"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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How to use social circle game to meet and get hot girls? How to even find such social circles?

Erik VL

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Learn to read too. I said social circle game works and high value men use it all the time. I use it too. But if its the only way for a guy to get laid, he is low VALUE.
Um, no. What you said was: "Social circle game is for low VALUE men." Now you say it is also for high value men. You have qualified your first statement in so many ways that it becomes meaningless.

Social circle game is not "for low value men". It is for everyone.

But now you go, "Nooo, I didn't say it was ONLY for low value men!" But that's the meaning of saying "it is for X". That means "it isn't for Y", or you would have said so. Stop trying to lawyer your way out of your own very clear statement.

Usually, the lower a man's value, the smaller his social circle. So that the lowest have to rely on entirely on cold opens. Whereas those with higher value usually have larger social circles and rely more on them. So reality is actually the opposite of what you said.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Um, no. What you said was: "Social circle game is for low VALUE men." Now you say it is also for high value men. You have qualified your first statement in so many ways that it becomes meaningless.

Social circle game is not "for low value men". It is for everyone.

But now you go, "Nooo, I didn't say it was ONLY for low value men!" But that's the meaning of saying "it is for X". That means "it isn't for Y", or you would have said so. Stop trying to lawyer your way out of your own very clear statement.

Usually, the lower a man's value, the smaller his social circle. So that the lowest have to rely on entirely on cold opens. Whereas those with higher value usually have larger social circles and rely more on them. So reality is actually the opposite of what you said.
The guy clearly doesn't know what he's talking about
 

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Um, no. What you said was: "Social circle game is for low VALUE men." Now you say it is also for high value men. You have qualified your first statement in so many ways that it becomes meaningless.

Social circle game is not "for low value men". It is for everyone.

But now you go, "Nooo, I didn't say it was ONLY for low value men!" But that's the meaning of saying "it is for X". That means "it isn't for Y", or you would have said so. Stop trying to lawyer your way out of your own very clear statement.

Usually, the lower a man's value, the smaller his social circle. So that the lowest have to rely on entirely on cold opens. Whereas those with higher value usually have larger social circles and rely more on them. So reality is actually the opposite of what you said.
I said social circle game is for low value men.. yes. Keep CONTEXT in mind.

The CONTEXT I was using was to say depending ONLY on social circle game is for LOW VALUE men.
 
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Maybe but it's circular. OPs point was always that it was for men that are not tall, rich, good looking etc. This is most men. The highest value man gets cold approached in broad daylight...would you say cold approaching is only for low value men too?
So what if I suddenly become rich? What changes?

I would have to tell people somehow.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Maybe but it's circular. OPs point was always that it was for men that are not tall, rich, good looking etc. This is most men. The highest value man gets cold approached in broad daylight...would you say cold approaching first is only for low value men too?
Limiting yourself in any way is for low value men.

I do everything. Cold approach, dating apps, social circle, happy hours, social sports, etc. There is really no setting in which you cannot meet women unless you have no clue.
 

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Based on your petty and silly arguing on this forum.. you have no status at all and are nothing close to high VALUE.

You are also wrong. A high VALUE man does whatever works for him because he has the freedom of choice.
Save that gibberish for a garbage motivational post, you stick to the internet because most of us here live in the real world where efficiency is valued.

Even losers can pull women without social circle game lol. Total LOSERS! If you need social circle game you are very low on the food chain.
If it is SO GOOD that even LOSERS can get action from it? Then by ALL MEANS we need to have that discussion right now.

Whatever you do, don't start a business, you're the kind of guy who will do something that can be done for a low cost and try to do at a high cost to prove how wealthy he is.

If you want to cold approach 1000s of women and get rejected 999 times (which would be the case for you), do it but don't try to stop us from finding better ways which are too lazy, incompetent, and likely unworthy to try out yourself.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Save that gibberish for a garbage motivational post, you stick to the internet because most of us here live in the real world where efficiency is valued.

