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Why is having friends so important to most people?

LonesomeLoser

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I don't understand why having friends is so important to most people, and that if you have no friends there's something "wrong" with you. I have no friends. There are people I talk to at work and I don't count them as friends. I have come to realize that all my life I have only seen people as a means to an end, but when I was younger (I'm 35) I didn't know how to put it into words. Even if I enjoy someone's company, they are a means to an end. I am using them to make me feel good. The end result is always how I feel. I have had friends in the past, and I found it inconvenient because eventually I would do something they didn't like or vice versa. I would have to "compromise" and do things I didn't always feel like doing. I don't think there is anything "wrong" with me just because I have made the rational decision that if I have to take the bad times with the good times when it comes to having friends, that I would rather not have either. I don't think there is anything "wrong" with making the rational decision to pass up any good times with people, in order to avoid the bad times. It's just a matter of priorities. To most people I guess, the good times are a higher priority so the bad times are worth it. To me, avoiding things the feel unpleasant as much as humanly possible is my highest priority in life. To me there isn't anything "wrong" with having made that rational decision.
 

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Humans are a social species. We need to be around others of our kind to be happy. It is simply the way we are. I actually don't know of any primates that are solitary.

Edit: That's what I get for not bothering to do any research :p
 
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pLaYtHiNg

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I can relate. It's not that I don't like people, (although I admit, that I do think the majority of people in my area are bubble-headed and not worth interacting with). I have a few close friends, that I see when the mood strikes me. They ALWAYS want to see me way more often than I want to see them.

I am deeply introverted and highly selective over who I interact with. I know that seems arrogant, but that's the truth. I am kind to passers-by and whatnot, but usually... I just like to be alone.

Maxtro, you are correct in that humans are a social species, but not the only primate that are "introverted" or "loners". Orangutans are primarily solitary primates, usually only getting together to mate. Although they can be socialized, their nature is a predominantly solitary lifestyle.

I do agree that people, like any other "Pack" or "Herd" animal needs to be around others in order to feel normal and happy. I would probably lose my mind if I were the only person on the planet! LOL :)
 

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I have a similar view. There is a romantic idea of friendship that people seem to get off on. If you take away the sugar coating, friendship is more of an agreement between two or more people to meet needs that one person can't meet to a certain degree on their own. The problem I have with friendships is that most people use them as an excuse to "hang out" which is just another word for passing time. People don't like to be bored. The thing is, a majority of the time you pass with your friends, you could be increasing your value as a person: spiritually, physically, and mentally. Unfortunately, having a couple of beers with the guys a few nights a week just isn't a good way to do that.
You should pick your friends like you pick your girlfriends. Make sure you are getting a good deal before you commit to anything.
 
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Why have friends?

Because drinking by yourself isn't nearly as fun.
 

ChrizZ

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I don't care about friends. People are boring as fvck. I have 0 guy friends. Sure, I have some golfing buddies, but I wouldn't consider them friends. I see friends as a waste of time.

I do, however have about 30 girls I could call up to party.

The truth is the vast majority of guys try to befriend you cuz they are too scared to talk to girls so they hope to get invited to parties so they kiss your a$$.
 

Hughman

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'Friends' are overated true, but I think it's healthy to have a few guys you can always depend on.
 

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Hughman said:
'Friends' are overated true, but I think it's healthy to have a few guys you can always depend on.
Think of friends as more of having someone to hang out with and do fun activities with rather than someone you can depend on. Only depend on yourself.

Not having friends can be a positive if you use your free time alone to improve yourself or engage in activities. For example you can approach girls, play sports, learn new hobbies, hiking, read, study and cultivate your self or just take the car or bus and go explore places.

Not having friends can be a negative if it means you staying home and spending your free time alone watching porn, playing video games, browsing the net or watching youtube etc etc.

The only people that complain about not having friends are those that are not happy because they don't live active/productive lives so they end up bored and feeling lonely. You won't feel that as much if you are improving yourself or having fun on your own. The first step most of the time is just getting in the car or bus and just going somewhere. That is the most difficult step for many it seems...

