. Being mentored.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I think I sat down with one for a meet and greet on Friday. I’m glad I had another one this morning to clear my head. She was nice and soft on the internal workings of a man”s mind. Shes still stepping out on someone but I can deal with their duality. It’s pretty normal.
It’s the sinister vibe that throws me off. It feels kinda like a mortal enemy even though there’s amiability and normalcy on the surface.

So this one is stepping out on her guy. Probably a supportive man that loves her. She has an ego or interface for these meet and greets, where she draws in new guys. "Wallets", "security", "connections", "fun", "etc" constantly adding to her card deck.

 

[Ranger]

So this one is stepping out on her guy. Probably a supportive man that loves her. She has an ego or interface for these meet and greets, where she draws in new guys. "Wallets", "security", "connections", "fun", "etc" constantly adding to her card deck.

Most likely. She texted me tonight from work and says she wants to give it a go with me. I think she’s looking forward to getting fukked by me.
I don’t do the girlfriend thing. She’s going to end up a plate and knows it. I think that’s what she wants. She says she’s never going to leave her marriage. But take those things with a grain of salt.

 

[Ranger]

It was the Friday one that was more of a concern for me. During the conversation, it was just a subtle change that came over her. She hid it well but I felt it and it had a slow ground gaining effect on me. Nothing I can put a finger on. It’s like standing over a prisoner with my M4 and feeling the resentment coming off of him despite him keeping his head down.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Most likely. She texted me tonight from work and says she wants to give it a go with me. I think she’s looking forward to getting fukked by me.
I don’t do the girlfriend thing. She’s going to end up a plate and knows it. I think that’s what she wants. She says she’s never going to leave her marriage. But take those things with a grain of salt.

What are you going to provide other than dyck?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It was the Friday one that was more of a concern for me. During the conversation, it was just a subtle change that came over her. She hid it well but I felt it and it had a slow ground gaining effect on me. Nothing I can put a finger on. It’s like standing over a prisoner with my M4 and feeling the resentment coming off of him despite him keeping his head down.

She normally gets control one way or another.

 

[Mike32ct]

As far as nice guys. I dont think all are manipulative. Many are just stupid and dont understand people.

I totally get what AJ is saying, but I've got to agree with mrgoodstuff here.

I'll try to explain the "nice guy" thing a bit more.

1. At first, plenty of nice guys genuinely believe that they are doing the "right thing." They see loud, arrogant jerks being seemingly "disrespectful" of women, and decide to do the opposite. At first, the nice guy really wants to be the gentlemen and be "better" than the jerk.

2. But the nice guy might well be shy/timid/inexperienced, so he plays a more "passive" game* than the jerk. He's very indirect about his intentions and thinks playing a slow, "long game" of being her friend first will work. He somehow believes that being "friends first" will lead to a relationship or at least FWB sex.

3. When he loses the girl, or gets firmly friendzoned, or much worse, finds out that she is sleeping with some jerk, he is obviously not happy about that. Then he thinks of her as a bytch as a sort of defense mechanism. (Or sour grapes or being "butthurt" or call it what you will.)

*The nice guy isn't totally stupid. He's also playing a slow, passive game on purpose because (consciously or unconsciously) he KNOWS that he isn't good looking enough to be direct with women. If he goes direct like the jerk guy, the nice guy is going to be shut down hard or called a creep. So he plays a passive, low-risk, low-stakes game, which isn't too effective either.

 

[Ranger]

) he KNOWS that he isn't good looking enough to be direct with women. If he goes direct like the jerk guy, the nice guy is going to be shut down hard or called a creep. So he plays a passive, low-risk, low-stakes game, which isn't too effective either.

Which is exactly what he needs to do to get good with them. Be direct. Take his lumps until they change him Into a beast. He realizes they are just kids in a playing field of stupid boys.

 

[Mike32ct]

Which is exactly what he needs to do to get good with them. Be direct. Take his lumps until they change him Into a beast. He realizes they are just kids in a playing field of stupid boys.

Well said. Hit the nail on the head.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Which is exactly what he needs to do to get good with them. Be direct. Take his lumps until they change him Into a beast. He realizes they are just kids in a playing field of stupid boys.

Nice guy makes critical mistake of thinking hes going to treat her better than her normal choice of guy. But what he doesnt have enough self worth to realize no one deserves that treatment unless they earn it. Hes also dumb for inflating the womans value based upon her appearance. Where the "jerks" she normally deals with know shes a two faced back stabbing ho3 and they dont trust her and dont even like her. Nice guys are unaware of how people really are.

Thus they get used as a chump or simp by worldly women.

 

[Spaz]

Not bad @mrgoodstuff , not bad at all.

 

[Ranger]

always enjoy the nice guy conspiracy theory women invent in order to justify chasing asshol3s haha. Maybe 1 out of 10 nice guys are like that (verbally abusive)but the fact is you are looking for an excuse. Sort of like the incel obsession, "see, I was right all along to date NPD players!" Lol. The women that were self-calibrated and choose wisely never talk about this...wonder why.

Lol

 

[Spaz]

Female perspective:

I don’t think it’s narcissistic jerks that we are attracted to.