If it is SO GOOD that even LOSERS can get action from it? Then by ALL MEANS we need to have that discussion right now.

Whatever you do, don't start a business, you're the kind of guy who will do something that can be done for a low cost and try to do at a high cost to prove how wealthy he is.

If you want to cold approach 1000s of women and get rejected 999 times (which would be the case for you), do it but don't try to stop us from finding better ways which are too lazy, incompetent, and likely unworthy to try out yourself.
You're way too angry for me to believe you have any success in the real world whatsoever lol.

I already told you I don't limit myself. More choice is better in my opinion. Of course I don't spend hours cold approaching women. But if I'm out and I see a woman I want to meet, I'll talk to her. Not afraid of rejection because I can attract women pretty easily.

Instead of going on the attack, maybe you should try to learn something from me. You might actually get laid.
 

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Chat people up, have fun, let them talk about themselves, they will start to like you. They will invite you to fun stuff, be there and your in a new social circle.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Go make another thread about social media to compensate for being a lesser man IRL.
I am not the one crying about struggling socially in college and if you were smart, you would STFU and listen to everything wiser men on here say so you actually have a college experience. Or you can continue trying to argue with me and see where that takes you, that's right, a lonely miserable college experience spent arguing on internet forums.
 

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I am not the one crying about struggling socially in college and if you were smart, you would STFU and listen to everything wiser men on here say so you actually have a college experience. Or you can continue trying to argue with me and see where that takes you, that's right, a lonely miserable college experience spent arguing on internet forums.
Yet here you are crying about how I disagree with you. This is one of the many reasons why I left social media. Look at how caught up you are in this. You're so offended that I can sit here and call you a fvcking braindead monkey and at the same time can't do anything about it. Listen here, sunshine, I don't give a fvck what you think or say and many other people don't either. That's life. People don't care about you or what you have to say. You spend your time all online so you can't see that. It's hilarious too since you say that I of all people am the one who argues with people on an Internet forum all the time; you're the one who everyone on this forum believes to be an idiotic loser who can't get laid while at the same time you preach about how important your online image is.

What you talk about holds little to no merit in the real world. Maybe that's why you struggle so much in the real world. You're the king of your Facebook wall and the Snapchat story, but in reality you are a weak man who will die away. Good riddance you online hermit. Stay on a computer forever like the rest of your Asian cousins you fvcking loser.

Go ahead, respond to me now that you've been called out, yet again. See if it gives you any more brownie points. But I can tell you people will only respect you less and less on here for it. Not that it even matters, it's an Internet forum LOL. But to a loser hermit like you, it means everything in the world since the online you is everything.
 

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Yet here you are crying about how I disagree with you. This is one of the many reasons why I left social media. Look at how caught up you are in this. You're so offended that I can sit here and call you a fvcking braindead monkey and at the same time can't do anything about it. Listen here, sunshine, I don't give a fvck what you think or say and many other people don't either. That's life. People don't care about you or what you have to say. You spend your time all online so you can't see that. It's hilarious too since you say that I of all people am the one who argues with people on an Internet forum all the time; you're the one who everyone on this forum believes to be an idiotic loser who can't get laid while at the same time you preach about how important your online image is.

What you talk about holds little to no merit in the real world. Maybe that's why you struggle so much in the real world. You're the king of your Facebook wall and the Snapchat story, but in reality you are a weak man who will die away. Good riddance you online hermit. Stay on a computer forever like the rest of your Asian cousins you fvcking loser.

Go ahead, respond to me now that you've been called out, yet again. See if it gives you any more brownie points. But I can tell you people will only respect you less and less on here for it. Not that it even matters, it's an Internet forum LOL. But to a loser hermit like you, it means everything in the world since the online you is everything.
This is why I win, look at how much time and energy you invested in that whole paragraph trying to come up with an insult, only confirming that you are a college hermit with no good advice to give.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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