Hello Friend,

If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.

It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

The "DJ"

Wacky-1

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Tell me, have any of you watched the movie, "The Guru" ?
it's befitting that I mention it at this time. For all who haven't, here's the long and short of it. This guy wants to become an actor. Unfortunately, he can't seem to make much money, so he goes into porn, where he meets a woman who teaches him about sex.

So he uses all this "knowledge" and becomes a "sex guru", bedding women all the way to San Fransisco. How many of you today, can tell me - "I am that unfortunate actor...Who came to this site, which is that women that taught me the secrets. Now I am in the real world, being that "Guru" and getting laid! " True, many here will agree with me, and say "YES! I came here, leaning all the techniques - C&F, neghits, oooh, a dash of Kino". So, like the actor in the movie, you learn all this, and go out into the world, a "guru", or in your case, a DJ, making merry with girls, laughing all the way home.

I'm not saying it's wrong to go after girls. In fact, i advocate it, and encourage it. But what I'm basically saying is this...All this knowledge here has made you a "guru" - a "DJ". You can choose to live your life this way, by all means, and enjoy the fruits that come with it.

I've come to realise that in this age, there are not 2, but 3 paths to walk. One, you call the AFC. Two, You call, the DJ. I say, both are equally damaging. While some may understand the "DJ" principles, learn the techniques etc. I guarantee you, right here right now, that if you choose to focus on the DJ technique, I've not a single doubt in my mind you can get 10 X more women than I can, if I walk the third path.

Still listening? The third path is Your path. It is living life the Way YOU want it to be lived. Now some of you may protest and say, "Living life like that eh? I want girls fawning over me, giving me all the attention I want". Realise now gentlemen, what is YOUR reality, and what is not in your control. Girls, friends, OTHER PEOPLE, do not walk on your path.It's like you are a car. People who like it, buy it, and ride on it. Those who don't, don't.

But too many of us here, myself included at one point, strive to become that ultimate Ferrari, so that people will be drooling over us. I say, even with the engine of a second class car, I tell you gentlemen, keep upgrading your parts and you will be able to match a Ferrari. That is the third path. Learning from your mistakes. Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes.Improve yourself. It's that simple. And for those still seeking girls, they will come...naturally, likes flies to honey.

Ah, but many of us choose the DJ, using techniques, and like a fast paint job, our car looks like a Ferrari, but when people actually ride it, oh, what a nasty shock! It's got a second class engine! So gentlemen, MOVE AWAY from all this technique, that gets you a quick paint job. Instead, focus on your character, your appearance, your ambitions. Everyone will be dying to have a piece of that Ferrari.

I hope that's been a help!
 

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READ THIS AND REPLY PEOPLE!
 

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So your basically saying after the paintshop I need to provide 500K worth of upgrade money (also known as Willpower).
 

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An interesting read, and one that actually makes sense (unlike some other posts these days). Even I don't agree with you about the 3 conflicting "paths," I do agree that self improvement and concentrating on your making own life the way you want are two of the most important things that you can do. However, the "third path," "your" path as you state it, I do not see how that can be compared as a seperate path to being either AFC or DJ.

The way I see the difference between AFC and DJ is, in one you face life and choose to cower, while in the other you actively work to make it become success. From what I gather in your post, you define a DJ as someone who uses techniques and techniques alone to bag women, while an AFC is just that guy who gets nothing. That cannot be more from the truth.

A Don Juan does use techniques, that I cannot deny, but because he uses them does not make him a Don Juan. Only because he constantly improves himself, learns from his mistakes, and makes the best of every situation can he be considered such a seducer. AFCs can use the same techniques, but after they serve their specific purpose (usually to get a #) the AFC is helpless.

The "third path" is one in which you focus on making yourself better. Nothing wrong with that, is there? But that alone, just like techniques alone, will get you no where as a DJ. You might attract more women than you can believe, but if you do not what to do nothing besides attraction will materialize. Just the opposite, using techniques can and will get you some numbers. But without ambitions or goals, will you even have anything to work with after that initial date? Not to mention any reason to be there in the first place?

The "third path" isn't really a seperate path at all, but rather a necessary element that comprises a real Don Juan, right alongside techniques.

