So are they ALL like that?

[BlueAlpha1]

Today I received a wedding invitation from a friend who I've known for 15 years. We go way back as our families both had a time share in the same vacation spot since we were 12, and we still see each other once a year. Good guy, good friend.

Anyway, I never met the girl and just saw her picture for the first time, and was surprised to see a 7 marrying my homeboy (who is blue pill to his core, and weighs 240 pounds at 5'10"). She's not in this for his looks or bad boy attitude. No - he is a first level manager at a high end hotel in New York City making about $65,000 a year at the ripe age of 28. He's Jewish, his family comes from money, and he has the work ethic that will carry him to a 250k salary some day. I'm talking 12 hour days, 6 days a week, and a 1 hour commute each way.

I'm worried about him, but of course don't have the heart to warn him of what could eventually happen to him. Trying to explain TRP to a man who isn't receptive is futile. This has all the telltale signs of the Beta Bux story. The invitation was full of unbearable quotes like "friends for 3 years prior until that one fateful day" and "spending the rest of our lives together". It this a foregone conclusion, or is my trepidation just my insecurity that I haven't found a good girl yet?

 

[Serenity]

Why do you care, focus on yourself.

If you know he won't listen then he has made his choice, he will suffer the consequences of his choices like everyone else, good and bad.

You assume a lot about a woman you have never met, you don't know her. Meaning everything you think about her is a fantasy pulled out of thin air.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

Keep your thoughts and fears to yourself or you will alienate your friend and look like an a$$ hat all in one gesture. He may in fact be delighted about the situation, best not to rain on his parade. After he marries somebody is going to be correct. You or him. My crystal ball is at the shop so I can't call this one any more than you can.

Go to the wedding, celebrate with your friend and reserve judgement. Perhaps you'll meet someone interesting there, you never can tell. But don't pee in his Wheaties. Some men actually find good marriage worthy women. You know nothing about her or the relationship so best to go enjoy yourself and refrain from sharing your perspective. It will not reflect well on you at this moment in time.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Why do you care, focus on yourself.

If you know he won't listen then he has made his choice, he will suffer the consequences of his choices like everyone else, good and bad.

You assume a lot about a woman you have never met, you don't know her. Meaning everything you think about her is a fantasy pulled out of thin air.

I am not focused on myself, and I am not going to say anything to him. It was a simple question about a friend's situation.

That is a pretty silly reply if you ask me. I asked a question on a forum entirely dedicated to AWALT theories and red pill vs blue pill principles and you asked me why I care. So if I'm not the subject of the thread I shouldn't create it?

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Advice from the old lady:

Keep your thoughts and fears to yourself or you will alienate your friend and look like an a$$ hat all in one gesture. He may in fact be delighted about the situation, best not to rain on his parade. After he marries somebody is going to be correct. You or him. My crystal ball is at the shop so I can't call this one any more than you can.

Go to the wedding, celebrate with your friend and reserve judgement. Perhaps you'll meet someone interesting there, you never can tell. But don't pee in his Wheaties. Some men actually find good marriage worthy women. You know nothing about her or the relationship so best to go enjoy yourself and refrain from sharing your perspective. It will not reflect well on you at this moment in time.

I stated in the post that I have zero intentions of speaking a word to him. I am not a talker in real life. I keep my opinions to myself and insist others do the same on my behalf. The question was just to the forum who've been around the block more times than I. But deep down I am worried because this has the potential to be disastrous.

BTW, we live in a different state so I can't go. I don't do weddings anyway. They make me sick. Sadly once you've swallowed the red pill it's difficult to put a happy face on blue pill parades.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

It this a foregone conclusion, or is my trepidation just my insecurity that I haven't found a good girl yet?

My opinion.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

My opinion.

Could be, but if you could see the invitation you'd lose your lunch too.

 

[Serenity]

I am not focused on myself, and I am not going to say anything to him. It was a simple question about a friend's situation.

That is a pretty silly reply if you ask me. I asked a question on a forum entirely dedicated to AWALT theories and red pill vs blue pill principles and you asked me why I care. So if I'm not the subject of the thread I shouldn't create it?

I don't care what you think of my reply, that is what I think about your post. This forum is not entirely dedicated to AWALT theories and red pill vs blue pill social constructs. It's dedicated to helping guys be successful with women, which is possible without sweeping generalizations and probably more effective without that too.

Your question is basically "is she doing it for the money and do all women do it for the money?", so I'll address that now. If this particular woman does it for the money is hard for you to know, impossible for me to know. There could be sides to their relationship you don't see, know about or even understand. Do all women marry for money? No, generalizations are for stupid people who doesn't understand the nuances of reality.

