Women as Manipulators

[Desdinova]

This subject came up on another message board that I frequent, and someone made an interesting post:

In broad generalization women are more likely to be manipulators then men.

A male bully is usually very physically imposing and uses his physical strength to intimidate others. Having a bully complex isn't limited to the male gender but women usually lack the physical strength to exert their will by brute force. That means they need to use mind games to achieve their end.

This pattern of bully behavior can cascade down to day to day agreements. If a man and a woman are having an argument that escalates to a boiling point, a man has the ability to "finish" the fight with force. That option isn't available to women so many learn to control the situation with words and mind games to keep the playing field level.

Your thoughts?

 

[joekerr31]

ummm, i agree.

this is so basic and straight forward is there really much more to say?

the weaker of any two organisms, when placed in vicinity to each other, will form a relationship wherein the weaker organism adapts to deal with the stronger organism.

it doesnt just apply to women, it applies across nature.

next time your at the gym notice how you act slightly different aroudn the guy who is 230 pounds of pure muscle. odds are you act differently to him than you would a guy with similar physical traits as your own. whether that be ignoring him, or being overly friendly, or whatever. you modifiy your behavior (ie. manipulate) to protect yourself or gain as much leverage in relation to the stronger organism as you can.

as a man though, when you interact with women, 99% of the time you are going to notice this type of behavior. its natural.

the only things thats shocking about it, is how many men voluntarily whip out their kawk, put it on the chopping block and then chop it off themselves, just because their woman tells them to. you gotta hand it to women, a lot of them manage to actually become the stronger party even though by the laws of nature they are inherently the weaker party. its a sad statement on how far men have fallen.

 

[Mindtrust]

Ok, I have a friend who recently got back with his partner of 3 years. He loves this girl but she is an absolute b*tch toward's him, treats and speaks to him like dirt. She has had him up at court on more than one occasion, for as far as i know, a complete load of rubbish. She is known to have mental problems.

For the past 6 months, she has had an injunction on him, so he has never been able to go anywhere near her or his kid. Now, all of a sudden, she lets him back into there lifes and he jumps straight back in arms open..

When I have been around both of them, it's so annoying to see how much control she has over his life. He has to lie about where he is going when it come's to visiting friends, I mean the guy is a total nervous wreck. He is in total hiding, away from any confrontation with this girl.

And all of this, because she know's if he steps one foot out of line on the domestic front, she can have him locked up. I mean she causes fights just on this alone to push him, I have never known a girl like her.

I know this is his own decision, and I have really tried to get him to see sence, but the guy loves this girl and his kid, and baring in mind he hasn't seen his kid in 6 months.. I wish he would wake up!

It just comes to show how far a woman is willing to go..

Mindtrust

 

[Demon Wolf]

OMFG!! What a psycho controlling *****. Some one should kick her ass:kick:.

Mindtrust, I hope you can get your friend to get his head on right. He should ditch the ***** and sign over his kid so he does not have to pay child support if he can still do that at this point.

 

[ElChoclo]

Western industrialised societies do not endorse the resolution of personal relationship disputes by violence. Therefore physical strength in a relationship cannot reliably ensure that a man has any particular advantage in dealing with a woman.

Women are trained to manipulate from birth. They have the perfect tool at their disposal for manipulation. Nature has given man the testosterone and a built in sex addiction for the woman. Can a drug dealer manipulate an addict?

 

[Mindtrust]

OMFG!! What a psycho controlling *****. Some one should kick her ass:kick:.

Mindtrust, I hope you can get your friend to get his head on right. He should ditch the ***** and sign over his kid so he does not have to pay child support if he can still do that at this point.

This guy is even missing teeth through to there domestic status..

It's a sad case... He can't be helped, not through want of trying though.

His vision is full of flowers and fluffy clouds..

He will go to jail, im pretty sure.

Mindtrust

 

[Hurricane06]

Why even wield it though?
Why manipulate when there is no inherent reason to do so.
Most people date within their body style unless u are into fatties so why should physicality have a bearing?
They manipulate because they are subconsciously aware of their inherent flaws.Tap dance to keep you and others from knowing how insane their decision making process really is.
We had it right in the 50's.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Females have been doing that since before we apes were humans. It's not learned, it's an instinct.

Chimpanzee Politics

 

[mrgoodstuff]

ummm, i agree.

this is so basic and straight forward is there really much more to say?

the weaker of any two organisms, when placed in vicinity to each other, will form a relationship wherein the weaker organism adapts to deal with the stronger organism.

it doesnt just apply to women, it applies across nature.

next time your at the gym notice how you act slightly different aroudn the guy who is 230 pounds of pure muscle. odds are you act differently to him than you would a guy with similar physical traits as your own. whether that be ignoring him, or being overly friendly, or whatever. you modifiy your behavior (ie. manipulate) to protect yourself or gain as much leverage in relation to the stronger organism as you can.

as a man though, when you interact with women, 99% of the time you are going to notice this type of behavior. its natural.

the only things thats shocking about it, is how many men voluntarily whip out their kawk, put it on the chopping block and then chop it off themselves, just because their woman tells them to. you gotta hand it to women, a lot of them manage to actually become the stronger party even though by the laws of nature they are inherently the weaker party. its a sad statement on how far men have fallen.

