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Eternal_water said:
When ever I try it people always look in the other direction, and they also travel round in gangs so I only have a pitiful 7 so far.

Besides I have bigger issues than severe AA right now having finished Uni and moved back home with parents and getting suffocated after the freedom.

Don't think I'll be taking any further part in this. 2nd bootcamp failed.

DUUUUUUDEEE, you need this more than ever. Just take it easy man, make eye contact, and if they look away, just stop them and ask for some directions or smth. You'll see it's much easier than just saying hi and you don't have for them to make EC with you. Don't fvcking even think of giving up now!!!!!!! You will feel amazing in a few weeks if you keep pushing, guaranteed!!!
 

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incognito42 said:
Sorry that was so long winded just to say that I've said 3/50 hi's that I've accounted for and have yet to accomplish either of the 2 hours of eye contact, but I WILL get both exercises done on time
Niceee... good times are coming! Keep us updated!
 

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EJlev said:
im down if im still able to get in
If you complete the exercises for the first week in the next 30 hours, you're in.
 

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Ok all I need now is 10 more for tomorrow then I'll pass for the week.
I got a number, but then she started talking bull**** about if I want to "invest in [weird company]" I think she was trying to lure me into a corporate ripoff.

Why does it seem like the only women who show interest in me end up wanting to just sell me ****?

UPDATE: ok I just got my 50 eye contact w/ hi's. After I finished them up, I saw two real fine chicks walking along and I thought "why the **** not". I talked to them and called them fine and they really liked it. Then when I asked them what they did, they said they were ESCORTS. I felt like busting up laughing since I dd not feel ready to game a wh0re who has probably heard it all. It's funny because she asked "so.... What you tryna' do later?" I really didn't feel so desperate to lose my virginity to an escort, so I just grabbed her number and deleted it afterwards. Once again women only like me if they wanna SELL ME SOMETHING.

And besides... think of the diseases :eek: :down:
 
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Post last night didn't go through and didn't feel like retyping it last night on my phone so I'll just bring the last couple days here... Breezed through my last 30 hi's today, just have lots of opportunity at work. some old people, the rest mostly female nurses, caregivers, etc. A lot of them close to my age...

I'll continue this shortly...

...Sry got caught up doing something and thought I might not get the post in on time ...

So what i learned in the eye contact challenge, old people are the masters of this. Knew id be in a old folks rehab yesterday for an hour+, surrounded by a lot of female medical staff, therapists, nurses, NAs, old people, etc. But old people never break eye contact. I think it actually makes for better practice in some ways. Felt like it was MORE of a challenge and took more effort to hold eye contact and carry on convo they could relate to. Plus i have to speak louder and annunciate better. Just made me more comfortable. Nurses were harder to draw eye contact from. They seem mentally preoccupied even when standing around, because well, they're nurses and they have a tough job! Lol, said hello to a half dozen and once I got their attention they were friendly. Collected most of yesterday's hi/hellos at this facility. Just continued to struggle all week with remembering to keep track of my hi/hellos I gather on the job in hospitals, ASsisted LIving Facilities, rehabs, etc.

Today made a serious effort to REMEMBER to tally up my hi's, or else there was no way I'd reach 30. Was unfortunately at a funeral this morning (before work) and had a few. Was in a hospital and a big ALF today and got my last hour in at the ALF. This ALF had quite a few young 18-21ish mostly female employees, as well as quite a few old people (of course) and quite a few nurses to practice on. Nurses here are much more aware and less stressed, seemed happy to give long eye contact and a hello while passing in the hall. The eye contact drill was really helpful I feel

...I deliver walkers, oxygen, wheelchairs, etc and feel pretty comfortable with making saying hi and speaking with hospital, rehab, nursing home, etc employees and patrons because I go in and out of several of them per day and HAVE to ask questions almost every time for my job...
 
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The point is not simply to say hi 50 times... it's to warm you up, and make you realize that the "stranger barrier" that divides everyone is a construct that exists primarily in both your heads. If you realize you CAN establish a connection with a total stranger within seconds, you understood the point of this exercise. You don't have to be a prisoner of social convention every single waking second of your life. That is the magic of life -- it's spontaneous, alive, unpredictable, despite how we hammer ourselves with categories, labels, and controls. You could just meet a girl and fall into bed with her and fall in love. It really could happen -- just not with anyone. And craziest of all, it could feel easy.

