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Is she playing games with me?

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So we are supposed to meet this weekend -- no activity confirmed yet.

Today she called me to see if I want to hang out later today, I said I couldn't and told her we will talk about this weekend later. Then she was like "I don't know. I might be busy."

I don't know if she's playing games with me because I've responded her with similar tones before, like "maybe" "depends what you want to do"... Is she copying me?

What should I do? Try to confirm with her or just go on and make other plans?
 

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LeonSK said:
So we are supposed to meet this weekend -- no activity confirmed yet.

Today she called me to see if I want to hang out later today, I said I couldn't and told her we will talk about this weekend later. Then she was like "I don't know. I might be busy."

I don't know if she's playing games with me because I've responded her with similar tones before, like "maybe" "depends what you want to do"... Is she copying me?

What should I do? Try to confirm with her or just go on and make other plans?

Question, today is Tuesday, why did you set up a date with her so far in advance? Y'all kill with these expectations that women will set a aside a block of time for you in the future, especially when she's hasn't invested emotionally into the relationship. Y'all have to strike when the iron is hot with these hoes, and if you don't you have a very strong possibility of her flaking on you, that's why I always go for the bounce date. In my honest opinion, you should never set a date that's more than three days in advance and never on the weekend. You need to listen to these Harry Wilimington podcasts on the issue,

Episode 36: Stop Accepting “Maybe” Dates

http://www.stoplosingwomen.com/page/8/

Episode 44: Stop Planning “Tentative” Dates

http://www.stoplosingwomen.com/page/7/

Episode 85: Stop Talking Future-Speak With Dates

http://www.stoplosingwomen.com/page/3/


Don't be surprised if baby girl suddenly 'forgets," that you have a date with you, she has a "family," or some other kind of "emergency," or she just opts out to hang with "friends." If she flakes, f*ck that b*tch, because she already indicated that she wanted to change the day of the date and I do give you props for not changing an already agreed upon set of plans.
 

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Yes girls sometimes wanna play the same game as you so they don't seem easy, or act busy like you.

Just make definite plans and when you do be straight like 'ok Ill see you there at x loc at x time !'

I don't see any red flaggs since she asked you to hang out, she prob doesn't like you changing the schedule and saying maybe and stuff and wants to give it back to you like I said.

just make definite plans that's it. if she flakes, replie with 'ok' and she'll get back to you eventually. Be short and let her inititate a date from there.. if she only attention wh0r3s on texts and doesn't mention getting together go ghost.

Why would you make a whole deal out of it that she does the choosing on firstdate time and location. I would say, let her for the first date decide and just go with it if she reaches out to you to do something. If you have fun and get her to like you on the first date, you can get more dominant later on when her interest level is raised. At first dates just accept it if she reaches out to you with a time and loc and you can go. Reduces flakes, after gaming her shes yours and you can do the choosing from there and she will more likeley go along with it.

Don't be indifferent or rescheduling (without a reason) towards a girl youve just met regarding first dates arrangements. Just go along with the easiest, quickest day. Build rapport, get her to like you, get a good vibe, simply a great first date. After that you can do all that, coz your sure she's interested, then you'll games will have effect since youve already been together.

goodluck !
 

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Ask her out for a specific time at a specific place. If she says "maybe, I'm not sure, I gotta feed my cat, etc". its time to cut her loose. While she's busy figuring out what she's gonna do you're busy finding another girl. Maybe she'll contact you in a week or so...maybe not. Be willing to walk. Good luck buddy.
 

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Maximus Rex said:
Question, today is Tuesday, why did you set up a date with her so far in advance? Y'all kill with these expectations that women will set a aside a block of time for you in the future, especially when she's hasn't invested emotionally into the relationship. Y'all have to strike when the iron is hot with these hoes, and if you don't you have a very strong possibility of her flaking on you, that's why I always go for the bounce date. In my honest opinion, you should never set a date that's more than three days in advance and never on the weekend.
Yeah, didn't know that might kill her interest. I am the kind of person who likes to plan things ahead…

what does "bounce date" mean? and why "never on weekend"?
 