It's called "power" and a woman who knows how to work the system in her advantage can strip down a very powerful independent male if he is not aware.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Ok, I have a friend who recently got back with his partner of 3 years. He loves this girl but she is an absolute b*tch toward's him, treats and speaks to him like dirt. She has had him up at court on more than one occasion, for as far as i know, a complete load of rubbish. She is known to have mental problems.

For the past 6 months, she has had an injunction on him, so he has never been able to go anywhere near her or his kid. Now, all of a sudden, she lets him back into there lifes and he jumps straight back in arms open..

You do it to yourself, you do
And that's what really hurts
Is that you do it to yourself
Just you, you and no one else
-Radiohead

If a man is so weak that he chooses to stick around with a crazy, manipulative b!tch, he only has himself to blame. It's like the male version of woman who keeps coming back to her abusive boyfriend.

 

[C-quenced]

Women's manipulation B.S. ONLY works when they're attractive. With the unattractive one's men generally see right through their manipulations. The only time I see unattractive women manipulating men is when the guy has standards so low that he'll screw just about anything.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

With the unattractive one's men generally see right through their manipulations.

Once I worked with this very unattractive woman. She messed up and knew it, but didn't want to admit it. She tried to cover it with a lie constructed in the moment that couldn't be proven or disproven. (Things most men are simply incapable of without a little bit of thought) While she said the lie part, she reached over and touched my arm and made these flirty eyes. I felt like vomiting. But it was interesting to see how "in the moment" ninja-like she came up with an UNVERIFIABLE lie right there on the spot.

 

[C-quenced]

Once I worked with this very unattractive woman. She messed up and knew it, but didn't want to admit it. She tried to cover it with a lie constructed in the moment that couldn't be proven or disproven. (Things most men are simply incapable of without a little bit of thought) While she said the lie part, she reached over and touched my arm and made these flirty eyes. I felt like vomiting. But it was interesting to see how "in the moment" ninja-like she came up with an UNVERIFIABLE lie right there on the spot.

In my life I've witnessed much more men spontaneously come up with very believable lies on the fly that puts anyone (male AND female) to shame. Half of them are super arrogant sociopaths and the others are career criminals. Women generally get much more practice at lying from a young age but their lies and manipulations become much easier to spot the more field experience one acquires.

When it comes to lying and manipulating the WORSE women are gold diggers, strippers and prostitutes/escorts. On one occasion I had a conversation with a pimp and on another with a strip club bouncer. These guys know nothing of each other and made a similar comment that still stands out to this day... "Don't trust ANYTHING these hoe's say. They lie about every single thing no matter how big or how small. They gotta lie about everything".

 

[ubercat]

Couldn't care less how much manipulation is going on out in the field. That's just the nature of woman and the game.

But what is concerning is how much they're getting away with in the workplace now a days. It seems that if a man doesn't instantly jump to it when a woman wants something he s seen as a problem and not a team player and yet the same women are super aggressive and never get called on it. And yes of course they fawn and flirt all over the managers.

We had this woman at work a contractor who was in the same position as me. I bust my chops and she does very little work probably ten percent of my output but does politics all day long and in spite of my boss telling the hierarchy that she was terrible she got her contract renewed.

We have this other woman employed as a manager. She is the most unstructured and illogical person I have ever met. Not only does she never do anything because she's terrified of accountability but she is actually a productivity hit on the rest of us she gets paid twice what I do and the senior managers know she is useless but she's still there. However she is a great manipulator.

It's disgusting it's like after a brief flirtation with civilization and rationality, humans are degenerating.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Women's manipulation B.S. ONLY works when they're attractive. With the unattractive one's men generally see right through their manipulations. The only time I see unattractive women manipulating men is when the guy has standards so low that he'll screw just about anything.

It shouldn't work if they are attractive either, but we fall for BS all the time.

 

[glass half full]

Ok, I have a friend who recently got back with his partner of 3 years. He loves this girl but she is an absolute b*tch toward's him, treats and speaks to him like dirt. She has had him up at court on more than one occasion, for as far as i know, a complete load of rubbish. She is known to have mental problems.

For the past 6 months, she has had an injunction on him, so he has never been able to go anywhere near her or his kid. Now, all of a sudden, she lets him back into there lifes and he jumps straight back in arms open..

When I have been around both of them, it's so annoying to see how much control she has over his life. He has to lie about where he is going when it come's to visiting friends, I mean the guy is a total nervous wreck. He is in total hiding, away from any confrontation with this girl.

And all of this, because she know's if he steps one foot out of line on the domestic front, she can have him locked up. I mean she causes fights just on this alone to push him, I have never known a girl like her.

I know this is his own decision, and I have really tried to get him to see sence, but the guy loves this girl and his kid, and baring in mind he hasn't seen his kid in 6 months.. I wish he would wake up!

It just comes to show how far a woman is willing to go..

Mindtrust

Dam, I'd pack my sh!t while she's gone and disappear. Several states away. Of course it would s*ck if they had kids...