AFK Protector
Master Don Juan
Anyone ever try this? How is it and is there any bad stuff about it? I googled it was it was all technical and was wondering if you guys had personal experiences to share.
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AFK Protector
Master Don Juan
ok thanks bro. I'm going near soy. No wonder this one girl ate like soy nuggets. I thought I should have some, but fortunately am too poor to afford that ****.
idiot_boyfriend
Senior Don Juan
Well, I'm lactose intolerant so I drink "Chocolate Silk". That stuff is awesome.... 
duke007
Master Don Juan
A researcher recently found that continuous consumption of soy will lead to male impotence.
I don't have a link, but apparently the individual sperms get surrounded by some gelatinous membrane making the slow-moving.
A little soy milk wouldn't do any harm but NEVER drink it daily.
I don't have a link, but apparently the individual sperms get surrounded by some gelatinous membrane making the slow-moving.
A little soy milk wouldn't do any harm but NEVER drink it daily.
AFK Protector
Master Don Juan
oh yeah definitely. She was a vegetarian and said for me to try the nuggets because it was tasty. So I checked them out but they were so expensive. So I just went back to not eating nuggets at all cuz they're fried.
AFK Protector
Master Don Juan
hm...impotence. That means I can't get a chick pregnant right? Maybe I will drink that stuff after I have a kid and ****.
Take from this what you will.
From "Ironman's Ultimate Guide to Bodybuilding Nutrition" by Peter Sisco:
Soy
Soy -- the stepchild of the protein world -- is the only protein missing from the superprotein formula. Before you frown in utter disbelief, you should know that soy protein has recently been validated by the scientific community as having benefits of interest to bodybuilders. The latest studies prove conclusively that soy protein has metabolism-stimulating properties. 10
It stimulates the metabolism by enhancing the body's production of the thyroid hormone thyroxine (T4), a key regulator of metabolic rate. Usually, the more thyroxine your body produces, the faster your metabolism. That unique characteristic makes soy protein very desirable. Think of the possibilities: a revved-up metabolism can help minimize the risk that the extra calories you've consumed in your weight-gaining quest will be deposited as bodyfat. For that reason alone soy is a must. It's also comforting to know that, with respect to amino acids, soy protein nicely complements whey protein and casein.
Because soy is high in several of the key amino acids found in whey protein and casein, it increases their potency. Specifically, soy is rich in the "critical cluster" of amino acids11 that consists of glutamine, the branched-chain amino acids, and arginine. You already know the benefits of glutamine and the BCAAS. Arginine, however, has a trait that few people were aware of until just recently. Many compelling clinical studies done with humans have found that arginine plays a key role in stimulating the release of muscle-forming anabolic hormones, including human growth hormone.12 Is there any doubt that arginine belongs in this formula?
10. Stroescul, V., et al. 1996
11. Protein Technologies International
12. Masuda, A., et al.
From "Ironman's Ultimate Guide to Bodybuilding Nutrition" by Peter Sisco:
Soy
Soy -- the stepchild of the protein world -- is the only protein missing from the superprotein formula. Before you frown in utter disbelief, you should know that soy protein has recently been validated by the scientific community as having benefits of interest to bodybuilders. The latest studies prove conclusively that soy protein has metabolism-stimulating properties. 10
It stimulates the metabolism by enhancing the body's production of the thyroid hormone thyroxine (T4), a key regulator of metabolic rate. Usually, the more thyroxine your body produces, the faster your metabolism. That unique characteristic makes soy protein very desirable. Think of the possibilities: a revved-up metabolism can help minimize the risk that the extra calories you've consumed in your weight-gaining quest will be deposited as bodyfat. For that reason alone soy is a must. It's also comforting to know that, with respect to amino acids, soy protein nicely complements whey protein and casein.
Because soy is high in several of the key amino acids found in whey protein and casein, it increases their potency. Specifically, soy is rich in the "critical cluster" of amino acids11 that consists of glutamine, the branched-chain amino acids, and arginine. You already know the benefits of glutamine and the BCAAS. Arginine, however, has a trait that few people were aware of until just recently. Many compelling clinical studies done with humans have found that arginine plays a key role in stimulating the release of muscle-forming anabolic hormones, including human growth hormone.12 Is there any doubt that arginine belongs in this formula?
10. Stroescul, V., et al. 1996
11. Protein Technologies International
12. Masuda, A., et al.
idiot_boyfriend
Senior Don Juan
Oh shìt...........
Alpine
Master Don Juan
I've bulked with it and without it and made no difference. The soy was just a 'vehicle' for the whey though.
You're 10 times better off using soy, if you even have the slightest cow's milk intolerance.
My preference is goats milk, but a tad expensive for most bulkers.
You're 10 times better off using soy, if you even have the slightest cow's milk intolerance.
My preference is goats milk, but a tad expensive for most bulkers.
MrFitness880
Senior Don Juan
i personally am not convinced either way. i do beleive that the scare is exaggerated, but im not sure if its valid or not.
With my understanding of human biology im inclined to think the phytoestrogens in soy are probably destroyed and dont act as exogenously administered estrogen in the body. Contrary to popular opinion hormones in beef havent been shown to affect in people who eat them. Also you would probably need large amounts to have any effect even if they did.
this would be something warranting more research on my part before i could give a conclusive answer.
do some reading on it. dont judge yet. the information here doesnt suffice for it.
With my understanding of human biology im inclined to think the phytoestrogens in soy are probably destroyed and dont act as exogenously administered estrogen in the body. Contrary to popular opinion hormones in beef havent been shown to affect in people who eat them. Also you would probably need large amounts to have any effect even if they did.
this would be something warranting more research on my part before i could give a conclusive answer.
do some reading on it. dont judge yet. the information here doesnt suffice for it.
Alpine
Master Don Juan
If it makes you impotent, how come there's so many Chinese?
AFK Protector
Master Don Juan
yeah..good point. My uncle has drank it for 40 years cuz he is lactose intoelrant and my cousin is pretty health.y
jaybeezi
Don Juan
tried it, found out I was allergic to it, didn't like it.
Alpine
Master Don Juan
Is it not true that Asians find the whole idea of drinking animals milk as repulsive, like drinking snot.
I found this hard to believe considering the are known for eating anything with legs and has it's back to the sun.
I found this hard to believe considering the are known for eating anything with legs and has it's back to the sun.
Who cares? So they have different beliefs? They think we're ****ed up cause we drink milk. We think they're ****ed up cause they eat animals that we wouldnt.
Just cause they don't have the same beliefs as YOU doesn't mean that they're 'wierd'.
Alexi
Alpine
Master Don Juan
Well first off, I care.
I'm interested to know whether it's true, and I'm interested to know if there is some reasoning behind it.
I'm interested to know whether it's true, and I'm interested to know if there is some reasoning behind it.