The other problem is that people are lazy and they rather stay in the house watching porn than going out by themselves and doing something. They don't want to be seen alone. How I wish i could travel back in time and instead of browsing the net for hrs and hrs I would have instead taken the bus to do bowling, shoot pool, basketball etc. Basically all the stuff I do now that I didn't used to do before for being lazy and staying home browsing the net.

Right now you browsing this forum is wasting your life away when you could be living it. We are all guilty of it.
 

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f283000 said:
Think of friends as more of having someone to hang out with and do fun activities with rather than someone you can depend on. Only depend on yourself.

Not having friends can be a positive if you use your free time alone to improve yourself or engage in activities. For example you can approach girls, play sports, learn new hobbies, hiking, read, study and cultivate your self or just take the car or bus and go explore places.

Not having friends can be a negative if it means you staying home and spending your free time alone watching porn, playing video games, browsing the net or watching youtube etc etc.

The only people that complain about not having friends are those that are not happy because they don't live active/productive lives so they end up bored and feeling lonely. You won't feel that as much if you are improving yourself or having fun on your own. The first step most of the time is just getting in the car or bus and just going somewhere. That is the most difficult step for many it seems...

The other problem is that people are lazy and they rather stay in the house watching porn than going out by themselves and doing something. They don't want to be seen alone. How I wish i could travel back in time and instead of browsing the net for hrs and hrs I would have instead taken the bus to do bowling, shoot pool, basketball etc. Basically all the stuff I do now that I didn't used to do before for being lazy and staying home browsing the net.

Right now you browsing this forum is wasting your life away when you could be living it. We are all guilty of it.
So true :up:
 

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Lonesome Loser, I dont understand WHY you want to know WHY.
If youre truly happy, content, and your needs are met, you'll be fine and healthy.


Is it because you're tired of people judging you as weird or creepy?

Is it because you want to manipulate something else out of them that you cant get right now??

Sociopaths are usually disconnected from their humanity, and others' humanity. In fact, many who have delusions about their magnificence look down with contempt at humans.
Do you feel like that?
 

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look you can be perfectly content with being alone. Knowing how to take care of yourself when you're alone is a great thing. Knowing what you're doing with your life is also great, you still need social interaction. You got your shallow friends and then you have the really close friends you'd take a bullet for. Of course not everyone is like this. Why try and justify something that has no clear answer? There is no right or wrong, just a simple difference.
 

LonesomeLoser

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Interceptor said:
Is it because you're tired of people judging you as weird or creepy?
Yes. I actually think of myself as smarter than most people because I see the pointlessness of life and choose to just sit this life out. My attitude toward life is "can we just get this over with?" I see nothing worth fighting for, struggling for, suffering for, striving for, living for or dying for. The one thing that has come close to something I find worth striving for is my ultimate Oneitis, the one I have never (in about 15 years) entirely gotten over. But I've given up on that too. It's not worth it, nothing is. Just drift through life and hope that when I die my consciousness just goes POOF and I never have to experience anything ever again. I would rather never experience anything ever again, than experience anything unpleasant ever again.
 

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I wish I can just let you hop on in my old 98 Impreza, get some starbucks, and go to this place where I always drive at on my day off past midnight. The place is amazing. It's a two lane road in the middle of nowhere full of trees and mountains. Driving in the dark lets you see only what the car's headlights can reach. It's completely quiet except for the sound of the engine. Not much of a straight line, lots of turns. I'm basically shifting every 3 to 5 seconds going 50 to 70 miles per hour. It's scary sometimes because you're out there alone, no cars at all and sometimes I'm afraid the car would just die on me. I'd remember sometimes all the scariest movies I've ever watched and for a second I thought I just saw someone behind the trees. There's the part where I have to make a U turn which means I have to slow down and I just panic and as soon as I make the turn I step on it right away all scared. I got out one time and peed. I swear I'll never do that again. No one attacked me or anything but all the hair in my body was standing up from all the sound I was hearing. The wind blowing and the leaves moving. This is one of the many reasons I love living. I just had to share it with you because it seems to me that you believe life is boring. It's all in your perspective. What's a thrill for me may not be a thrill for you.