Second, NVC communication is huge, it's more important than a "hello" IMO, but if you don't say something eventually, you can't move a conversation deeper. Conversing is fine (but dry) without the good non-verbal vibe but attraction is different, you can feel it in the first glance at times. Then the challenge is not to let your feelings trip you up. You should notice this during eye contact at times with some girls.

Finally practice does not make perfect... PERFECT PRACTICE makes perfect, so keep in mind what the point of these exercises are, it's to make you more social, free, and less-repressed/complexed with women. Obviously a lot of people in the modern world are wary, distrustful, or otherwise fvcked up but part of being a DJ is pulling women (hell, people in general) out of their sh!"tty mindstate. Don't expect people to give you a hand up... you need to climb the summit and then extend an arm.

Nobody should quit over something this easy... you need to absorb the lesson and keep moving forward. But the 1st step here is: eye contact, vibe, natural smooth hello. Conversation is for week 2.
 

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Went for a # close yesterday at Tijuana flats. Girl who works there is an order taker. Seen her there a couple times before. Made a little small talk with her last time I was there, then I saw her yesterday while I was waiting for my to go order and I started bsing with her about her job, asked for her name. Then told her to give me her number and maybe I'd give her a call sometime. She sort of blushed and giggled and said "only problem is, I have a bf." I said that's too bad, she followed that up with "but, nothing lasts forever". I agreed. She asked how old I thence had a little more small talk then My food came out and we said our goodbyes

Starting to feel more confident and my thoughts of hesitation when approaching are shrinking
 

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wait_out said:
The point is not simply to say hi 50 times... it's to warm you up, and make you realize that the "stranger barrier" that divides everyone is a construct that exists primarily in both your heads. If you realize you CAN establish a connection with a total stranger within seconds, you understood the point of this exercise.

...

Obviously a lot of people in the modern world are wary, distrustful, or otherwise fvcked up but part of being a DJ is pulling women (hell, people in general) out of their sh!"tty mindstate. Don't expect people to give you a hand up... you need to climb the summit and then extend an arm.

Nobody should quit over something this easy... you need to absorb the lesson and keep moving forward. But the 1st step here is: eye contact, vibe, natural smooth hello. Conversation is for week 2.
I don't think this could have been said better!
 

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OK DJs, I'm at work now so I'll keep the update short. I finally completed the 50 hi's yesterday, having completed the EC exercises previously, so I am on to the next week.

There were a few awkward moments when people where like: WTF? :) but getting used to feeling uncomfortable is a good thing. Anyway, what I got out of this week:

- Passive vs. active - being proactive sets you in a winning frame of mind, even the small step that you take out of your way to go in the direction of a HB in order to make contact with her gives you a good feeling, a bit of confidence and pride that you're taking action toward your goals. This is something that should be a part of us (men) - a deeply ingrained habit.

- People are actually friendlier than they seem. If you're approaching them the right way, they're going to respond properly. In order to approach properly, you need the confidence. Don't take it personally if someone rejects you - it's the process you're using that's not working, it's not you. Big difference.

- As wait_out pointed out - this exercise is about warming up to conversations and approaching, about realizing that these are socially imposed barriers that are in our heads, and you shouldn't wait for somebody who doesn't acknowledge them, but rather "climb the summit yourself and then extend an arm".

- Most importantly, the moment when you feel like giving up. There's some magic to the moment when you feel like giving up because you're either tired, not in the mood or just things don't work out and then decide to KEEP TRYING. This is when great things start to happen. You promised yourself to get that 15 hi's today and you're stuck at 4? :) Decide to keep trying.
 

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Cmon guys, post your updates and whether you completed week 1!

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Anybody else is doing week2?
 

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Well I'm pretty straight forward really. I work at a hospital. So I see people every single day basically.

Sometimes I randomly say hi and start a conversation. But for the most part it was "Good Morning" and a smile in return. And with the patients I take care of. I alway managed to talk with them on various topics. One being their hospital visit. Then it goes from there.

I've seen some attracted girls that I was afraid to say "Hi" too. But I did and that was all. Sometimes I get shaken up because when I WANT to say "Hi" to that girl or individual. They are either staring at me from a distance and as we are walking towards each other and as soon as we pass each other she either glances towards wall or glance at her phone. But you look at me from a distance? Weird! And some instances I can go through the above situation and I would randomly say "Hi" and what do you know? "Hi" or "Good Morning" back to me.

