Tazman said:
If you understand the use of the term as a metaphor, why would you then say it's stupid
Stupid is probably too strong a word. It just rubs me the wrong way.
I see the metaphor, but I think it is overstated and too overly dramatic.
To me, it conjures up images of "Look at me, I have super powers because I know something you don't know".
A lot of people don't like the term alpha. I don't mind the term alpha, at least it's based on an actual thing. People don't like the term alpha because it's overused. I think the problem with the term alpha is that it's used incorrectly. An alpha is a leader or the physically dominating male. Guys here use it to describe any confident guy, or a guy who does what he wants, or a guy who isn't afraid to talk to women.
Jophil28 said:
To us middle aged farts, there is no Epiphany- rather perhaps a fine tuning or an affirmation of our ingrained cultural beliefs that always drove us
Interesting. I had thought the reason there was no epiphany for me was because of my age, because I had a lifetime of experience with women. What could surprise me? You're saying it's because we were actually raised in a different environment - a more male friendly culture. That may well have something to do with it.
Boilermaker said:
As it happens after every paradigm shift, there will always be people who will claim the discovery is "obvious"
You're putting words in my mouth. I never said everything that is taught here is "obvious", although a lot of it is. As I said, there are a lot of useful tips here. I just don't think anything here reaches the level of a revelation or an epiphany. There are very few concepts I've found in the pickup community that I haven't heard or read somewhere else.
Boilermaker said:
You were around my age when the seduction community flourished and opened millions of men's eyes, why didn't you chip in and share your wisdom if this was so bloody obvious to you all your life?
I don't think I even had a computer when I was 25. I had a word processor.
The point is I came here when I was 48, I think. Too late for it too have that big of an impact on me. I wish I would have come here when I was 25, I'm sure it would have made a bigger difference for me. It probably would have saved me from learning a lot of these lessons by making my own mistakes.
And at 25 I had nowhere near the value as a man that I have now. I was still working on it. And I didn't have a forum or the internet to help me along. If you didn't have this forum, Boilermaker, I doubt very much that you would be a blind lost puppy. When you are in your 20s, you work on improving yourself, and you learn about life. I think that's what your 20s are all about.
Honestly, I don't really consider myself part of the seduction community anyway. I just like this message board and find the subject matter interesting. I don't think I've ever tried to present myself as some sort of super stud. I don't even have any aspirations to be a pickup artist.
I have a girlfriend that I've lived with for eight years, who I am very happy with. I'm not looking to become some sort of pimp. I just have nearly a full lifetime worth of experience with women, that's where my insight comes from.