Don Juan de la Nuce
Don Juan
Okay, bugsquish's recent thread about casual sex relationships inspired me to muse about a riddle which is a recurring theme for me, and I wondered how I might get some more input about it.
Therefore I decided to post it seperately (outside of his post, where it already is, sorry...).
His post can be reviewed here:
http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35706&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
What follows is the general body of my musings and at the end, a couple of questions:
This thread has inspired an epiphany of sorts for me which has been waiting in the wings to be revealed (even to me... who would have guessed?)...
Actually, it's not so much of an epiphany as a grand dilemma, a sort of Riddle of the Dinx, if you will:
The underlying principle in the situation is this:
Typically in society, and most especially in romantic relationships, women always get their way, for they are more cunning, attract more empathy (from women and men alike), markedly act with less congruence to moral impetus from society, and even more impressively, women actually are so persuasive on the whole that they have campaigned to the extent that their will be made parrallel to the present paradigm of scruples the human race (or at least the modernized world) are subject to.
When you break it down to core desires from women and men and how they typically clash, it's pretty easy to see why I say that women almost always get their way.
So let's take a look:
What do most men want? Well, for that I refer to bulls and cows. And a good number of the rest of the animal kingdom, but not so much in detail as the former.
What about bulls and cows, you might ask (or if you are sharp enough, maybe you already know what I'm getting at)?
Well, put a cow in a bull's pen while they are both in heat, the bull will sleep with the cow once, and after that, never again. Only when you bring the bull fresh meat will he become randy again. Even if you spray fresh pheremones from a new cow on the old one the bull will not be fooled, he will only mate with a new cow.
If you want to read more about this, check the book at this link (you nerd...):
http://www.thei.aust.com/books97/bt...lhusbandry.html
Or for more background, learn about the related Coolidge Effect (yes, named after Calvin Coolidge, the prez) at this page:
http://www.uno.edu/~asoble/pages/bermant.htm
Why is this, you might ask? Well, I have a hypothesis which purports that for men, variety is the spice of life. This hypothesis is supported by evolution, survival of the fittest, propagation of species, all that crap you really don't care about anyway, right?
Basically, when trying to survive and make his bloodline continue, it is in any man's best interest to be as promiscuous and polygynous as possible (disregarding STD's of course, which are more of a recent concern). It's in our bones, the essence of our instinct to survive, ingrained in our DNA.
Of course you all understand that in evolution, adaption is a slow and often deadly process (better get your ass in gear bugsquish, before this woman kills you herself...), so STD's are not enough of an impetus yet for man to have adapted to that aspect of his enviroment enough for this to change his innate instinct enough to appease the modern woman (OK, unless he's a really good liar, but that usually doesn't last as long, because most men can't help but get caught up in their lies once their woman starts fact-checking, most men don't lie half as well as their more intuitive, fairer-halfs do).
Women were cursed (or blessed; if you're righteous, or stupid, pick one... or both, if you want, they go hand in hand) with the gift of pregnancy and child-rearing.
Therefore, it is in their best interest, ingrained in their DNA, the essence of survival of their bloodline, to be more monogamous than your common man. It is also a good thing if they can keep the man around who sired their offspring, for he may gather meat, make fire, defend threats, pay bills, let her go buy up some stuff, whatever she can use her cunning and wiles to manipulate him away from his natural path in life to instead do for her.
Now, if you still don't get it (dumbass) and you need me to spell out for you what I'm getting at, and why I say women always get what they want instead of the other way around, here you go (make sure and read really realllllly s-l-o-w...):
What would you say to a woman who is getting married?
Congratulations, probably, right?
If you are one of my slow readers, you're probably thinking something along the lines of, "Well I'd tell her fiancee the same thing... duh". If this applies, go to that voice inside your head, stand in front of it in your mind, and yell really loud: WOULD YOU SHUT THE F UP? JUST ONCE?
Alright, are we all quiet now? Good, class.
Now, the hard question is, what would you say to a man who tells you he is starting up a harem?
And what's so wrong with a harem that it should be illegal in the states anyways?
These two final questions are for your homework, class. I expect the answers on my desk by next Tuesday, at the latest.
Thank you and have a good day.