So I guess it all depends on body language because sometimes I have the mood "Don't bother me". And people would pick up on that and they would just not say anything. But if I'm laughing or have a smile on my face. It's like a direct opener for them to say "Hi" and continue from there.

So in a sense I completed this challenge. I didn't pick up any numbers, or talk or hold conversations with girls I found attractive but I did say the "Hi" and smile challenge.

Glad that's over. Not that I didn't or don't  like it. But I feel way more comfortable now in a good way. I think also it's because I'm exercising a lot, eating healthy and taking care of myself more then I ever had. That alone is giving me a HUGE confidence boost. And the attitude of not giving a fvck and not caring what other people think of me. Those were the two biggest fears I had fighting against me. And I feel like I'm fighting those fears each and everyday. That's encouraging me, pumping me up, and giving me extra energy every single day.

Anywho, today I exercised and I was thinking about taking a shower before heading to the grocery store. But I said fvck it and went anyway. Running shorts, track sneaks and a tanktop. Sweating my arse off. I was just going up and down the isles looking for some healthy foods. A few girls I caught turning there heads and eyeing me and smiling. Ones in relationships and walking with their DUDES!!

Felt good. As I was checking out I walked near the exit. This cashier. She was attractive, short blonde hair. I had my earphones in my ear listening to music on my iPhone and we locked eyes for a few seconds. She will scanning the items and looking at me the same time. It was weird. I smiled though and I could vaguely hear her but she said "Have a good night". It didn't register with me until I was walking through the doorway and I said "You too" but I never looked back.

Hilarious. I liked this Bootcamp though. It will kick me into first gear (which it did) and get me through all the gears. I feel good and I thank you Impact for setting this up. I can keep you and everyone updated and it will be nice looking back at this thread when I'm far away from what I use to be.

My two fears that I'm tackling:

1) Letting other peoples opinion influence my decision rather than me taking my opinion in first.

2) Fear of rejection

3) Caring about what other people think about me.

I'm fighting those fears and I will be good and achieve and defeat those fears.

Thanks again. Sorry if this was long.
 
I'm ready for week 2!!! 
 

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update..........?

hey sup fellow djs, noticed week two hasn't been posted yet and it's 1 day past the last day for week 1......neways got about hmm three numbers on campus, and initiated texting already, got the hi's/eye contact down cuz i did a **** ton of them in the last two days.....

already seeing small improvements in myself when it comes to approaching/shyness/talking to strangers, tonight there's an engagement i'm going to so i'm definitely going to practice beign social, if yall got any tips on conversations i know it's a little in advance, but it would help for an up and coming DJ coming out of his 20 year old shell :p

bring on week 2!
 

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@BPH: good to see Delawarean here! I'm one myself! Nice to meet ya man.

This is weeks 2 challenge/lesson

Week #2 - Initiating Conversations With Strangers

In lesson #1, we learned how to convey confidence and approach strangers with a simple hi... Now we will practice small conversations (2-10 minutes) with ten strangers.

Expected time to complete reading and exercises: 3 - 7 Hours

I'm about to get started. I don't know what Impact is doing.
 
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Friday I started out my day by going to a local restaurant before going out and starting the exercise, talked to a cute waitress but didn't get the # (my phone has been disconnected so didn't bother to ask). Went to a water park with some friends later on in the day and talked to a lot of girls, even had this life guard girl walk around with me while i looked for my friends. The conversations seem to flow easier now and i don't seem to get nervous as much.
 

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bcolon said:
@BPH: good to see Delawarean here! I'm one myself! Nice to meet ya man.

This is weeks 2 challenge/lesson

Week #2 - Initiating Conversations With Strangers

In lesson #1, we learned how to convey confidence and approach strangers with a simple hi... Now we will practice small conversations (2-10 minutes) with ten strangers.

Expected time to complete reading and exercises: 3 - 7 Hours

I'm about to get started. I don't know what Impact is doing.

Hey bcolon, thanks for posting the challenge for week 2. I was out of town (at a wedding which lasted 3 days) and had no internet access. I had a KC and some play with a girl at the wedding, and still have her number, she came back in town today too, but she's not that hot so I think I'll skip her. Anyway, on to the exercises for week 2! See you in a few hours.
 
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