brosnake
Don Juan
(This post was inspired by backbreaker's Courge=Freedom post)
There was a time in my life where I would sit home on a Friday night and cry.
Actually, let's back up. I was the token chubby kid in school that was constantly picked on. My grades were outstanding but my social life (especially with women) was non-existant. I went to one school dance in four years of high school. I had a (singular) girlfriend for all of two weeks. About 8 months after we dated she came out of the closet and informed everyone she was a lesbian and was now dating a female. That was not a confidence booster. When my PE class ran the mile, I always came in last. I think I could do a mile in 18 minutes back then. I remember this popular dude at my school would lap me as he was running the mile, after he passed me, he would turn around to run backwards and call me a fag.
I was incredibly shy. I lacked the confidence to hold an interaction with any person, let alone a woman. If a woman did randomly talk to me (I would never dream of approaching one), I began nervous literally to the point of shaking and sweating profusely. The only solace I found was at my computer screen, usually on IRC chatting with other nerds. Most of the thoughts that dominated my days were incredibly negative. The worst part of all of this however, was that my ego was so fvcking big that I refused to admit to myself that I had a problem. I thought the world was wrong and that I was right.
I completed my college degree in three years and never in that time did I have a girlfriend. I had one sexual encounter with a drunk UG. I couldn't even get it up to perform because she was so narlie. I would also like to note that only a handful of people that I knew had (or ever had) been in a relationship. One Saturday night I was sitting at my computer, eating potato chips, and I had what the drunks call a 'moment of clarity.' I realized that maybe, JUST MAYBE, I wasn't a complete person after all. So I searched the Internet for dating advice and I found David D.
I read and re-read his e-book. It still took me 2 months to actually get up the nerve to talk to a girl. Right before I went to approach my body felt sick. The pain was intense and real. My ego was still trying to protect itself from the harsh realities of this world. My ego (through my body) was trying to sabotage me from getting laid. I remember that first cold approach.
Me: Hey what's up?
Her: Ummmmmmm. I'm waiting for my boyfriend. Ummmm I gotta go. (almost runs away).
I realized I was going to need some more practice. So I went out to meet women. Four or five nights a week I would be at a bar or party or club. I started talking to girls. I tried to be ****y&funny like David D advised. My success was limited because I didn't know what to do after the ****y&funny part. I would stand there and say some ballsy sh1t and the girls would be intrigued a little, yet they soon realized that it was all a front. I had no concept of rapport. Girls would ask my "buying" questions (Where are you from? What's your name?) and I would just keep spouting out ****y sh1t. I'm not a ****y a**hole, that's not congruent to me and my personality. Girls saw through me as clear as I could. Don't get me wrong here, the stuff David D says besides the c&f crap was gold. He shattered my reality, in fact, the first 100 pages of his e-book are primarily focused on transforming you from an AFC to a Man. I'm very glad I read it even though it wasn't exactly one size fit all (like he claims).
So I found ASF. They talked about memorizing scripts. They talked about higher value and eliciting values and lowering values and AMOGs and frames and NLP and hypnosis and all of this crazy sh1t. It reminded me a lot of the computer programming algorithms I used at work. Glorious terms and technical jargon I could use to pinpoint my frustrations! These guys were obviously nerds like me. I would bet money Mystery played EverQuest, but I digress.
*REAL LIFE PICK-UPS*
Me: Hey do you guys know 80s music?
HB: That's the worst pick-up line I've ever heard.
****
Me: Hey I think you're cute and I just wanted to talk to you.
HB: HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA (turns back)
****
Me: Hey what's up?
HB: (points to random dude at the bar, that's right just points and says NOTHING)
Although I learned a lot of good things from the ASF forums (there are some excellent archived posters there) something was still missing. I was incongruent as the ASF board likes to say. I then stumbled across the SoSuave message board and the DJ bible.