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A bounce date is one where you change locations. Like you meet her at a bar for drinks, then take her for a walk in the park, then to another bar and get some shots in her, then back to your place for secks.

Never on the weekends because you want her to believe you have a life already. You are busy hanging out getting hammered picking up chicks with your buddies on the weekend right?
 

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OK. This chick sent me a SUPER LONG text two hours later after I tried to confirm with her, basically she mentioned every piece of detail she didn't like about me from last date. This was super funny and shocking because she said "it was fun" when she got off my car on the last date.

Should I try to explain or just NEXT? I'm inclined to reply something like "ok" and go ghost.
 

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Loool what a crazy b1tch, what did she text :crackup:
Go ghost don't give her closure don't explain yourself give her nothing
 

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TheGambino said:
Loool what a crazy b1tch, what did she text :crackup:
Go ghost don't give her closure don't explain yourself give her nothing
Yeah, if she didn't like the date, why would she call me again today to hang out?

she thinks I was acting and showing myself and she didn't expect that from me. she also took offense from some of the jokes I said. Basically she is saying I'm not nice and cool as she expected. I've seen her once before, before I came to this forum. I was more cooperative and "nicer" back then (e.g. when she said something not so nice, I would just take it). This time I just treated her the way she treated me, such as disagreeing with her when I don't agree her thought.
 

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Seriously? You still have to ask us about this chick after she has 'negged' you??

You lost your frame and your d!ck frame, dude.

Any women with high interest would not risk negging the man she's with. That is a total loss of respect.

She sounds quite immature to me, and doesn't know what she wants - this is all games to me. Do you really want drama in your life? She's got it going for you - mass confusion.

Welcome to your hell.

Exodus
 

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papawapa said:
A bounce date is one where you change locations. Like you meet her at a bar for drinks, then take her for a walk in the park, then to another bar and get some shots in her, then back to your place for secks.

Never on the weekends because you want her to believe you have a life already. You are busy hanging out getting hammered picking up chicks with your buddies on the weekend right?
When you initially meet a chick, you bounce her.
 

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If you find yourself confused by a woman's behavior, its because you are being manipulated OR you are ignorant about how women operate. She sensed you weren't the real deal and you proved her right.

A woman who doesn't want your attention will go ghost. A woman who doesn't trust you will act like a b!tch to see your reaction. Women need to be able to label the men they know ASAP so they know how to behave around those men.

Women know most beta faggots will take any female interaction they can get. The bottom line is.. women who are sexually attracted to you will submit to you. Anything other than submission is attention wh0ring, manipulation or exploitation.

Women like to keep a beta faggot in the dark about where he stands because it allows her to use him without having to f*ck him. :crackup:

As long as the beta thinks he has a "chance" at eventually f*cking her.. he will be a willing, pandering and obedient orbiter. Women like to collect beta orbiters because they come in handy when she needs therapy, a ride, a favor, money, a body guard, etc.

Once a man knows he will NEVER f*ck a woman he loses his incentive to associate with her. So you'll notice a woman will almost NEVER tell a beta he has no chance with her. Its not about protecting his "feelings" its about keeping him useful. :up:

This is why I tell men to get touchy-feely with women very EARLY and make it clear she won't get sh!t from you unless she gives you a sexual relationship.
 

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Harry Wilmington said:
Just out of curiosity, can you give us a summary of what she said she didn't like about you on the date?
1. She think i was acting and showing and she didn't not expect that because "at first you seemed nice and cool".
2. I picked this restaurant A. After we got there, she didn't like it and wanted to change place. I didn't follow her plan and insisted we try the food at A.
3. I was trying to get a picture of her. I was just playing with my phone camera coz' she was playing with her phone.
4. When we talk about future career, she thinks I was doubtful of her plan.
 
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