By the way, I don't know if you wanted to or not, but you said that if one was to follow the second rather than the third path, that they would get ten times as many women than if they had followed the third. Shouldn't your argument be the other way around? :D
 

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Wow. I have only one problem with your post. It's main argument is fundamentally flawed. You say that the "third path" is to be yourself. Guess what. That's what DJ's are supposed to do. This site isn't made to produce carbon-copied lady killers, it's made to let you realise your inner pontential and truly be the best version of yourself that you can be.
It doesn't take long for most people to realise that 99% of what you read here is utterly worthless crap. But at least it gets you out there, learning about how you like to play your game.
This is only a springboard for you. Most people come here, learn as much as they want, and then leave, mostly forever, occassionally stopping by to drop a few posts.
In truth, there is only one way to attract women. Be yourself. But not just who you are right now, be who you CAN be. Everyone is capable.
 

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Ok, great replies guys...

Ultimate scoundrel : That is EXACTLY WHAT I'm saying.

NYC Dude: I'm trying to make a distinction. Look at our "new-age" DJ. Do you think he really cares about improving himself?Most newbies screw improvement but embrace technique. I suppose this post was more targeted at newbies, but I also wrote it with the intention that experienced people should not rely on technique.

The Second Path : What is a DJ today? A COMBINATION of improvement AND technique?

If you want to delve into a deeper meaning to this, then perhaps I should have made myself more clear. I'm saying that the DJ stage, or Second path, is NOT the most rewarding. Having field tested the material myself, I know it for a fact, that with technique, you can surely get girls. Heck, this stuff is even powerful enough to turn around LJBF cases. Believe me, I've tried it.

The Third Path - YOUR path, is basically moving away from DJ philosophy. No why in HELL would I want to do that? After all, I'm getting girls...If I choose the third path, my girl ratio will drop!
Look at what DJ's have become - slaves to knowledge found here... Situation #1 - Use C & F...oh wait, time for a neghit..or maybe some KINO etc..you get the idea. By learning this technique, all we are doing are becoming people who are no more real than slaves to knowledge.

As I said, it is entirely your choice. If you want to live life according to DJ principles - this rule, and that rule, and that neghit etc...Sure, you will get girls, but one day, you might find yourself, improved and all, but asking, "Is this really ME?"

For your technique to get girls makes you an automaton. All you do is follow these rules. However, I'm saying if you choose to talk to girls exactly the way YOU want to, tease them (if YOU want), go for straight A's (if YOU want), work out (if YOU want), you only answer to yourself and God (whichever religion, or not).

THAT is the third path. Sure, it may cost you girls along the way. But tell me honestly, are you more content living life, as YOU see fit, or only overlooking some aspects of your life as YOU want it,but other aspects, such as girls, you feel the need to follow technique. Heck, some of the stuff here has "how to study" and all that.

All I'm saying is this : You come here because you feel you are somehow - less, incomplete. Pook, Fingers, ESPECIALLY BBB ! Look at their posts....Actually, all this site is, is a major boost of confidence. Most of the posts here(good ones) are highly inspirational. Realise gentlemen...realise now, that you had it in you all along. Just DICTATE your life. It's as simple as that. No need for a DJ bible. No need for all these fancy moves.
You want that girl - go get her! Talk to her the way YOU want to, not because some crackhead called D'Angelo told you to be ****y and funny. The third path, gentlemen, is to let go, and let YOU take over. And of course, if you believe in a higher being, let divine intervention help.
 

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Good post but I don't really believe that going through the third path will cost you any women unless you want it to. I have missed out on loads of oppertunities for girls either because I did/said something I wanted to say/do and they didn't like it or because I would prefer to be improving myself than going after the girl at that time.
I think that its not the fact that newbies learn rules and material that hurts them, it's the fact that they rely on it to get them girls instead of using it as extras. Thats all they are really just like extras to help you convey attractive personality traits that naturals also convey.
 

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Haha, Wacky-1 you are completely right about the "New Age" DJs. Pathetic, really, that the way that they function. A true Don Juan realizes who he is and acts upon that. He might use techniques, but he doesn't let them control him like those new age posers. Now that you've made it more clear, I see where the flaws in the second path come from, and that gives much more credibility to your argument. However, I still believe that techniques serve a place in a DJ's arsenal, albeit a much smaller one than many would imagine.
 

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Most Definitely NYC Dude...

I'm advocating that technique be used as a last resort; something to fall back on if truly necessary. Too many "new-age" DJ's get caught in the trap of technique, and they lose the part of themselves that made it worthwhile - their personality.
 
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