I read some posts from a guy named Pook. He wrote with clarity and creativity. When reading them one can tell the posts were inspired by his own personal revelations. To say they were life changing would be a misnomer. They did not change my life but rather gave me a second life. An entirely new and better life. I realized most of the stuff on ASF was just another form of supplication. These weren't REAL men of honor and integrity. These guys were emotional dildos taking any shape they needed to in order to bag that HB10. By keeping the focus always on yourself, one can never fail. By constantly improving and growing you can become that 'great catch' all of the ASF guys are trying to impersonate.
To be fair to ASF, my goals in the game are not to fvck as many chicks as possible. I know that's what a lot of dudes are trying to do and hey more power to you if you are one of those dudes. Personally, I just want a girl to myself so I can concentrate on things that I truly enjoy (like golf, computers, going to the gym, baseball, writing, cars, hanging out with my boys). This means that I have to date several girls simultaneously in order to see what's really out there on the market.
I'm on Anthony Ellis' Gaining Mass program. Before I bought this program, I had never lifted a single weight at a gym before (no hyperbole). Now I go to the gym three times a week and my diet is fantastic. I was 6', 210 lbs. Now I'm 6' 1" (not sure how that happened) 180 lbs of learn muscle. Now I get hit on when I go to the mall. I'm constantly catching girls checking me out. Hands off the merch girls! (Okay so I still use a David D line once in a while). All girls have to play by my rules now, thanks to Anti-Dump. He (and Pook) gave me a framework in which to operate. The Machine to the One. Its funny that while I never met or said a single word to either Pook or Anti-Dump they both helped me so tremendously that I feel like I know these guys. Pook does not post here anymore but if you are Pook and you happen to read this, thanks bro-- send me a PM so I can thank you personally for all of the posts you've written.
This post is getting long. Let me wrap it up by saying although Pook & Anti-Dump are gone there are still a lot of quality posters active on the board. Check Shezz, Krassus, A-Unit, Rollo Tomassi, STR8UP, E!RC L!VE, and many others.
Thanks for reading.
There was a time in my life where I would sit home on a Friday night and cry.
Actually, let's back up. I was the token chubby kid in school that was constantly picked on. My grades were outstanding but my social life (especially with women) was non-existant. I went to one school dance in four years of high school. I had a (singular) girlfriend for all of two weeks. About 8 months after we dated she came out of the closet and informed everyone she was a lesbian and was now dating a female. That was not a confidence booster. When my PE class ran the mile, I always came in last. I think I could do a mile in 18 minutes back then. I remember this popular dude at my school would lap me as he was running the mile, after he passed me, he would turn around to run backwards and call me a fag.
I was incredibly shy. I lacked the confidence to hold an interaction with any person, let alone a woman. If a woman did randomly talk to me (I would never dream of approaching one), I began nervous literally to the point of shaking and sweating profusely. The only solace I found was at my computer screen, usually on IRC chatting with other nerds. Most of the thoughts that dominated my days were incredibly negative. The worst part of all of this however, was that my ego was so fvcking big that I refused to admit to myself that I had a problem. I thought the world was wrong and that I was right.
I completed my college degree in three years and never in that time did I have a girlfriend. I had one sexual encounter with a drunk UG. I couldn't even get it up to perform because she was so narlie. I would also like to note that only a handful of people that I knew had (or ever had) been in a relationship. One Saturday night I was sitting at my computer, eating potato chips, and I had what the drunks call a 'moment of clarity.' I realized that maybe, JUST MAYBE, I wasn't a complete person after all. So I searched the Internet for dating advice and I found David D.
I read and re-read his e-book. It still took me 2 months to actually get up the nerve to talk to a girl. Right before I went to approach my body felt sick. The pain was intense and real. My ego was still trying to protect itself from the harsh realities of this world. My ego (through my body) was trying to sabotage me from getting laid. I remember that first cold approach.
Me: Hey what's up?
