Hello Friend,

If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.

It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

The end of JaguarMike on this site and why

JaguarMike

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I have been a membor for a while, have posted my ideas, have had some people enjoy them, some people understand them, some people flame them, and some people not even read them.

But whatever, I am leaving this site because of a few reasons... I will also explain tips that will probably incite a lot of flame and feedback:

-material is recycled, people do not consult the DJ bible before posting

-the majority of talk is based upon pre-meeting, pre-number, and questions such as "does she like me because she looked at me in class?" this is horrible.

-An end to AFCisness can not be reached by asking "does she like me" because any answer will not suffice the mind of the AFC. The only way to end this internal struggle is to go out there and make stuff happen (i.e. for you idiots/apathetic afcs... TALK TO HER AND SET UP A DATE)

-Our species has survived millions of years without group therapy on "failures with women." In caveman days, AFCs would not get to reproduce, and would starve to death.

-Let's not fool ourselves, guys talk to girls so that they can have sex with them and fill their gap. Stop lying to yourself and realize how things really go.

-The girl will always go with the bigger alpha male who makes more money, has more power, has more social status, and has more to offer. The only exception is when a girl has underlining sympathy problems.

-Getting girls/women is not science. There are too many tips, tricks, and sedution methods out there. The beauty of relationships is that everyone is different, and does different stuff.

-Coming here will not solve the problem that was created when you were first hurt by a girl and became an AFC.

-20% of women are trouble, and there is no understanding their motives... they are simply messedup or horrible.

-Doing nice things for girls and being nice WORKS. BEING NICE WORKS BEING NICE WORKS BEING NICE WORKS. Let me say this again, BEING NICE WORKS if you are an alpha male. The girl just might fall in love and hey... thats a great feeling.

-Ignoring girls and playing this stupid game is shallow and can only get you so far. Time to re-evaluate your stategy when it comes to life.

-All of this self-improvement is a waste of time. If you actually get yourself out there and go talk to girls no matter how difficult all necessary traits will follow because you will be turning into more of an alpha male.

-AFC males are beta males. They are the weak, the undesireable, and the useless. Being AFC is below death. Do not lie to yourself.

-Alpha males and jerks will do anything they can to get the girl while leaving you to search the internet for porn. Why let these guys get what should be yours?

-If a girl talks to you about another guy, you are BEING USED. She doesn't care about you. All she cares about is getting an understanding so she can intice the bad-boy into sex.

-Women want sex as much as men, if not more. The cute shy and innocent girl you know that sits in back of you in class wants to fuk as bad as you do, only she doesn't reveal it.

-KINO comes when you are confident in yourself, and give out energy instead of taking in energy and not giving it out because of fear of losing control. STOP BEING PATHETIC.

-Don't read too much into the star posters on this site, they have to keep posting... once you understand this idea, you will never come here again.

-This site needs to evolve, but if it does it will be without me, because this site goes in circles, and is turning into a waste of my time with my new found success with women. Good luck to the real men out there, if you stay here, try to evolve this board. I wish you the best of luck.
 

Boner da Stoner

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-Ignoring girls and playing this stupid game is shallow and can only get you so far. Time to re-evaluate your stategy when it comes to life.
games are what have carried humans into this new age of enlightenment... 10000 years ago humans were still using spears n just learning what arrows were, but games were still a part of everyday life, dogs, cats, rats, birds, fish, dolphins all play games, I guess it's part of being a mammal...

talk about evolution will you, learn to use what you have ingrained inside of you that makes you human and eveolve that, or come up with something brand new, until than, you are just as AFC as the rest of em.
 

FRëSHURE

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Originally posted by JaguarMike
cmon people TALK!
You didn't need to do that.
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You've got some good points. Some bad points.

But I beleive you have success.

Depending what you want from women will decide what you need to take from this site.

Take Mystery. (although not this site, its all basically the same)
The king of the methods/routines etc. But couldn't hold a relationship. Could bed anyone he wanted.

If you want to bed a new girl each night, follow that path.

If you want to take the path of getting and keeping a girl.
Its simplier.

Keep your life seperate from her. Stay true to your interests. This will keep you both from getting burned out.

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Both could be explained more in depth, but I'm sure we all get the jist of it.

