you're gonna think i'm so stupid, i'm not getting this neg stuff good.

[Dex Bama]

So here's facebook pickup using what i learned from reading the game and some of mystery's stuff. haha. man i'm ****in dumb. read.

Me: hey so i was thinkin you were pretty cool, until i saw that picture of you in that sweater. Lol : )

Her: Sweater?

Me: seriously? haha
forget the sweater. You seem like a unique person. Tell me two interesting things about yourself. just two. : )

Her: Pah ha. Okay I'm guessing that was a joke
I leave for the airforce in 41 days
Uhh....
The weird thing about that...I'm a huge flower child

Me: lol that's alright. All the airforce buddies i know have never killed anyone. they said if the enemy reaches us we're ****ed. we don't even have a pistol.

so did you fail at college so you're joing the airforce?

Her: Uh no. I did really well. Ppl don't join the military because they fail. Thanks

ME: I was just messin with you.

you're not an uptight person are you? lol

Her: o Not at all. I'm probably the most laid back person in the world (not always the best thing)

Sorry just right this minute I'm so annoyed!! I have this
one guy that I don't know who the hell he is txting me every five mins and its creepy. I had to be escorted of work the other day cause this stalker dude wouldn't leave. I have a guy that tries to kiss me everytime I get around him. And finally my ex boyfriend is a *****

I'm sure you didn't need to know all that but that's prolly why I'm slightly defensive atm. Haha sorry, but you just caught me in a moment

Me: lol. that's an alright excuse. lucky you. i've never had a stalker that devoted. haha.
So I'll let it slide this time kiddo. : )

What do you do for fun besides talking to funny and handsome guys on facebook?

Her: Uh everything else pretty much. Do I know you through somebody

Me: wouldn't you know if you knew me through somebody else? lol

it's ok. commone sense isn't needed in the airforce. : )

Her: Your kinda of insulting. Or is that just ****y?

Me: haha.

depends. did you smile and laugh a little when you read it?
Her: Oh btw, you spelled common wrong. Its okay, common sense isn't needed for you either

Her: Not really. I'm a pretty honest person, that's not exactly charming

Me: haha, you have to stoop so low to make fun of my typos?

oh i can tell you and me aren't a match. we're too simlar(here's a free shot at

me). I wouldn't take your **** and you wouldn't take mine. : )

if you could live anywhere in the world, where would you go?

Her: , Exactly, I've had enough boy bull**** the past few years, hence, no ****-taking.
Ha and it isn't low to insult my intell w/o the slightest clue who I am
I win

Her: Uhm, I would really have to think about that because I want to go and see everything. Somewhere in Europe would be on top of my list cause of

Her: , the historical value and somewhat city life

Me: lol charming... you little ****. don't make me come down there and pick you up by your puppy scruff. lol : )

my class is over. I gotta get off here. I can text you or we'll talk some other time.

Me: same here. if there's anywhere i'd have a house that is mine forever would be in the grand cayman islands and right here in [state]. I wanna see the whole world. and will. some day. just gotta stay away from girls that'll hold me back. : )
i'm surprised your handeling a double conversation in the same messages. i hate that. cya kiddo : ) we'll talk again soon.

Her: Same. Guys hold me back. Most are too ignorant of everything else besides what fuking boots they want to wear or which dip they wanna try. I'm not meant
to be in [state], I've been saying that since I was 5

Her: C Your surprised? Do you think I'm stupid or something?
My name isn't kiddo, its [her name].
And you need to work on your conversations, maybe leave out the
C *****y parts.

Me: lol, i forgot you're in a pissy mood. fine fine. If you gotta ruin our teasing and start being for real mean. Let me get on your level of boring. Lol. : )

Her: Ook

Me: lol i'm sorry for bein so mean.
I really don't get on here much how can we continue talkin? i'll be nicer. : )





And she hasn't replied haha, so what went wrong here?

 

[jophil28]

C&F is meant to be used like salt and pepper on a good meal. A little is just about right .
Did you ever try to digest a steak that is covered in salt or pepper ?

Oh, and your attempt to save yourself right at the end was weak and awful .

 

[terran2k]

you over did it, like ever other sentence is a put down. And just how many smiley faces can one person use in a conversation. then you apologize or say you're kidding every time it seems.

 

[Waking Up]

Trying way too hard. Like others said C&F is used at the right MOMENTS where it's appropriate during the conversation. It's gotta be a genuine good tease that arises naturally because of the circumstances of the convo. You don't go out of your way to create a neg, that's trying too hard. Talk to her like she's human and try to have an interesting conversation, and when appropriate, C&F.

 

[J. Darko]

I didn't read your post. Just read the title and thought: he cares to much and has no self-esteem. That's the issue, forget about stupid games lie negs.

I mean, why do you think that we think that your stupid?Why do you care that we think you are stupid? And why would you be stupid for not getting the neg stuff good?

Believe in yourself.