Anyways about having friends. I believe it's one of the greatest thing out there if you can find ones that are just absolutely cool, honest, and nice, down, good people that just love being around you that you love being around with. I don't have a lot of friends but I've had lots before when I used to skateboard a lot. I have 1 right now that is a coworker of mine that I hang out with at Barnes and Noble and play basketball with at the park a lot. It's a beautiful thing to have a friend like him.

I've been a loner all my life almost and the only reason was I'm not happy with many things in my life, my situation which I always look at negatively that I used as an excuse not to make friends. Now I'm learning each day how to enjoy and love life with or without friends. When I found out about this site and learned that I can change and that I don't have to live the life that I used to have that's when everything changed for me. The skinny body I used to have, the female mentality that I used to have, the blaming, and whining, and complaining about my life all changed for the better when I learned that everything is in my control and change if I wanted to. The grades that I was getting. The Fs and the Cs, my salary. I thought everyone was smarter than me and I was going to be stupid for the rest of my life. It turns out that the kid next to me was just studying more than I was and was more discipline than I was and I was not fixed as in I was going to be a loser all my life. I can change and I have. I'm very happy.

Hopefully if you read or skimmed somewhere down everything I wrote that I was able to hit the spot. Maybe just a little, but that's just enough. The road to change is one step at a time. :rock:
 

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f283000 said:
Think of friends as more of having someone to hang out with and do fun activities with rather than someone you can depend on. Only depend on yourself.

Not having friends can be a positive if you use your free time alone to improve yourself or engage in activities. For example you can approach girls, play sports, learn new hobbies, hiking, read, study and cultivate your self or just take the car or bus and go explore places.

Not having friends can be a negative if it means you staying home and spending your free time alone watching porn, playing video games, browsing the net or watching youtube etc etc.

The only people that complain about not having friends are those that are not happy because they don't live active/productive lives so they end up bored and feeling lonely. You won't feel that as much if you are improving yourself or having fun on your own. The first step most of the time is just getting in the car or bus and just going somewhere. That is the most difficult step for many it seems...

The other problem is that people are lazy and they rather stay in the house watching porn than going out by themselves and doing something. They don't want to be seen alone. How I wish i could travel back in time and instead of browsing the net for hrs and hrs I would have instead taken the bus to do bowling, shoot pool, basketball etc. Basically all the stuff I do now that I didn't used to do before for being lazy and staying home browsing the net.

Right now you browsing this forum is wasting your life away when you could be living it. We are all guilty of it.
Exactly. I can amuse myself quite happily without needing to be around people, but if I'm looking for a fun party then I like to have people i know around me (helps with social proof, but if I'm having fun, I don't need it - the paradox of the Game, huh?)

As for wasting my life on here, well, yes, I am. I have exams coming up, so nothing social is happening, and I'm not 18.
 
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LonesomeLoser said:
Yes. I actually think of myself as smarter than most people because I see the pointlessness of life and choose to just sit this life out. My attitude toward life is "can we just get this over with?" I see nothing worth fighting for, struggling for, suffering for, striving for, living for or dying for. The one thing that has come close to something I find worth striving for is my ultimate Oneitis, the one I have never (in about 15 years) entirely gotten over. But I've given up on that too. It's not worth it, nothing is. Just drift through life and hope that when I die my consciousness just goes POOF and I never have to experience anything ever again. I would rather never experience anything ever again, than experience anything unpleasant ever again.

I get it now. You're just venting because nobody wants to hang out with you. Cheer up, man. Smile more often.
 

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awwww... you can hang out with me, loser. except when we're around people, im going to pretend i don't know you
 
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piranha45 said:
awwww... you can hang out with me, loser. except when we're around people, im going to pretend i don't know you
I just put in my Alltell top 5.
 
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