The Law of Attraction

[ChrizZ]

Does it work?

 

[WhitePimp]

Abso****inglutely.

 

[oakraiderz2]

Abso****inglutely.

And for those who think its hocus pocus, the psychology of it all is pretty much flawless.

 

[speakeasy]

I watched The Secret. I think some parts of it make sense, though I'm not sure about all the metaphysical stuff about the universe delivering what you call out for and all that stuff.

The Law of Attraction is nothing new, it's just a repackaging of "I think therefore I am."

 

[ExcelNPrevail]

Yes, it works. We all aren't separated lifeforms on the planet. We all are just a bunch of atoms connected to each other.

EX.When you type on a computer as soon as you hit the keys there is no division in between your finger and keys. Its all one with the other. (Not trying to sound hippish...)

But just don't chase things directly. And you'll be good.

 

[Mctwist4]

From Fred Alan Wolf's official website

Question: If you don't believe in the law of attraction what did you mean by "so you're maybe thinking 'that's very nice but, I can't do that or SHE won't let me do that or he'll never let me do that or I haven't got enough money to do that or I'm not stronge enough to do that or I'm not rich enough to do that or I'm not… I'm not… I'm not… I'm not… I'm not… I'm not… I'm not…' every single I'm not… is a creation."? If you don't believe in the law of attraction you obviously are talking about something else, what is that "thing"? Answer: There is a big difference between just thinking 1) "I want a big car" 2) "I am not good enough" or 3) "I am good" or 4) "I am ugly" or 5) "I am happy" and taking an appropriate action to do something about them. The LOA (Law of Attraction) seems to imply that merely thinking such thoughts will attract the object of those thoughts to you. I don't think the universe works this way. When you think those thoughts you tend to act according to them and those actions will attract you to those objects and modify your behavior accordingly. There is no magic field "out there" or magic genii "out there" that will answer those thoughts by granting your wishes as the film seems to imply. That magic field or genii is yourself.

Hence, for one example, suppose you fear being robbed. Your fear can provoke any number of actions on your part.

For example,

A) You don't go into neighborhoods that are poor wearing brightly colored gold jewelry.

B) You carelessly go wherever you wish to go and when you are in a crowd you tug at your gold watch or your wallet or jewelry just to make sure it's there because you are fearful. These actions tip off possible pickpockets. The probability of attracting thieves to you increases or decreases according to your behavior. The robbers watch you and many others and are attracted to "tuggers" regardless of how the tuggers are thinking. In fact a tugger might be thinking "I want to be secure so I'll check my watch or bracelet or wallet."

C) You go into a crowded arena and simply act alertly to suspicious movements around you.

Here is another example. Say you say to yourself "I will win the lottery today". In the LOA this will attract the winnings to you over others who don't wish this, right?

So you open your emails one day and find that indeed you receive a notice that your email address has just won a zillion bucks. You contact the mailer accordingly and find then to get your money you need to send them some money to cover "costs" or give your bank account information or SSN or something else. But you believe in the LOA, right? So you do this, and soon enough you find yourself ripped off by a scam. Oh, such scams are continually ongoing looking for believers in the LOA. Suppose you are such a believer. Now comes the LOA rationalization. "I must have really desired to be ripped off other wise this wouldn't have happened to me. I attracted the scam."

One of the presenters in the "secret" movie after appearing on the Larry King show was asked, "If you believe in the LOA why did you recently have a heart attack?" His answer? "I wanted to have this heart attack in order to slow down, I was working too hard." If you believe this, then you will always find a rationalization for whatever random events occur in your life. That is certainly not science, but is humans trying to deal with our indeterminant universe with hindsight. If something good happens, you will tell yourself "I was using the LOA to attract good." If something bad happens, you will say "I was using the LOA to attract something bad." Both are simple and very human rationalizations and in fact not based on any scientific fact or experiment and certainly not on quantum physics.

In the first example it is your behavior that that produces the possible theft or non-theft rather than the thought. Indeed the thought "I don't wish to be robbed" in case A or C keeps you safer than in case B. According to the LOA your fear will get you robbed because you have put out that field that attracts robbers to you. The same would hold to the thought "I don't want to get cancer." Or the thought " don't want to be raped." The LOA seems to imply that in these cases you attract cancer or rapists to yourself.

In the second example you get you into trouble by believing in the LOA, which when it fails, you rationalize through hindsight. In other words, you make the LOA work by simply denying it fails through hindsight rationalization. You say "I failed to get my goal because I was unconsciously wishing to fail." If you had succeeded you would have said "I got my goal because I was using the LOA." This is not scientific thinking and is not quantum physics.

In brief, people are attracted or repulsed by your behavior not your thoughts. Things are not. Stuff happens-- good and bad-- to all of us.

We all are born and we die. I believe that aside from the LOA each of us has a purpose on the planet and that the event of your birth is not an accident and that your death is not the end of the road. Finding your purpose in life may take years or decades, but you will eventually find it and act according to that purpose or frustrate yourself by doing what you really don't wish to do. The really big secret is not the LOA, it is the action that people who realize their purpose take in their lives. In every case where I have met successful people, I tend to find the happiest people are those who do what they enjoy doing. The richest people are those who do what benefits others. To be rich and happy do what you enjoy doing for the benefit of others and you can't fail to be rich and happy. It is absolutely guaranteed, provided you take right action.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

it only works if you use it to program your mind CORRECTLY with stuff you want where YOU ARE IN CONTROL of getting it. (As described in psychocybernetics.)