 

[ENIGMA16]

First off you need to just chill out and stop worrying. We've all been where you're at right now, so you're not stupid. How can you expect yourself to be automatically good at something you know so little about or have so little experience with? You're just new to this so you're going to make stupid mistakes and stuff, we all do though. So just relax and stop beating yourself up about this.

With that being said, you laid it on way too heavy. A neg is something that you do every once in a while - like another poster said, it's like salt and pepper. Have you ever seen the show "The Dog Whisperer"? You'll notice on that show that when a dog gets into a certain mindset he'll poke the dog to snap it out of that mindset and back into a frame which he wants them to be in. That is exactly what a neg is for.

Now, the next thing you need to stop doing is explaining yourself. You don't have to answer to this girl, to us or anyone but yourself. In the end you apologized to her! What the f*ck is that? I don't care what you say/do, but apologizing for your actions, unless you legitimately ****ed up, is something you don't do to women. You either roll with it or drop it.

Her: C Your surprised? Do you think I'm stupid or something?
My name isn't kiddo, its [her name].
And you need to work on your conversations, maybe leave out the
C *****y parts.

I don't know what this means. What are the C's? And what is *****y?

Anyways, saying "you little ****" isn't negging it's just rude.

Finally, you talked for her for way too long. If you're going to try to game girls on Facebook all you need to do is a short conversation to get the number and then stop talking to her on Facebook and call her. If you want to see this handled really well (and yes I'm totally blowing smoke up my own ass) check out this thread and particularly this post for the transcript. Yes I completely fvcked it up later but I think I played that really well. I was talking to her for only 5 or 10 minutes, I kept it light and teased her a bit, got the number and bailed ASAP.

 

[todays_news]

firstly, if you've read the game, then study and learn page 41 for when you're out.

secondly, I've never even attempted facebook come-ons to people i havent met. imo it reeks of desperation, and i hate facebook. And you never know what people are like properly.

thirdly, you cant be insulting every other sentence and class it as negging. It doesn't make you look ****y and confident, its really a see through way of projecting confidence.

And no, its not stupid, cant be expected to get it right every time!

 

[DonGorgon]

its sad how much women love being negged.. but dont forget the rule - THEY ONLY LIKED TO BE NEGGED BY MEN THEY CONSIDER TO BY CUTE AND PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE.

I watch it every day all day at work as this brad pit looking dude neggs this 31 year old woman and she smiles and giggles like a school girl..

 

[the305]

Ahh.. the common by product of mystery method/the game =D I see it 10 times a day.

My advice, throw the game/mystery method book out the window, and start focusing on befriending and developing social skills with people, if you want to "read" anything, read chrismaarts, as it focuses on conversational skills mainly.

STOP the "negging"
STOP the "value crap"
STOP the completely miscalibrated out of no where: "You seem like a unique person. Tell me two interesting things about yourself. just two."

You are developing a split personality, of some PUA person and who you really are, make a better you, not another you.

Would you be receptive and actually enjoy talking to the person, if they just delivered your whole "routine/negging" onslaught to, you?

 

[zekko]

its sad how much women love being negged.. but dont forget the rule - THEY ONLY LIKED TO BE NEGGED BY MEN THEY CONSIDER TO BY CUTE AND PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE.

There's a lot of truth to that. If a guy they find unattractive negs them, they put the knife in his back the minute it's turned. I've seen it at work also.

It's kind of scary when you think that there are women out there who are aware of what negging is. That's why I'm not a big fan of negs, I just like to tease them naturally. Maybe some of it might technically be considered negging, but I'm not thinking "Oh, I have to say something insulting here to attract her". The OP's chat log is horrible, it sounds like he had just read a pickup book.

 

[Ease]

First off you were ****ed from the start. Somebody else said it, but talking to a new girl from scratch on facebook/msn is rigged. They have a crazy b*tch shield thats impossible to break, stuff that works normally is completely useless on msn. You immediately are put in the position of loser and her value is 10 times above you.

The conversation had problems which can be solved with experience and wisdom. But chatting up on facebook is tough.

 

[todays_news]

Ahh.. the common by product of mystery method/the game =D I see it 10 times a day.

My advice, throw the game/mystery method book out the window, and start focusing on befriending and developing social skills with people, if you want to "read" anything, read chrismaarts, as it focuses on conversational skills mainly.

STOP the "negging"
STOP the "value crap"
STOP the completely miscalibrated out of no where: "You seem like a unique person. Tell me two interesting things about yourself. just two."

You are developing a split personality, of some PUA person and who you really are, make a better you, not another you.

Would you be receptive and actually enjoy talking to the person, if they just delivered your whole "routine/negging" onslaught to, you?

the negging and the value crap works noticeably well for me... but then i dont onslaught with it and neither should anyone else. Thats called rudeness. (See above)

the peacocking seems to work to a lower extent, along with many other things in the book.

granted, a proportion of it is bullocks, like the example listed.

but i'm still investing in mysterys book, both have good reviews and are good reads regardless.

i also find reading new material helps my confidence, combined with elements of this site, and i'm starting to develop strategies and game depending on the girl im approaching. Worked well for me, everyone is different bla bla bla.