The biggest lie of all AFCs are not nice guys they are wimps and liars

[JezDuffield]

Every fvcka on this site says that AFCs are Nice Guys, they are not Nice at fvckin all, if the truth be known.
AFCs are the same as Jerks, only that the Jerks are fvckin honest about what they fvckin want, where the AFCs are so fvckin dishonest, that they get fvckin nothin.
Ya know what, AFCs play Mr Nice Guy, as they think that it will get their fvckin c0cks into the HBs puzzy, it doesn't fvckin work for the liars.
Jerks are fvckin honest, they couldn't give a fvck if they got a fvck or not, so they get the fvck.
AFCs are so fvckin fearful of rejection that they play out the liar and as such get rejected.
Jerks couldn't give a fvck about rejection, they target as many babes until they get to fvck one.
AFCs are not Nice at all, they want to fvck just as many HBs as the Jerks do, their wimps that can't take No for an answer.
Jerks live out their lives to experience their own pleasures, they are real, they do not care for relationships or true love, only the excitement of their own lives.
AFCs are always depressed, they hate themselves, they hate their lives, so they pursue the safest and easiest options, it gets them nowhere at all.
Remember this, whilst the Jerks are goin out surfin, workin out at the fvckin gym, and meetin with their buddies, the AFCs are isolatin themselves in their homes, watchin fvckin porno flicks, readin fvckin How to become AlphaMale books, and fvckin thinkin about sex and fvckin strategies to get it, but they never do.
AFCs are not Nice Guys, they are fvckin liars, that pretend to be Nice, but they fvckin are not.
Jerks fvck the HBs due to their honesty and lack of fear, AFCs never get to fvck the HBs because they can see right through these cvnts, they know that they are not Nice at all.
Never ever show a sign of nervousness and a lack of confidence when ya speak to a HB or ya will GET rejected.
If ya want to fvck the pretty girl, then ya have to talk to her like ya would ya sister, ya mom, ya buddies, the old fvckin dude who serves ya at ya local store, ya fvckin pet rabbitt, then ya will get the girl, can ya see what I am fvckin sayin here.
Stop callin AFCs Nice Guys, they are liars, that are not very Nice at all. :box:

 

[BBX]

Hands down one of the best posts ive read in a while.

 

[donjuanjovi]

Good post. It could have been written a little better, with about ninety percent less "fvck's". But good post.

 

[CrazyBeautiful]

Haha, actually I find it sad that so many guys post on this site, and yes I'm a girl, but for the guys that know their **** and try to help these hopeless people, I give you credit.

 

[grinder]

Harsh but so true. What's even harder is this lie is told to themselves and other than this place, being a "nice guy" is what everyone expects of all men.

Being a "nice guy" AFC means:

1) Deny your manhood.
2) Actually be ashamed you have sexual feelings for women.
3) Try to deceive women by pretending you don't want to f*ck (they know you do).
4) Apologize for acting like a man.
5) Doing things for women hoping it will get you laid rather than being direct about what you want (sh*t, they can see right through you and play you like a violin).
6) Your treat women too differently (like a princess) and create an unnatural distance between you and them.

This is very different than being a "good guy". DJ's are good guys, not nice, and not jerks.

And to CrazyBeautiful and others, the majority of men are completely asleep, and don’t even realize the lie of being “nice”. At least here a few have a chance of waking up. The reason JezDuffield has to yell and cuss is many just won’t listen, they stay asleep.

 

[JezDuffield]

I have to tell ya all that it took me many fvckin years to see this truth about AFCs bein fvckin liars.
I couldn't understand why a HB always picked the bad ass dude over the seeminly Nice Guy AFC, who I now know are fvckin liars.
Liars can NEVER speak with confidence, they can NEVER make eye contact, they can NEVER be bold, this is why they NEVER get to fvck the HBs.
HBs can read these fvckin dudes better than us dudes can read the HBs, the HBs hate AFC liars.
If ya want to fvck the HBs, ya have to forget about them, ya have to talk to them like they are a member of ya family, if ya want to fvck them, ya have to be honest about ya sexual desires.
Ya never gonna have it that every HB ya meet is gonna want ya to fvck her, ya just got to accept that fact.
Ya have to enjoy ya life, do the things ya want to do, don't even think about the HBs till ya are talking with them.
Every HB knows that every dude on the fvckin planet desires to fvck, so ya got to be honest about this, when ya do these things, ya will find it so fvckin easy to get a fvck that ya won't even know why the AFCs are lying themselves away from the HBs minds.
A lack of confidence not only around girls, but anyone in general, declares that you are being fvckin dishonest, and have a hidden agenda.
Dudes who are Nice Guys have an air of confidence about them, they are honest, the HBs know what they want, and they often get it.
The saddest thing about this is that the dudes who are honest rarely want to be in long term relationships, where as the HBs most often do.
The HBs who want to marry can't cause the dudes they desire don't want to be with just the one HB.
This is the bizarre fvckin thing about it, the dudes who desire to marry lie in order to get it, but NEVER can, yet the dudes who are honest rarely desire to marry, even though they can, this leaves the HBs in a fvckin tragic predicament. :box:

 

[Raikojo17]

man, i feel u on that one. everything u said in that post is so true. dudes jus need to learn to be confident and honest, or, Be a MAN.

 

[S.S.N. 318]

thats real talk right there cuzz.....fa realz.....

 

[izza]

Good post. It could have been written a little better, with about ninety percent less "fvck's". But good post.

LOL LOL LOL, so true

Yeah, it's a good observation, but it's hard to follow what the "fvck" you're saying bro.

