Tempted to abstain from women.

[Korrupt]

I'm sure you're wondering WHY. Well, the four months prior to this winter break, which started the 16th of this month, I made a promise to myself that I would put my studies before everything else, and I did. During these several months I got my work done in a timely and efficient manner, and ultimately earned all A's in my college classes. Not only that, but I also gained about five pounds - from 190-195 (something I had been attempting to do for over a year), as well as a bit of strength. My eating didn't change, my sleeping didn't change, my training didn't change, etc.. Actually, I was frequently stressed and regularly went to bed between 3-6am, but I was, in the great scheme of things, happy and content most of the time.

What was the ONLY difference between these four months and the year+ before the semester? You guessed it. I spent a significant amount of my time chasing women. I have come to the conclusion that women, in general, lower a mans testosterone. No, not sex, but what you go through when dealing with women. All the work you do, all the bullsh*t you go through, all the cuddly-lovey-dovey crap and so-on lowers your testosterone.

This isn't broscience, this is factual:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...4095051&page=1

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/13129483

http://www.psypost.org/2010/03/2010-...stosterone-396

Of course, lower testosterone isn't the only negative side effect. The mental anguish, flaking, lying, manipulation, teasing, and all around bullsh*t you go through when not only chasing women, but also when in a relationship has a profound affect on your mental and physical well-being. Winter break literally JUST started, and since going back to my "old ways" I'm already feeling much less happy. I would even go as far to say that when I was avoiding women, I was the happiest I've ever been.

I would also like to add that whenever I felt horny or lonely during my period of female abstinence, I would rub one out and feel completely better. I really didn't care about them at some point. I was happy just getting my work done, going to the gym and making gains, seeing/talking to friends, and taking part in other hobbies (like playing video games).

 

[alpha_ash]

I agree. I feel like girls are so draining in every way. I'm sure someone will come on here and call us both AFC. But the fact is that we don't need a woman and the sex. The way to abstain is spending time with friends and occasionally taking care of your needs. I have done it and it works. Fuk women, I'm going to join you! No more contacting girls or responding to their texts/calls.

 

[dap]

I abstained for ALL of undergrad (I know) because I wanted top grades for a very competitive career. It worked out and ive mostly been happy, but now I'm having some growing pains trying to get into the game.

 

[Purefilth]

I agree. I feel like girls are so draining in every way. I'm sure someone will come on here and call us both AFC. But the fact is that we don't need a woman and the sex. The way to abstain is spending time with friends and occasionally taking care of your needs. I have done it and it works. Fuk women, I'm going to join you! No more contacting girls or responding to their texts/calls.

If you are happy - its not AFC.

Honestly Ive been abstaining for a while - dropped plates into my 'friendzone' - and occasionally have a hookup if I go out(I know its not true abstinence)

But the overall having a break from The Game is definitely healthy.

 

[Dominance]

Yeah it's good to do that sometimes and not worrying about it for a while can definately clear your head. I remember at one stage I did this, I set I think 3 months and in that time I suddenly had several girls after me. One of them I regret not doing anything, but atleast at that time I stuck to my commitment to myself.

 

[Trump]

The mental anguish, flaking, lying, manipulation, teasing, and all around bullsh*t you go through when not only chasing women, but also when in a relationship has a profound affect on your mental and physical well-being.

I would also like to add that whenever I felt horny or lonely during my period of female abstinence, I would rub one out and feel completely better. I really didn't care about them at some point. I was happy just getting my work done, going to the gym and making gains, seeing/talking to friends, and taking part in other hobbies (like playing video games).

Sorry bro, think you are kidding yourself and are lazy. You'd rather watch porn and pixels on a screen because a woman wont give you sex when you want? That's weak.

And how can a woman who doesn't physically touch you affect your well being?

If she flakes, move on
If she lies, call her on it
If she manipulates, move on
If she teases, indifference

If you can't deal with women because they don't act the way you want them to, you are going to have problems. Ideally, you should be so good that they are chasing you and you are screwing with their head.

Remember, they want sex from you, not the other way round. Feminism has messed up our minds...

 

[spiegel549]

Sorry bro, think you are kidding yourself and are lazy. You'd rather watch porn and pixels on a screen because a woman wont give you sex when you want? That's weak.

And how can a woman who doesn't physically touch you affect your well being?

If she flakes, move on
If she lies, call her on it
If she manipulates, move on
If she teases, indifference

If you can't deal with women because they don't act the way you want them to, you are going to have problems. Ideally, you should be so good that they are chasing you and you are screwing with their head.

Remember, they want sex from you, not the other way round. Feminism has messed up our minds...

I like that a lot ^^^^^

I use to go out and the only thing I would think about was getting laid. Over the past month I go out and really don't give a fcuk if I leave with a broad or not. I still make approaches and dance/talk to girls but I feel like you develop an aura when you stop caring that women pick up on I.E. then they start to pursue you lol.

Just focus on YOU, gym, hobbies, making money etc. Women will come and go.

 

[Cremasta]

I don't know. To me that's a bit like practising to be hungry, I don't really see the point.

I think it's fine to stop actively chasing women for a while, but if one throws herself at you...

 

[Korrupt]

Sorry bro, think you are kidding yourself and are lazy. You'd rather watch porn and pixels on a screen because a woman wont give you sex when you want? That's weak.

And how can a woman who doesn't physically touch you affect your well being?

If she flakes, move on
If she lies, call her on it
If she manipulates, move on
If she teases, indifference

If you can't deal with women because they don't act the way you want them to, you are going to have problems. Ideally, you should be so good that they are chasing you and you are screwing with their head.