 

[foreverAFC]

oh man he is going to get chewed up and spit out

 

[zekko]

I know it's hard to believe, but some marriages actually work out. Who knows why? Maybe he'll be one of the lucky ones.
Or maybe she'll screw him over and he'll learn a valuable lesson. From what you say, he's an ambitious fellow so I imagine he'll turn out all right no matter what happens.
Think he's smart enough to get a prenup?

 

[BeTheChange]

Unsolicited red pill advice is generally poorly received, especially towards blue pillers.

Give advice when asked. How do people get curious enough to ask? When they see your success with women the questions will come.

 

[AttackFormation]

The blue bill means your buddy thinks he's made it. Telling him otherwise is gonna make you the bad guy to him because you're contradicting his life's progress. You'll have to wait until he's being divorced.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Regards the OP. Like you say, he's blue-pill. And as has also been said, no one every took the red-pill by having it forced down their neck. Most take it after profound and/or repeated failure.

The whole family/families are clearly the same. 'Blue pill' obviously extends to lifestyle, political/religious outlook. It literally is a lifestyle.

....he is a first level manager at a high end hotel in New York City making about $65,000 a year at the ripe age of 28. He's Jewish, his family comes from money, and he has the work ethic that will carry him to a 250k salary some day. I'm talking 12 hour days, 6 days a week, and a 1 hour commute each way.

But look at this fcking miserable existence he has ahead of him. I bet his working day it absolutely full of needy entitled tossers in form of hotel customers and staff as well.

Fck that for a laugh. When I'm earning as much as your friend is now which isn't far away now, I plan to actually start working less, part-time i.e. take 0.8 full time salary to work four days per week.

Even at 0.8 65K FTE, that's still 52K pre-tax, which is far and away more than enough to live happily and comfortably - in this country it's equivalent to pretty much 3.5K net, monthly. You know how much fun I'd have on 3.5K, working four days a week.... I cant even begin to explain.

Your friend is just trapped in the same annual consumerism regurgitation as the other 80% of western people.... "you need more and more and more money for the new phone/car/sofa/house/investment/wedding that you have to pay for in two years time".

What the fck is the point in giving up all that time to earn 250K when the government takes half anyway, and corporate industry/kids/wife take nearly all of the rest. What a horrendous waste of life.

 

[The Duke]

That marriage has about a 50% chance of working! So wish him the best, be there for him, but let him learn on his own. Marriage is something everybody should go thru once. Even Deesade and PoonKing! lol.

 

[Roober]

65k in new york? A hotel manager? That is certainly not a prestigious job either. She is not marrying him for his money...

Maybe he is more red pill than you think. Typically guys who date women out of their league are either the super nice I will do anything for you, have money, or are actually red pill guys. Once kids come around, most women won't leave until much later in life. So I imagine it lasts 15-20 years till she starts feeling her age...

 

[El Payaso]

I think what you can do is buy him one or two red pill books on managing a marriage. Wrap it up and give it personally to him as his wedding gift.

He's not going to suddenly dump the woman now because you have some theoretical objections about what she might do.

As you give him the book, tell him that in today's climate, marriage is very difficult and complicated for two people to manage for a lifetime and that you only want to see his marriage flourish. He should read this book. There's a lot of good knowledge in it.

Or you can say something to that effect. Whatever you say, just make sure it is directed at HELPING the marriage not breaking it down.

 

[narcissist]

Regards the OP. Like you say, he's blue-pill. And as has also been said, no one every took the red-pill by having it forced down their neck. Most take it after profound and/or repeated failure.

The whole family/families are clearly the same. 'Blue pill' obviously extends to lifestyle, political/religious outlook. It literally is a lifestyle.



But look at this fcking miserable existence he has ahead of him. I bet his working day it absolutely full of needy entitled tossers in form of hotel customers and staff as well.

Fck that for a laugh. When I'm earning as much as your friend is now which isn't far away now, I plan to actually start working less, part-time i.e. take 0.8 full time salary to work four days per week.

Even at 0.8 65K FTE, that's still 52K pre-tax, which is far and away more than enough to live happily and comfortably - in this country it's equivalent to pretty much 3.5K net, monthly. You know how much fun I'd have on 3.5K, working four days a week.... I cant even begin to explain.

Your friend is just trapped in the same annual consumerism regurgitation as the other 80% of western people.... "you need more and more and more money for the new phone/car/sofa/house/investment/wedding that you have to pay for in two years time".

What the fck is the point in giving up all that time to earn 250K when the government takes half anyway, and corporate industry/kids/wife take nearly all of the rest. What a horrendous waste of life.

Agree with the last part. People think they need a butt load of money to live happily. This is why I have adopted a minimalistic lifestyle. Buy as little as possible. Only the bare bones necessities. I have 2-3 things that I treat myself on (clothes, cars, technology). My house is for the most part literally empty (obviously I have a bed, and couch etc, but 80% less than the average place). And That the way I like it. Clean, minimal, some nicely framed art, thats it. It looks like a cool post-modern house. Plus saving becomes so easy once you dont buy needless garbage. The money just stays in your bank, and you can use it to do better things like travel, and go to cool places.

