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Two of the most basic DJ rules

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1) Men's purpose in life is not women. It is something else. Find it, do it. Women are the distraction, preferably a pleasant one.

2) Women's purpose in life is to find a good man and procreate, have a family. Her career/job is just a distraction from that purpose.

Because we got these two all mixed up, we find a lot of problems between men and women nowadays. We have men who make their relationship their life purpose (like me about a 1 year ago) and it never ends up well and we have women who wanna make a career and think that is going to make them happy. It doesn't, neither side. We need to get back to the basics.

A good relationship, if you ask me about it? A man following his life purpose everyday, with passion + a woman that has her own interests, but does not confuse their importancy and is there to support her man.
 

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Yep, woman was made for man, not man for woman...Society has this assbackwards.
 
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I disagree that women distract themselves with careers. I see it much more as an insurance policy for them.

Women know just as well as men do that divorce rates are high these days. Regardless of the reasons, I think most women realize that the odds some man will come along and fend for them until they are 99 years old is pretty much slim to none. They know the odds are likely that at some point they will have to work to make ends meet in the event of a divorce.

Now I know a lot of guys will say that her getting half of your sh1t in a divorce is their "insurance policy", but that is only true if the guy is actually worth something. A woman is not going to live on half of a man's sh1t if he's making 40K/yr and renting (and neither is he). She is going to have to work. Any woman with half a brain in her head will realize it's not a good idea to end up divorced at 35-40 years old with a kid or two in tow while looking for their first job after 10-20 years of unemployment.

This generally means that the only women who won't focus so much on a career these days are much more likely to be the type of women who focus more on finding a man with money.

A woman who doesn't either find a man with money or have a solid career of her own (or can achieve both) is a woman taking a huge gamble, as they are most likely going to find themselves alone, middle-aged, wrinkled and broke with little or nothing to offer to a quality man who is available that late in life.

Personally, I'm forgetting the whole dynamic of the 1950's atomic family. It's dead. It's never coming back.
I'm out there looking for women who make more money than I do, and I'm already over $100K/yr.
Why do you care how much money a girl makes?
 

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I find women with successful careers leverage their success to marry up for even wealthier status (real or perceived). If the man's career takes a tumble, she's less likely to stick around and will re-open her options for branch swinging to a better prospect.

Ergo, if her wealth status is high, the man has to be just as high or better and be able to maintain that status to keep her hooked. This is the pressure cooker for guys who wealth or success doesn't come easy or is difficult to maintain. I think the women who are the breadearners wear the pants and may use that power to control and manipulate the significant other to get what she wants.

I think that in her eyes that's probably fine for a time, yet she gets bored of having all the power and may stray for a challenge that she finds worthy of her.

Interested to see what other DJs thoughts/feedback on this phenomena.
 

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A good relationship, if you ask me about it? A man following his life purpose everyday, with passion + a woman that has her own interests, but does not confuse their importancy and is there to support her man.
I concur. The main lie of feminism is denial of the female desire for procreation and family. And the secondary lie that women do not "NEED" a man. Now in a factual sense a woman may not NEED a man in modern society. But most women (if they are emotionally healthy) certainly WANT one. It is the denial of this desire that is the problem.

I find women with successful careers leverage their success to marry up for even wealthier status (real or perceived). If the man's career takes a tumble, she's less likely to stick around and will re-open her options for branch swinging to a better prospect.

Ergo, if her wealth status is high, the man has to be just as high or better and be able to maintain that status to keep her hooked. This is the pressure cooker for guys who wealth or success doesn't come easy or is difficult to maintain. I think the women who are the breadearners wear the pants and may use that power to control and manipulate the significant other to get what she wants.

I think that in her eyes that's probably fine for a time, yet she gets bored of having all the power and may stray for a challenge that she finds worthy of her.

Interested to see what other DJs thoughts/feedback on this phenomena.
I wanted to comment on this @resilient since I have been in such a situation.

So long as a man remains masculine in the relationship it is possible to lead a woman who has experienced greater success financially than he has. The problem is that is takes a man with extremely solid inner game to be able to hold frame in such a situation.

I do know of a couple of marriages where this is the case. The one that comes immediately to mind is a colleague of mine who makes a six figure income in my same field who is married to a woman for 25 years who has risen to be a mergers and acquisitions specialist who makes twice to thrice what he makes. At the outset of the marriage he was the higher earner. Now she is. He still unequivocally wears the pants in that relationship and they are very happy together.

In my own marriage things fell apart due to my ex husband's ABDICATION of the male role, the leadership role in the marriage. My story is elsewhere on SS so no need to rehash. No woman like me is going to stand by and watch her whole life fall apart because her husband decides he wants to quit on himself. Rather she is going to stand in the gap and hold things together if she can. And the fact that in so doing she has to assume the leadership role, the masculine role in the relationship is what rots it from the inside out. And THIS is what builds the resentment. In my marriage the issue was laziness...I have a girlfriend where the issue was alcoholism on the part of her ex husband. She divorced the alcoholism much like I divorced the laziness.

A woman like myself is going to look for a more successful man to go out with. It's not in my case about moving up socially or any of that. It's that a man who is himself successful has learned how to be a successful person with all the skill sets and thinking that comes with building success, it is less the success itself. Material success is merely the outward expression of internal development and self actualization. It's evidence if you will. Much like my success indicates that I am a self sufficient woman who doesn't need financial support (which many men are understandably loathe to give, especially if they had a nasty experience in family court.) By the same token I have no desire to be a sugar mama for a man (and trust me there are smooth talking playboys out there who are absolutely looking for this sort of arrangement.)
 
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