We need to revise the DJB to eliminate this "jerks get women" nonsense. Besides, I know plenty of jackasses who are single! Why are we purposely putting people on the wrong path?

We have to revise the Bible, and put a lot of Pook's posts in an "advanced" section. These posts are good for motivation, but too often put n00bs on the wrong track.

 

[DJinTraining06]

To the original poster, I think u make some good points, but your also way over-genaralizing. There are plenty of whimpy guys who are not liars and are genuinely nice. Only a real jaded person would think that the only time a person can be nice is if they want something. I admit im still more AFC then i want to be, but i believe there r times that i am actully nice cuz i feel and sympathize with others. There are also times when i admit im only nice cuz im a selfish jerklike the so called "jerks" and i just want soemthing like sex or whatever.

I think u saying AFC's r whimps is more accurate then sayin they're not really nice, cuz thats not always the case. Some guys r still on the road to being a true man and eventually will reach it, some many never reach it and stay afc wusses. It doesnt mean these guys r horrible lying, people who pretend to be nice. Some of them actually are nice too. U cant generalize like that. Being a wuss is a lack of confidence and courage in my opinion, doenst make them horrible scheming lying people. They just need to be more of a man.

 

[Chosen1]

Ok, that's nice and all but who didn't know that nice guys get laid a lot less then jerks. We all know that they are passive aggressive manipulators. I hate to say it like that because I'm a nice guy, with a little bit of @sshole in me. But the difference between me and the other guys is that I'm genuwine.

 

[d9930380]

This is the same old crap that's been posted time and time before and normally comes from women originally. Yes it's true for many nice-guys out there but it's a broad generalization and I generally find that the girls who hold this oppinion are the ones that are man-haters at heart because they can't trust men. I've met ALOT of girls who think like this and they're all VERY bitter. The reason why they like bastards is because at least bastards are honest and they can't trust ANY man - they think all guys are just after sex.

Some men generally believe treating a women right is the way to go and wait for their special one and they're not passive-aggressive manipulators. Just guys that try to treat others with respect and expect it back in return. Also sometimes when a women argues initially to test a guy's resolve it's manufactured and therefore about an issue that he doesn't really care about and therefore he is agreeable. This doesn't mean he won't stand up to her later about something important. This isn't being a wuss, just a guy wanting a less stressful life (although women don't like that either). Again some guys DO fit the steriotype but some nice guys are just good guys unaware of the game.

But yea unfortunately because it's almost become accepted truth then you are best staying away from being a nice-guy at all and embrace a little bit of jerkness (not too much).

 

[Nighthawk]

Yeah my rAFC friend isn't a liar, he's just a deluded old hippie brainwashed by feminism.

 

[ElChoclo]

Whilst attempting to dispel one myth, he propagates another. Women cannot see through anyone. They don't have some psychic ability to detect bad character, any more than men do.

If they did, con men and serial killers would have a difficult time operating.

 

[izza]

Yeah my rAFC friend isn't a liar, he's just a deluded old hippie brainwashed by feminism.

Your friend is brainwashed by feminism. You are brainwashed by this board. Big difference.

I note how quickly that fool was banned.

 

[skip2mylou781]

that fool was banned cuz i pointed out to the mods that he made terrorist jokes about the US (obviously very offensive).......he said somethin like "u ****in americans, blow up ur twin towers"......the original poster is pretty much a true true azzhole

 

[Nighthawk]

Your friend is brainwashed by feminism. You are brainwashed by this board. Big difference.

I am 37. I discovered this site last year. I found it congruent with what I had already believed, and also congruent with the advice I'd was dishing out on my own dating advice web-column.

The other difference is that my rAFC friend has had about 2 women and my approach has allowed me to take my pick.

 

[d9930380]

Have you convinced him yet? Or is he happily married now living in blissful ignorance.

 

[realsmoothie]

So... by the original poster's reasoning... EVERY nice guy is an AFC? And by that logic, you have to NOT be nice to be a DJ?

I call bullsh*t. The reduction of pretty complex stuff to convenient sound-bytes (er, type-bytes?) on this board is funny sometimes.

 

[Nighthawk]

Have you convinced him yet? Or is he happily married now living in blissful ignorance.

Oh he's driving me crazy. For years I'd argued with his unproductive AFCness. He was holding out for the perfect woman who would one day meet. She had freckles I believe. He had unrequited crushes on women, would do anything for them as a friend and hoped they would see how sweet he was and fall in love. They never did. Textbook AFC.

Finally, after I found sosuave I made him read it and he realised he was an AFC. We went out sarging. His confidence rose and he applied some kino to a (HB7) girl from his office and she responded. Finally he had a gf! Thank you Sosuave, etc!



So he stopped reading SS. Until she pulled shyt-test after shyt-test and he responded by supplicating. Soon she had all the power, got bored and cheated on him on vacation. She said it was because she couldn't trust him because he had been initially unsure of their relationship. He forgave her, and accepted her lying and cheating as understandable after his earlier doubts.

Finally she dumped him, and she is now seeing someone else in the same office. Unable to move on, he tried to show what a nice, considerate guy he is to woo her back. She responded by showing less respect than before. Then she would reel him in a bit, only to dash his hopes again and again. The last I heard he was sick of it and is really going to move on, but I wouldn't bet on it.

All along I've been preaching my way, the SS way, and he refuses to listen. He won't read SS to see how common his situation is, and how to handle it. I encouraged him to go for other women, but apparently he never meets anyone he likes. In London.

It has led me to the conclusion that many AFCs are comfortable with their sexless obsessive behaviour. They would rather have the empty fantasy of a dream girl surrogate mother that doesn't exist than deal and have fun with women as they are.