What Clubs are really for! By The Player (Gold Tip)

[PeterNorthisawesome]

Found this article online and he def knows what he's talking about...

Many people have gotten the wrong idea about clubs, and consider them to be the pinnacle in terms of places to meet women. This is a myth, clubs actually rank very far down on the list of places to pick up women, however they do serve an equally effective purpose that many men fail to consider when coming up with their dating "game plan".

You should always consider clubs as "training camp". They are great places to practice because of many reasons, but are also not the best place to pick up babes... many other places such as the beach, stores, starbucks, colleges, theme parks etc. all beat out clubs if you are looking to be successful in pulling diamonds, and quite frankly... the women that frequent clubs are far from being girlfriend/wife material when looked at as a whole.

*Quick life-saving tip* : Always wear rubbers when you bang a girl that you pulled from a club, especially if she seemed very comfortable in there. Who knows who she went home with last week, or the week before that, and before that... you get the idea.

Your success rate is much lower at clubs, girls put all of their "shields" up before they even step foot in them... they are expecting to get approached by 50 guys before the night is over, and they will be turning down 49 of those guys.

Those aren't good odds.

However, like I said before... clubs are by far the best places to practice, mainly because :

- You WILL get shot down... alot. This helps you build up that "thick skin" that is required to because a good player. The best players in the world all understand that they will always, no matter how good their game is, get shot down more than they will succeed... it's all part of the game. The best way to prepare yourself for this (and eliminate your fear of rejection in the process) is to get rejected many times in the least stressful way possible (at clubs) so you can build up an "immunity" to it. Think of it like getting a flu vaccine at the doctors, they shoot you up with a weak version of the flu so they you will have built up a resistance to it by the time the real thing comes along... and your body simply shrugs it off. Practicing at clubs helps your mind "shrug off" rejection when it happens it more important situations.

- Chances are that you'll never see the girls again in your life, so being rejected by a girl at a club means little when compared to getting rejected by a girl at your work or school. It will not haunt you. If you were to get turned down by a girl at your work that will potentially destroy your chances with any of the other girls you work with simply because if one girl says no... all of they other girls MUST follow because if they did not and actually hooked up with you it would be like them saying "I'm not as good as the girl that turned him down". Girls are way too competitive and proud to do that.

- There are LOTS of girls at clubs, usually so many that you can effectively game 10+ every hour if you apply yourself correctly. You can raise your game to a whole new level in just one night of heavy practice in a club and literally walk out a new, better man. Practicing at clubs is to your game as shooting steroids is to your muscles... it's almost like cheating it works so good. Disclaimer : Don't do drugs... that was just a metaphor

- Like I said before, girl's have their defenses up at clubs... making it much harder to penetrate their barriers than usual. This means you must work even harder to pull them than usual... which helps your game grow. If you practice at clubs on a regular basis you will become accustomed to girls being hard to open... which is great because once you go somewhere else like the beach and spit some game, everything seems very easy. It kind of like how baseball players put a weight on their bat while they are "on deck" so the bat feels super light when they step up to the plate... same principals here.

- Clubs are dark, smoky and loud... which is not the perfect atmosphere to be gaming in because you can not hear very well and neither can the girls you will be approaching, this means you will constantly need to lean in so she can hear you which is a sign of insecurity by basic body language principals... by leaning in it displays that you view the girl as higher social status than yourself. However, on the other hand that same atmosphere that makes it harder to hear makes it easy to go unnoticed, which makes rejection not as harsh. If you were to get turned down by a girl in line at the supermarket... chances are everyone can see a hear what is happening, which will make you very uncomfortable and possibly do damage to your self image. At a club you have almost a 0% chance of other people even noticing at all, which puts alot less stress on yourself.

Well there you have it, a breakdown of what purpose clubs really serve in the dating game... they are practice, not the super bowl.

The Player

 

[PeterNorthisawesome]

So what u guys think? Was it good advice or did it suck?

 

[Kev07]

Well it's pretty basic info.

If you're gona club you shouldn't bother talking to much, save that for bars.

If you go to a club, dance your ass off and you will get a girl.

 

[DJ1234]

At a club you have almost a 0% chance of other people even noticing at all, which puts alot less stress on yourself.

I agree with just about everything except that you have 0% chance that other people would notice of you getting rejected, ive seen b****** make a scene at a club and get all defensive in front of everyone and you when you get rejected.. but other than that its a pretty good article and basic info. Basically if you're at a club to really get women you should isolate them from the club as it isnt a good place to enviornment to pick up...

 

[diizy]

Well it's pretty basic info.

If you're gona club you shouldn't bother talking to much, save that for bars.

If you go to a club, dance your ass off and you will get a girl.

Agreed.

This post was relatively dumb too, this is a much much better club-related post.

 

[PeterNorthisawesome]

Social Proof:

For most guys, meeting girls at clubs is difficult for them.

So they prefer to meet girls at bookstores, malls, coffee shops, and other daytime “low pressure” venues.

But meeting girls at clubs can actually be far EASIER than at daytime venues.

