Stupid businesses that women start

[jafyk]

maybe Im reading into this incorrectly, but....what is wrong with a person that who is trying to start a business ??

I've seen some pretty bad ideas that have made money and gotten people rich and I have seen brilliant ideas that have barely gotten noticed and faded off into existance, but where is the issue here ?? who am I (or any of you) to judge, whats a good idea or bad idea ??

I don't understand why anyone would find humor in someone's failure to earn an honest buck without attaching themselves to major corporations ??

I mean, did these women do something bad to you ?? Are they doing something wrong by having an original idea and trying to earn money from it ??

Why or HOW could anyone find humor in another person putting effort into something to better themselves ?

I think that sometimes the ideas the women have are not well thought out or they decide to start some business but in the end it's some guy running it and putting all the effort into it. Still there are women who are exceptions and have genuine ideas and may still need a man to help her in pulling it off but is not necessarily taking advantage of him in the process. A few women I know who are trying to start businesses are married. So, what does that tell you? They are often times trying to help out the family. The only thing I hate is when they come up with an idea and then shift of the responsibilities to their man to take over. (example: when a woman insists she wants a house that is ok painted to a certain color of her choosing and then insists that her husband does the actual painting.) When it comes to things like women running business or doing things on their own I usually appreciate the efforts by the women who are single because a lot of times they seem genuine and are not using some guy as a means to an end. Especially if they can balance the independence and their feminity.

 

[backbreaker]

ah a post worth posting to.

My old oneitis came to me I want to say...4 years ago, with a "business idea". me, trying to fvck her said okay, what's up. and I'll be damned if she actually didn't stumbled into a novel idea. she wanted to create a website that let girls design cute tee shirts and print them out online. Keep in mind, this YEARS before skinit and all the like. there was little overhead, and for the live of me I could not think of a way she could fvck the business up, even if she wanted to. I was actually excited for her.

What happens? ah, everytime I asked her to do something for her "business" it never got done. I asked her to show me soem sites she liked design wise, I would get the site designed for her. too busy sucking off her boyfriend to put in the work. this goes on for about 2 months and I finally say screw it, if you can't take you seriously why should I

Mind you, Men are asshats too when it comes to business. I've had grown ass men (i'm grown but I mean like, 15 years older than me) come to me, asking to design their website for "half the profits in the company". when a dumbass says something to that akin I know from jump street that they no nothing about business, much let SG&A expeneses, revenue, liabilities, assets and anytyhing resembling intelligence. I am talking about like real ecommerce websites.

I've seen guys want to be the "next ebay" and not want to spend more than 500 dollars developing their web presence.

all in all, women don't hold the title necessarily when it comes to business ignorance.

I've actually seen a woman that owns a web design firm that's quite large, and she's on top of her ****. she doesn't play games, she demands respect, and doesn't play the I'm a woman card when she doesn't get her way.

 

[STR8UP]

Haven't run into too many women gung-ho about business for some reason, and that's kind of odd because I'm all into it. Actually i know one who has a dog walking service that's busy enough to need employees and everything. The thing with her is that the business has turned her into a total basketcase. She lives in my condo complex and every time I see her she basically runs the other direction. When I finally did get her stopped for a few minutes she explained to me that she was working 12-14 hours a day 7 days a week, and crying herself to sleep every night. She can't handle the pressure.

The other one that comes to mind is a friend of a buddy of mine. I guess she owns a couple of daycare centers and is rolling in money.

Mind you, Men are asshats too when it comes to business. I've had grown ass men (i'm grown but I mean like, 15 years older than me) come to me, asking to design their website for "half the profits in the company". when a dumbass says something to that akin I know from jump street that they no nothing about business, much let SG&A expeneses, revenue, liabilities, assets and anytyhing resembling intelligence. I am talking about like real ecommerce websites.

I've seen guys want to be the "next ebay" and not want to spend more than 500 dollars developing their web presence.

I know that you know a thing or two about business, so I am curious as to why you would think this way?

I know where you are coming from, but making a blanket statement like this (to me anyway) shows that you might be limiting yourself from some potential.

The thing is, if the concept is solid and the person behind it is solid, if you dismiss everyone who tries to do a trade out as "not knowing anything about business", you could miss out on some golden opportunities.

When I was a bartender I remember our company getting bought out by another. The new company came in and overnight we were twice as busy.

It seems that there were a few general managers who agreed to take stock in the company in lieu of pay while they were struggling to get off the ground. The smart ones that could hold on agreed. They got bought out and each one of those managers became a millionaire overnight.

Basically what i am saying is that although there are a lot of knuckleheads out there looking to get something for nothing, at the same time there are a few SMART entrepreneurs who get wealthy (and can make you a lot of money) by bartering to grow.

 

[Mr. Me]

Life coaching. That's another one. They haven't exactly achieved much in their lives, but they'll coach others on how to reach their goals. I've met several women that do this. Just came upon another. Her web site says:

"Coaching is not consulting in that the coach is not an expert or specialist in the client's life. Rather, the coach works with the client in drawing on their knowledge and wisdom to find the solutions that work for them."

Ah. Like I guess you'd imagine a football coach would say to an aspiring football player: "well, I don't know much about football but just catch the ball and run to the other end of the field in the way you know works best for you".

I've had grown ass men (i'm grown but I mean like, 15 years older than me) come to me, asking to design their website for "half the profits in the company".

Exactly. They give away a 50% partnership for matters that do not warrant a 50% stake. Then what happens when they face the next thing they need, say like a marketing campaign, give up another 50%? And then what happens next when they find the rent's overdue or they need more supplies or...? No savvy whatsoever.