Her: Ummmmmmm. I'm waiting for my boyfriend. Ummmm I gotta go. (almost runs away).
I realized I was going to need some more practice. So I went out to meet women. Four or five nights a week I would be at a bar or party or club. I started talking to girls. I tried to be ****y&funny like David D advised. My success was limited because I didn't know what to do after the ****y&funny part. I would stand there and say some ballsy sh1t and the girls would be intrigued a little, yet they soon realized that it was all a front. I had no concept of rapport. Girls would ask my "buying" questions (Where are you from? What's your name?) and I would just keep spouting out ****y sh1t. I'm not a ****y a**hole, that's not congruent to me and my personality. Girls saw through me as clear as I could. Don't get me wrong here, the stuff David D says besides the c&f crap was gold. He shattered my reality, in fact, the first 100 pages of his e-book are primarily focused on transforming you from an AFC to a Man. I'm very glad I read it even though it wasn't exactly one size fit all (like he claims).
So I found ASF. They talked about memorizing scripts. They talked about higher value and eliciting values and lowering values and AMOGs and frames and NLP and hypnosis and all of this crazy sh1t. It reminded me a lot of the computer programming algorithms I used at work. Glorious terms and technical jargon I could use to pinpoint my frustrations! These guys were obviously nerds like me. I would bet money Mystery played EverQuest, but I digress.
*REAL LIFE PICK-UPS*
Me: Hey do you guys know 80s music?
HB: That's the worst pick-up line I've ever heard.
****
Me: Hey I think you're cute and I just wanted to talk to you.
HB: HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA (turns back)
****
Me: Hey what's up?
HB: (points to random dude at the bar, that's right just points and says NOTHING)
Although I learned a lot of good things from the ASF forums (there are some excellent archived posters there) something was still missing. I was incongruent as the ASF board likes to say. I then stumbled across the SoSuave message board and the DJ bible.
I read some posts from a guy named Pook. He wrote with clarity and creativity. When reading them one can tell the posts were inspired by his own personal revelations. To say they were life changing would be a misnomer. They did not change my life but rather gave me a second life. An entirely new and better life. I realized most of the stuff on ASF was just another form of supplication. These weren't REAL men of honor and integrity. These guys were emotional dildos taking any shape they needed to in order to bag that HB10. By keeping the focus always on yourself, one can never fail. By constantly improving and growing you can become that 'great catch' all of the ASF guys are trying to impersonate.
To be fair to ASF, my goals in the game are not to fvck as many chicks as possible. I know that's what a lot of dudes are trying to do and hey more power to you if you are one of those dudes. Personally, I just want a girl to myself so I can concentrate on things that I truly enjoy (like golf, computers, going to the gym, baseball, writing, cars, hanging out with my boys). This means that I have to date several girls simultaneously in order to see what's really out there on the market.
I'm on Anthony Ellis' Gaining Mass program. Before I bought this program, I had never lifted a single weight at a gym before (no hyperbole). Now I go to the gym three times a week and my diet is fantastic. I was 6', 210 lbs. Now I'm 6' 1" (not sure how that happened) 180 lbs of learn muscle. Now I get hit on when I go to the mall. I'm constantly catching girls checking me out. Hands off the merch girls! (Okay so I still use a David D line once in a while). All girls have to play by my rules now, thanks to Anti-Dump. He (and Pook) gave me a framework in which to operate. The Machine to the One. Its funny that while I never met or said a single word to either Pook or Anti-Dump they both helped me so tremendously that I feel like I know these guys. Pook does not post here anymore but if you are Pook and you happen to read this, thanks bro-- send me a PM so I can thank you personally for all of the posts you've written.
This post is getting long. Let me wrap it up by saying although Pook & Anti-Dump are gone there are still a lot of quality posters active on the board. Check Shezz, Krassus, A-Unit, Rollo Tomassi, STR8UP, E!RC L!VE, and many others.
Thanks for reading.