I know that can sound counterintuitive. After all, at a club you have to deal with loud music that can be difficult to talk over, distracting lights, competition from other guys, and girls with their “shields” up.

Worse still, if you go alone you don’t know anyone else while it looks like everyone else is having fun.

Even if you go with your friends they’re typically no help either because all they do is stand immobilized by hesitation with a beer at their chest – and know next to nothing about picking up girls.

Has the following ever happened to you?

You walk into the club, checking out how “good” it is.

You walk around the entire club to check it out. You don’t know anyone, and you don’t have anything to do, so you walk around again checking out all the girls.

You get bored. Perhaps you get a drink. You walk over to the dance floor and stare at it.

Of course, 50 other guys are also staring at the dance floor.

Like a master bed in the center of a master bedroom, the dance floor commands attention. It is very hypnotic.

You nurse your beer and eventually decide to walk around the club again.

Nothing happens so you decide that the club “sucks” and then you eventually leave to find a better place.

Of course, you do the very same thing at the very next place you visit.

I used to do this ALL the time. It sucked because it never got me anywhere.

The problem is, this kind of behavior is the exact OPPOSITE of what you want to do, because by wandering around you convey certain negative information to girls that shoots down your chances before you even make an approach.

When you circle around a club, women NOTICE that you’re alone. Most won’t label you a “lone psycho” but they’ve make a mental note that you’re alone – and therefore lack any social value.

Women give you social value by how hot the women and men you’re with are.

But most guys walk around the entire club multiple times alone, collecting NEGATIVE social value the entire time.

Think about it. When you FIRST walk into the club, the girls know NOTHING about you. You could be Justin Timberlake’s best friend for all they know.

This is your chance to shape their blank impression of you.

But what do most guys do?

They instantly go about setting a NEGATIVE impression of themselves – by walking around the room and staring at the dance floor. This is what ALL the guys who have no social value do.

So then, if and when you do approach a hot girl, she lacks interest in you because she’s already categorized you – thanks to YOUR actions.

Thus, most guys give up on clubs because they’re “too hard”.

But it’s not that clubs are “too hard”. It’s that you’re doing them all wrong.

Making clubs work for you is easy. In fact, meeting hot girls at clubs is EASIER than at other places. And you can make them work just as well as if you go with friends or if you go alone. You just have to know what to do.

Here are the steps I use with great success.

When you first walk into the club, SMILE. A lot of women watch the door to size up the guys coming in. Remember, as you walk in you’re social status is a BLANK SLATE and you want to be immediately shaping a good first impression.

As soon as you’re in, OPEN the first available set of girls or set of girls and guys. Don’t look for a lone girl, you won’t find her. You’ll want to open a set of two of girls or a guy and a girl which are much easier to find.

There. It immediately looks like you have friends. It doesn’t matter if the set goes particularly well – other women will notice that you’re with other girls.

Other girls will immediately peg you with social value – because they have no idea that you’ve only just met these girls.

Remember, GIRLS JUDGE YOUR SOCIAL VALUE BY THE OTHER GIRLS YOU’RE WITH.

So as long as they see you talking with other girls, they will mentally note this and be more open to talking with you themselves. This is not a conscious process, just something that girls do automatically without thinking about it.

So you open your first group of girls RIGHT AWAY. The conversation doesn’t have to go well, all you’re doing is collecting social proof. If the first group begins to stall, just turn to the set of girls next to you and open them. They’ll be much more likely to talk with you because they've already seen you talking to other girls.

You can even join the groups by saying, “Hey ladies, my friends here were just talking about such-and-such… what’s your opinion on that?”

ALWAYS be talking to a group of girls. Jump from group to group. By the time you’ve worked yourself through 45 minutes of talking to girls, ALL the girls in the immediate vicinity will know that you have social value. They will read you as being social, attractive, and hot.

If you build up enough social value this way, you can just walk up to the hottest girl in the club and say, “Give me your number,” and she will give it to you.

Here are three guidelines you’ll want to follow:

First, avoid looking at the dance floor like the plague. The dance floor is naturally hypnotic and will naturally draw you in. DO NOT LOOK AT IT. There is nothing there. It is an illusion. Looking at the dance floor only generates NEGATIVE social proof for you.

Second, avoid walking around. You only look a like a valueless loner when you do this. Also, if you’ve built up any positive social proof in one corner of the club, you’ll lose it all if you move to another corner.

Third, avoid the noisiest areas of the club. Find the quietest area where it’s easiest to talk and plant yourself there. You don’t want to be yelling over ear-breaking noise and most clubs do have a quiet corner or two.

Also, it’s quite alright to go to clubs alone. Why? BECAUSE YOU WON’T BE ALONE FOR LONG. Within 5 to 10 minutes of being in the club you should be talking to someone.

Look at the whole club scene as one of collecting social proof points. In this particular moment, are you talking to a set of girls and collecting points? Or are you staring at the dance floor alone, losing points?

Remember, you walk into the club with zero social proof points, with a clean slate. Everything you do will either up your status or lower it. Everything you do signals women to categorize you as a “loner” or as a “sexy guy”.