Men who are not afraid to have boundaries and express what they want from her are more attractive to us than some guy playing the ‘nice guy‘ card. I put that in italics because the ‘nice guy’ isn’t really that nice, he’s just playing nice to get sex which most women see right through. These are the guys who then do a 180 and turn into pigs when they don’t get what they want after being so ‘nice’ to us. Tale as old as time. All of my female friends have a story. I literally had a guy text me that I was a cold bit*h after a few dates. Why? Because I didn’t want to blow him in his car after he took me on a surprise date to an art show that I had told him in a precious text that I was interested in. 180 degree turn. A random woman paid for my Tim Horton’s coffee when that was a thing a few years ago. Was I supposed to go down on her as a thank you?

Anyway. A guy doesn’t have to be a douchbag to have and express boundaries, their needs and wants to a girl. A charming, positive non bitter man who genuinely likes and is decent to women can be with this way without being narcissistic or an ahole.

When a guy has standards and values and stands up for them because that’s who he really is, that’s attractive. When a guy acts Iike he has standards and values because women are evil and need to be managed in some way, that’s not attractive to women with value who see right through that sh*t anyway.

Of course, there are women who will consistently date actual douchbags, but people tend to consistently attract what they themselves are, and women who always date jerks tend to be jerks in some way themselves, just like sluts always date the male version of themselves and cheaters will always date other cheaters and vapid people date other vapid people and so on....

My advice 2 any women, be extra vigilant with Mr. Nice guy.

Especially those that dress as one, act as one and project themselves as one.

I myself am wary of those little goody 2 shoes....greedy little motherfvckers who'd sell their own mother if the right incentives is provided.

With the @sshole, I know what I'm dealing with and he in return knows the same.

 

[Ranger]

Hes also dumb for inflating the womans value based upon her appearance. Where the "jerks" she normally deals with know shes a two faced back stabbing ho3 and they dont trust her and dont even like her.

This is bad a$$.
You left out solipsistic and utterly void of real compassion beyond kids and puppies. Lol

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Why is it that many women tend to fancy guys who are very high on the narcissism scale?

Why are do few women in stem? Patriarchy lol rape culture?

Its a lack of free thinking.

Women go full retard. Are being cheered off the cliff by society, by feminism, by her own stupidity.

It is women wanting their cake and eat it too.

She gets the spike of emotions by alphas during top form SMV.

She gets her victimhood once SMV craters and Playboy stops calling.


The real question is, why do you care? Its female logic. The war chest of the state is unleashed once her best years are over. Alpha gets the butt. You get to be workhorse.

Spin plates. Smash or next her. Repeat.

 

[Mike32ct]

always enjoy the nice guy conspiracy theory women invent in order to justify chasing asshol3s haha. Maybe 1 out of 10 nice guys are like that (verbally abusive)but the fact is you are looking for an excuse. Sort of like the incel obsession, "see, I was right all along to date NPD players!" Lol. The women that were self-calibrated and choose wisely never talk about this...wonder why.

I wasn't going to go there, but I agree. Some of these complaints about nice guys apply to the jerk too.

1. The nice guys secretly wants to get in her pants. And the jerk doesn't lol?

2. The nice guy will call her a bytch if she doesn't put out. And jerks NEVER badmouth a woman who rejects him, right lol?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

always enjoy the nice guy conspiracy theory women invent in order to justify chasing asshol3s haha. Maybe 1 out of 10 nice guys are like that (verbally abusive)but the fact is you are looking for an excuse. Sort of like the incel obsession, "see, I was right all along to date NPD players!" Lol. The women that were self-calibrated and choose wisely never talk about this...wonder why.

The excuse is to validate why they continue to pursue men that dont even like them. It also validates them for treating the nice guy well beneath his worth or terribly. She takes out the treatment of her by her "jerk", who doesnt even want her on the nice guy. Instead of taking responsibility and admitting they have terrible choices in men they twisted it up that nice guys are conniving and manipulative.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

This is bad a$$.
You left out solipsistic and utterly void of real compassion beyond kids and puppies. Lol

Barely kids though. Puppies make them feel a little human.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

My advice 2 any women, be extra vigilant with Mr. Nice guy.

Especially those that dress as one, act as one and project themselves as one.

I myself am wary of those little goody 2 shoes....greedy little motherfvckers who'd sell their own mother if the right incentives is provided.

With the @sshole, I know what I'm dealing with and he in return knows the same.

The very worst asshol3 actively HATES her. He tolerates her for sex and done with her until the next time. She couldnt count on him to give even a dollar for gas. Most nice guys really are just chumps. Not understanding the world and many peoples predatory behavior.

 

[Spaz]

The very worst asshol3 actively HATES her. He tolerates her for sex and done with her until the next time. She couldnt count on him to give even a dollar for gas. Most nice guys really are just chumps. Not understanding the world and many peoples predatory behavior.

I don't actively hate women on the contary I enjoy women tremendously but you're right abt 1 thing. No women can't count on me to give her even $1 for gas.

As 4 Mr. Goody 2 shoes, all the goodness is all an act to get what they actually desire. It's all a ruse 2 worm their way into favorable situations. Reminds me of politicians.

But its all an act. In the end it always is.