Remember, they want sex from you, not the other way round. Feminism has messed up our minds...

Lol earth is calling, they want you to head back. I'm beyond all the bullsh!t "confidence boosting" talk you just spouted. Your last sentence ("you are the prize") is what's told to newcomers in order to boost moral. You also contradict yourself. If a girl is flaking and lying, you CAN'T "be so good that they are chasing you and you are screwing with their head."

I also don't think anyone in here gets it.. Did I say abstain from sex? No. I said abstain from WOMEN. If a girl is throwing herself at you, f*ck her. Just don't chase. Chasing is what takes time, money, and physical/mental energy.

I'm not even going to address your first sentence it was so ignorant..

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

I don't love em, I don't chase em I duck em

^one of my favorite verses ever in a song. Too bad the rapper couldn't practice this himself.

If you abstain from anything that you like then it can always be a positive. Abstaining from food has been good. Abstaining from sex can be good. Abstaining from women can also be good.

Me personally, I ain't abstaining from nothing. But if you can then more power to you.

 

[ka_mate]

This isn't broscience, this is factual:

...

Of course, lower testosterone isn't the only negative side effect. The mental anguish, flaking, lying, manipulation, teasing, and all around bullsh*t you go through when not only chasing women, but also when in a relationship has a profound affect on your mental and physical well-being.

You have provided studies that demonstrate that men in committed relationships have lower testosterone level; however, you haven't provided any factual evidence that lower testosterone levels are a bad thing. It's therefore broscience to conclude (or imply) that being in a committed relationship is bad for you.

I would argue that if you're in a truly loving, committed relationship (which the men in the study could be in) then you won't be experiencing the anguish, flaking, lying, manipulation and teasing etc.

Also, I think having a girlfriend and intimate partner can be a great source of comfort, strength and fun.

Girls can be a real drain or they can be a boost in life. I tend to want to spend time around the latter

 

[yyc12]

however, you haven't provided any factual evidence that lower testosterone levels are a bad thing.

Dude..are you f*cking kidding??? seriously???? google is your friend; do some research. Look up symptoms of low T and see if you'll enjoy any of those, .

 

[sadonomspa]

Honestly, I only know of famous gay people doing this. Morrisey from The Smiths and Tim Gun from Project Runway.

If you ask them they would say it def helped their careers and focus.

When I was single I def had my best body in terms of working out. I was hell bent on getting a gf but didn't because I didn't know the game. Love,emotions, if I could give them all back and live my life like a robot I would.

 

[sadonomspa]

Honestly, I only know of famous gay people doing this. Morrisey from The Smiths and Tim Gun from Project Runway.

If you ask them they would say it def helped their careers and focus.

When I was single I def had my best body in terms of working out. I was hell bent on getting a gf but didn't because I didn't know the game. Love,emotions, if I could give them all back and live my life like a robot I would.

 

[Dominance]

Don't try to make him feel bad Sadonomspa.. no need for that ****. It's definately a good idea to do this occasionally.

 

[ka_mate]

Dude..are you f*cking kidding??? seriously???? google is your friend; do some research. Look up symptoms of low T and see if you'll enjoy any of those, .

I said "you haven't provided any factual evidence that lower testosterone levels are a bad thing"

I didn't comment on whether or not evidence that low testosterone is a bad thing existed only that 'you' (which in this case refers to Korrupt) didn't provide any links to research to argue that.

I looked up problems with low testosterone and there are problems associated with low testosterone levels. However, please note that on the causes page of this website, being in a committed relationship does not appear.

http://www.medicinenet.com/low_testosterone/page2.htm#what_are_the_causes_of_low_testosterone

Furthermore, all of the problems seem to be of a biological nature (problems with testicles, pituitary gland etc) rather than social factors.

On a side note. The wikipedia article on testosterone says

"Single men, who do not have relationship experience, have lower testosterone levels than single men with experience. It is suggested that these single men with prior experience are in a more competitive state than their non-experienced counterparts"

Reference
Gray PB, Chapman JF, Burnham TC, McIntyre MH, Lipson SF, Ellison PT (2004). "Human male pair bonding and testosterone". Human Nature 15 (2): 119–131. doi:10.1007/s12110-004-1016-6

So if you are really concerned about having maximum testosterone (which personally I am not) then it looks like you should get some relationship experience and then become single.

 

[The Gambler]

Some of you guys need to lighten up a bit. I'm not sure about the whole testosterone thing, but with that aside, all Korrupt is saying is that he thinks he needs a period of rest where he focuses on self-improvement. There's nothing exotic or dramatic about it. If he looks back three to six months from now, I'm sure he will notice lots of positive improvements, just like the last time he did this.

Some HB9 cutie might throw herself at a confident, recharged Korrupt any time -- and he'll cross that bridge when it comes.

The Gambler

 

[backbreaker]

i did this for 3 years. 3 ****ing years lol. mostly by my choice, though some of it was not my choice. i would say that 2 years and 6 months of it was my choice. 6 months of it was me chasing my oneitis and not having any luck.

best thing i ever did. wouldn't be where i am now with women. more than anytihng i have no qualms about being alone. being alone is another plate to me now it's not something to be feared. plus i learned how to do a bunch of cool **** in those 3 years. i made a lot, a LOT of money in those 3 years. i set myself up for the rest of my life in those 3 years. I learned ****, learned how to really play the piano, learned how to cook, figured out the things i honestly like and the things i do to fit in.