One of the drawbacks of the human brain is that because it sacrifices accuracy for speed, humans generally make a lot of cause/effect linkages that have no logical connection.

Fooled by Randomness is a good primer on the subject.

 

[slaog]

Does it work?

Yes it works. I believe in it 100%. Look at sport as an example. Some sports players are not as good as others but they always seem to win. They are called lucky etc but nobody mentions their winning mentality. They visualise themselves winning and that makes them more determined.


I used LOA to attract a certain type of woman into my life and my girlfriend is everything I was looking for. I'm now concentrating on other things too.


I recomment reading Michael Losier's law of attraction book. Feel free to send me a PM if anybody wants to know more.

 

[user43770]

Look at sport as an example. Some sports players are not as good as others but they always seem to win. They are called lucky etc but nobody mentions their winning mentality. They visualise themselves winning and that makes them more determined.

Examples, please.

 

[slaog]

Examples, please.

The examples are there for everybody to see. Take any sport and see who the top sports people are in that. They are at the top not by chance. All those people believed they could get to the top. They visualised themselves at the top, winning things.


Why is one person more determined then another? It's because that person strongly wants to achieve a dream.

 

[speakeasy]

The examples are there for everybody to see. Take any sport and see who the top sports people are in that. They are at the top not by chance. All those people believed they could get to the top. They visualised themselves at the top, winning things.

They are at the top for a number of reasons. For athletes at the level is partly genes, partly your environment and how you were raised, partly your coach, party your ambition. It's not just pure ambition. I could give it 110% and tha doesn't mean I'm going to be a top athlete. I just don't have the genetics for it.

 

[f283000]

positive thinking does work, just don't expect the ferrari and the lottery as your reward or anything you want like the secret movie makes it seem you can get.

 

[slaog]

They are at the top for a number of reasons. For athletes at the level is partly genes, partly your environment and how you were raised, partly your coach, party your ambition. It's not just pure ambition. I could give it 110% and tha doesn't mean I'm going to be a top athlete. I just don't have the genetics for it.

I'm not saying if you visualise yourself flying you will fly. Common sense is needed too.


It's what seperates the top athletes from others. You always hear about wasted talent etc etc. So ask yourself why do some people waste talent and their lives in general and others to well and achieve success.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

No.

Because the Law of Attraction is diametrically opposed, and inversely proportional to the Law of the Jinx. Thus they cancel one another out.

 

[ketostix]

I think there is some psychology behind thinking positive will help you perform better in life and it will attract positivity or induce positivity form others. But to say it's a law of attraction I think is a little extreme and might be confusing cause and effect. I mean, people who are successful or attractive are for a variety of reasons or triats. The Law of Attraction didn't cause it as much as it's an effect of being successful or having the traits of success. Thoughts and attitudes alone can only get you so far in a physical world.

 

[speakeasy]

You should check this out:

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Story?id=2975835&page=1

 

[slaog]

You should check this out:

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Story?id=2975835&page=1

An interesting article. The secret is a good introductio to the LOA but that is all. I think some people take things too literally and it's dangerous to be talking about curing cancer.


As I said, I'd recommend Michael Losier's book. The main difference between his book and the secret is that he says you cannot just wish for something and expect it to come along. You have to work on it every day. He also explains things more clearly then 'the secret'. He also ecplains that it's feelings that attract things to you. You cannot just say you want to have a girlfriend you need to feel like she is already there.


It's much easier to understand the science behind the secret if you see everything as energy. We are all energy. Everything physical is pure energy but it jusy appears physical to out senses. Atoms are just balls of energy and they are more then 99.99% empty. In quantum physics its proven that the mind can effect matter.


I understand when people say it's obvious that a positive mindset will make you do positive things and thats just because it's working on the inside. If you look beyond the "physical world" that we live in you will notice that it doesn't matter how the results are achieved the important thing is they are.


On this site everybody will agree that when you develop your inner game rules do not matter as much as before. You make your own rules and still the women come to you. This is because of the energy you radiate. Everybody has an energy and you'll attract to you people with similar energy. The guys with weak inner game (or low DJ energy) always manage to fvck up somehow. Thats why they get frustrated and say things like "I don't know why I said that" or "I fvcked up again" etc etc.

 

[user43770]

In my opinion, you're blowing smoke, slaog.

 

[slaog]

In my opinion, you're blowing smoke, slaog.

No prob


It would be a boring world if everybody had the same beliefs. I'm certain about the law of attraction because I have looked at it for a few years and looked at my own life. I also look at people.


I know a fella who started gambling a few years ago. He's not the brightest and he is thousands of Euro in dept now. The interesting thing about he is that when he first started gambling he started to win and kept winning for months. He was winning 10's of thousands of Euro. He bought a new car and everything. Another gambler I know said he couldn't understand how the guy was winning so much because he hadn't a clue of horses but everything thing he picked out was winning. The other guy said that he's end up losing everything because he was betting on everything he could.


Eventually after many months the winning run came to an end. He started to lose and now 2 or 3 years later is probably around 100,000e in debt. His luck ran out. Or was it luck. My belief is that when he first started gambling he believed and expected to win. He wasn't smart enough to know about odds etc so he attracted that winning run to his life.


By the way the winning run lasted months and involved 100's of bets. I always wondered why he was so lucky for those few months. Some people will call it a coincedence. If they want to believe in that and luck thats ok with me.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Casinos are full of guys with a positive mindset. The guys who own casinos are very glad they do.