 

[decades]

Life coaching. That's another one. They haven't exactly achieved much in their lives, but they'll coach others on how to reach their goals. I've met several women that do this. Just came upon another. Her web site says:

"Coaching is not consulting in that the coach is not an expert or specialist in the client's life. Rather, the coach works with the client in drawing on their knowledge and wisdom to find the solutions that work for them."

Ah. Like I guess you'd imagine a football coach would say to an aspiring football player: "well, I don't know much about football but just catch the ball and run to the other end of the field in the way you know works best for you".



Exactly. They give away a 50% partnership for matters that do not warrant a 50% stake. Then what happens when they face the next thing they need, say like a marketing campaign, give up another 50%? And then what happens next when they find the rent's overdue or they need more supplies or...? No savvy whatsoever.

another business where a pretty girl has an advantage because lots of rich desperate AFCs will hire a pretty life coach....

 

[backbreaker]

1. becuase say you sell I don't know... books online. explain to me how I am going to get 50% of profits and you have to still market, pay paypoll, taxes, and regular business expenses? plus if I had an idea that was really going ot take off, I'd buckle down, save my money and pay the 3-6 grand it's goign to take to get the website and keep the 100% for myself. like the above poster said that's not worth 50%. Maybe 5% if that. that tells me alot about the business owner. if you need say, 6 grand to get a good ecommerce site that will have everything you need, and you are so fvcking lazy and impatient where you can't buckle down and save 6 grand, you'd rather give up 50% of the company... you have shown me you are lazy, have no forsight, no patience and no critial thinking skills. all of which are needed to compete in business.

 

[decades]

1. becuase say you sell I don't know... books online. explain to me how I am going to get 50% of profits and you have to still market, pay paypoll, taxes, and regular business expenses? plus if I had an idea that was really going ot take off, I'd buckle down, save my money and pay the 3-6 grand it's goign to take to get the website and keep the 100% for myself. like the above poster said that's not worth 50%. Maybe 5% if that. that tells me alot about the business owner. if you need say, 6 grand to get a good ecommerce site that will have everything you need, and you are so fvcking lazy and impatient where you can't buckle down and save 6 grand, you'd rather give up 50% of the company... you have shown me you are lazy, have no forsight, no patience and no critial thinking skills. all of which are needed to compete in business.

nobody sane is gong to give away 50% of profits for website design....you make that offer if you don't expect profits but need the website done. a business owner can make profits as small as he wants simply by paying himself more, as more money comes in. the more he pays himself the less profits for YOU.

 

[STR8UP]

nobody sane is gong to give away 50% of profits for website design....you make that offer if you don't expect profits but need the website done. a business owner can make profits as small as he wants simply by paying himself more, as more money comes in. the more he pays himself the less profits for YOU.

True.

This is an extreme example, but highly successful entrepreneurs generally DO work on a bartering system to be able to grow quickly.

This is a minor example, but I recently hired an accountant to do some work for me. I found him on Craigslist, and was prepared to pay him for the work he would be doing. We started talking and I learned that he was looking to pick up more business and needed a logo, a website, print design, etc.

It just so happens that my company does some production work on the side, so I offered to do a tradeout. I got my accounting work done, and he got a top notch logo, website, and business card design. Win/win.

Saving up money is the slow way (although I realize that 3-6k isn't much). A true go-getter can start a successful venture with very little in the way of capital by knowing how to enlist the right team.

 

[backbreaker]

that's not the point start8up. someone saying "i'll give you 50% of all profits" shows nothing but ignorance in how to actually run a business. He isn't even saying I'll give you have an ownershiop stake in the company. that's bad enough but at least that person has a clue as to how compaines operate.

 

[samspade]

This thread topic reminded me of a female friend of a friend whose small business was trendy little t-shirts and socks and crap for dogs. How stupid, I thought, for a moment...and I am sure that dog apparel is one of the first frivolities to fall by the wayside during a recession.

However, it's not some woman's fault if there is an actual consumer market out there for worthless goods or services. And I'm pretty sure men for centuries have been manufacturing a lot of crap we don't need but a lot of people buy. If you want to start pointing fingers, point it at the idiot consumer who can't control his spending. I can't blame anyone for making a buck off of them.

True, some of these female entrepreneurs aren't taking the risk that men take if they are leaning on someone for funds like a dad or husband. But no sensible businessperson would turn down the cash, either.

 

[Mr. Me]

and I am sure that dog apparel is one of the first frivolities to fall by the wayside during a recession.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Folks that buy clothing for their poodles spoil them like little kids. It's their substitute children and their outlet for their yearnings to love someone. I'm not convinced they'd have the heart to tell poochie why they didn't get him that cute lil beret they promised him.

And I'm pretty sure men for centuries have been manufacturing a lot of crap we don't need but a lot of people buy.

Yes, big sellers like pet rocks and those plastic spiders you threw at a wall to watch it come creeping down. Which only proves that even with idiotic ideas for businesses, men are generally more successful at it then women.

 

[STR8UP]

that's not the point start8up. someone saying "i'll give you 50% of all profits" shows nothing but ignorance in how to actually run a business. He isn't even saying I'll give you have an ownershiop stake in the company. that's bad enough but at least that person has a clue as to how compaines operate.

Ok I see what you are saying now.

I think the important thing to note here is that a man might go out and offer to trade equity in the business or something else to help him expand, a woman will bat her eyelashes and possibly spread her legs to get the same thing.