______________________
P.S. If my sarcasm offends you, please disregard it, with my apologies. I would hate for anyone to decide to forego a valid reply simply out of disgust for me.
Therefore I decided to post it seperately (outside of his post, where it already is, sorry...).
His post can be reviewed here:
http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35706&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
What follows is the general body of my musings and at the end, a couple of questions:
This thread has inspired an epiphany of sorts for me which has been waiting in the wings to be revealed (even to me... who would have guessed?)...
Actually, it's not so much of an epiphany as a grand dilemma, a sort of Riddle of the Dinx, if you will:
The underlying principle in the situation is this:
Typically in society, and most especially in romantic relationships, women always get their way, for they are more cunning, attract more empathy (from women and men alike), markedly act with less congruence to moral impetus from society, and even more impressively, women actually are so persuasive on the whole that they have campaigned to the extent that their will be made parrallel to the present paradigm of scruples the human race (or at least the modernized world) are subject to.
When you break it down to core desires from women and men and how they typically clash, it's pretty easy to see why I say that women almost always get their way.
So let's take a look:
What do most men want? Well, for that I refer to bulls and cows. And a good number of the rest of the animal kingdom, but not so much in detail as the former.
What about bulls and cows, you might ask (or if you are sharp enough, maybe you already know what I'm getting at)?
Well, put a cow in a bull's pen while they are both in heat, the bull will sleep with the cow once, and after that, never again. Only when you bring the bull fresh meat will he become randy again. Even if you spray fresh pheremones from a new cow on the old one the bull will not be fooled, he will only mate with a new cow.
If you want to read more about this, check the book at this link (you nerd...):
http://www.thei.aust.com/books97/bt...lhusbandry.html
Or for more background, learn about the related Coolidge Effect (yes, named after Calvin Coolidge, the prez) at this page:
http://www.uno.edu/~asoble/pages/bermant.htm
Why is this, you might ask? Well, I have a hypothesis which purports that for men, variety is the spice of life. This hypothesis is supported by evolution, survival of the fittest, propagation of species, all that crap you really don't care about anyway, right?
Basically, when trying to survive and make his bloodline continue, it is in any man's best interest to be as promiscuous and polygynous as possible (disregarding STD's of course, which are more of a recent concern). It's in our bones, the essence of our instinct to survive, ingrained in our DNA.
Of course you all understand that in evolution, adaption is a slow and often deadly process (better get your ass in gear bugsquish, before this woman kills you herself...), so STD's are not enough of an impetus yet for man to have adapted to that aspect of his enviroment enough for this to change his innate instinct enough to appease the modern woman (OK, unless he's a really good liar, but that usually doesn't last as long, because most men can't help but get caught up in their lies once their woman starts fact-checking, most men don't lie half as well as their more intuitive, fairer-halfs do).
Women were cursed (or blessed; if you're righteous, or stupid, pick one... or both, if you want, they go hand in hand) with the gift of pregnancy and child-rearing.
Therefore, it is in their best interest, ingrained in their DNA, the essence of survival of their bloodline, to be more monogamous than your common man. It is also a good thing if they can keep the man around who sired their offspring, for he may gather meat, make fire, defend threats, pay bills, let her go buy up some stuff, whatever she can use her cunning and wiles to manipulate him away from his natural path in life to instead do for her.
Now, if you still don't get it (dumbass) and you need me to spell out for you what I'm getting at, and why I say women always get what they want instead of the other way around, here you go (make sure and read really realllllly s-l-o-w...):
What would you say to a woman who is getting married?
Congratulations, probably, right?
If you are one of my slow readers, you're probably thinking something along the lines of, "Well I'd tell her fiancee the same thing... duh". If this applies, go to that voice inside your head, stand in front of it in your mind, and yell really loud: WOULD YOU SHUT THE F UP? JUST ONCE?
Alright, are we all quiet now? Good, class.
Now, the hard question is, what would you say to a man who tells you he is starting up a harem?
And what's so wrong with a harem that it should be illegal in the states anyways?
These two final questions are for your homework, class. I expect the answers on my desk by next Tuesday, at the latest.
Thank you and have a good day.
______________________
P.S. If my sarcasm offends you, please disregard it, with my apologies. I would hate for anyone to decide to forego a valid reply simply out of disgust for me.