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as an example of a wrong point you made.

-All of this self-improvement is a waste of time. If you actually get yourself out there and go talk to girls no matter how difficult all necessary traits will follow because you will be turning into more of an alpha male.

Boy are you wrong there.

Talking to girls will not make you fit, rich, smart etc. Talking to girls will not give you the skills to lead a group etc. etc.

Self Improvement is key to becomming an alpha male, you improve, and others don't, and they cannot challenge you. Whether it be strength, smarts, social skills, leadership skills, and so on and so forth.

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most of what you said was pretty good. and has been said countless times before.

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the great thing about this site is that the people who come here, and don't progess in there life become sad about it. because they learn the theory, they know that its all logical and would work if applied. But they hold themselves back from success in life, and with women.
and it upsets them.
and it should.
they have stumbled upon something of great value.
accept it.
but ignore it.

what better way to have an AFC suffer.

to be a Keyboard Jockey would eat me alive.
 

TedJustAdmitIt

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Are you lost?

Those revolving doors are a *****,eh!

The EXIT is that way======>
 

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i agree with the majority of your points, aside from the whole alpha, beta, phi, gamma, delta crap.

reason is, most don't realize true alpha males are born, not made. and with regards to stuff like this...
-Doing nice things for girls and being nice WORKS. BEING NICE WORKS BEING NICE WORKS BEING NICE WORKS. Let me say this again, BEING NICE WORKS if you are an alpha male. The girl just might fall in love and hey... thats a great feeling.
no...true alphas do whatever the f*ck they want, and are quite irrational at times. true alpha males are not what you even know or think them to be. apparently some have the wrong perception.

the reason being nice can work is if you are being genuine. key word: genuine. being genuine, yourself, works. supplication doesn't work. too many confuse the two. pick-up skills are nice icing to the cake once you've established great social skills, ability to pick-up without techniques, and just some dating experience. go see brother ap's new thread...i concur with his thoughts.

i agree though, this site, once you've got the basics down and you're on your journey it becomes mostly filler. but there are still some great posts here by guys like A-Unit, and it is worthwhile reading them.

if you want to up your game, and get a bit more advanced, read up on Player_Supreme's threads. that guy knew what the f*ck he was talking about. don't get caught up in the AFC threads here if you don't want. cut to the real deal: his threads

i'll PM you with another site.
 
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donjuan87

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You Accomplished Don Juans should NOT leave.

Us newbies and wannabes need you actual Don Juans to help us to become the Don Juans we want to be.

What would this site be like if it was full of newbies and AFCs?

There would be no one to answer the questions.












So what I'm saying is,

WE NEED YOU ACCOMPLISHED DON JUANS TO STAY! :)
 

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Some good points. Some very wrong points.

Can't really do much with this post. Good luck.
 

BrotherAP

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Originally posted by h2o
i'll PM you with another site.
Cool, send me one too!


BrotherAP :D
 

Docs

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You Accomplished Don Juans should NOT leave.

Us newbies and wannabes need you actual Don Juans to help us to become the Don Juans we want to be.

What would this site be like if it was full of newbies and AFCs?

There would be no one to answer the questions.
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I shall now introduce you to...
The Bible
The Search Engine
Your Brain.

Combined, they give you powers to understand what past Don Juans have gone though, simply by reading what they wrote for you.

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This site was and always will be full of AFC's and newbies. The thing you need to understand is that there is age involved. As you age from newbie to AFC to the slow progression to Don Juan, you relieze that it is time to move on and let others take the reins. There will always be Don Juans here, just that time changes who.

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jaguarmike you make a lot of great points and we all agree you should leave
:)
 

FRëSHURE

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Originally posted by donjuan87
You Accomplished Don Juans should NOT leave.

Us newbies and wannabes need you actual Don Juans to help us to become the Don Juans we want to be.

What would this site be like if it was full of newbies and AFCs?

There would be no one to answer the questions.












So what I'm saying is,

WE NEED YOU ACCOMPLISHED DON JUANS TO STAY! :)
the problem is its the AFCs who are answering the questions now...
you gotto be in the field..
if you've been here more then 2 weeks, you should have started sarging.

if you haven't, re assess your goals.
 
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