I forget where I heard it but this quote sums up my perspective on consumerism: "Dont buy things, buy experiences."

I want to work as little as possible in my life, and get by comfortably with security. Not because I am lazy, but simply because I want to do other hobbies like write my novels, and continue my youtube channel. This will become increasingly hard as I become a professor, however. BUT I enjoy teaching, and I enjoy academics, so I dont really see it as "work"

 

[Trump]

Today I received a wedding invitation from a friend who I've known for 15 years. We go way back as our families both had a time share in the same vacation spot since we were 12, and we still see each other once a year. Good guy, good friend.

I'm worried about him, but of course don't have the heart to warn him of what could eventually happen to him. Trying to explain TRP to a man who isn't receptive is futile. This has all the telltale signs of the Beta Bux story. The invitation was full of unbearable quotes like "friends for 3 years prior until that one fateful day" and "spending the rest of our lives together". It this a foregone conclusion, or is my trepidation just my insecurity that I haven't found a good girl yet?

Yeah bro you are not worried about him, you're jealous. In fact if he broke up with his fiancé before the wedding you would be happy.

It's human nature, we are always jealous of others when they have and flaunt what we don't have and want. Go to the wedding and find a bridesmaid to have some fun with.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Could be, but if you could see the invitation you'd lose your lunch too.

This may be a shock to you self-described redpill superheroes, but happiness is subjective. Some people LOVE to eat pig ears. I tried it once, never again.

You gain neither credibility nor self respect when you put down somebody else's subjective description of whatever floats their boat.

Here's some red pill advice:

Live and Let Live.

It's your job as a human to choose people to hang with, build relationships with, make a family with that resonate with your worldviews.

You gain nothing by spending your energy pointing out how wrong everybody is.

 

[Tenacity]

Today I received a wedding invitation from a friend who I've known for 15 years. We go way back as our families both had a time share in the same vacation spot since we were 12, and we still see each other once a year. Good guy, good friend.

Got it.

Anyway, I never met the girl and just saw her picture for the first time, and was surprised to see a 7 marrying my homeboy (who is blue pill to his core, and weighs 240 pounds at 5'10"). She's not in this for his looks or bad boy attitude. No - he is a first level manager at a high end hotel in New York City making about $65,000 a year at the ripe age of 28. He's Jewish, his family comes from money, and he has the work ethic that will carry him to a 250k salary some day. I'm talking 12 hour days, 6 days a week, and a 1 hour commute each way.

Got it.

I'm worried about him, but of course don't have the heart to warn him of what could eventually happen to him. Trying to explain TRP to a man who isn't receptive is futile. This has all the telltale signs of the Beta Bux story. The invitation was full of unbearable quotes like "friends for 3 years prior until that one fateful day" and "spending the rest of our lives together".

It this a foregone conclusion, or is my trepidation just my insecurity that I haven't found a good girl yet?

Okay so here's the honest truth/breakdown.

The FACTS are that at least 40% - 45% of first marriages end in divorce. When you factor in second and third marriage divorce numbers, the average that end in divorce spike close to 60%.

With those FACTS being displayed, it's also a FACT that not 100% of marriages end in divorce. However, just because someone didn't get divorced, does not mean they are living happily ever after either. Just as it doesn't mean they AREN'T living happily ever after, as some people get married, stay married, and are HAPPY.

You mentioned that this was a good guy and a good friend since you were 12, so in my opinion, it's your responsibility as a good friend to speak your mind to an "extent", let me explain.

- When I invite people over to drink, party, and watch something on TV.....if I THINK (which is my personal insecurity) that they are drunk, I ask them (not tell or demand, just ask) that they hang out for a little while longer, eat something, and let the BUZZ cool down.

- That's my JOB as a friend, it's not to be your Daddy, it's just to look out for you as a Friend if I personally feel you might be (not 100% sure, but just a possibility) headed into dangerous territory.

- But if they choose not to stay and decide to leave, I just tell them to be careful because we've been drinking/partying, the cops are always out, and I don't want to see them get any DUIs!

So with that being said, if you personally feel (fvck what someone on this forum says) that your good friend MIGHT be (you aren't 100% sure, but there's a possibility) headed into some sort of dangerous territory.....just take him to the side and have a convo. A light convo. That's it. Tell him you have been his boy since you guys were 12 years old and are just looking out for him, that's all. Nothing more to it.

You see it's those types of friends I like having around. Now, even after you warn me of whatever I'm about to do, at the end of the day, I'm still going to do whatever the fvck TENACITY wants to do lol.

However, if all hell breaks loose and I know my boy warned me about the shyt upfront....and I just didn't listen...it would make me APPRECIATE my boy even more.