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Some tips from Tucker Max

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CLOSING THE DEAL:

1. You must not care if she comes home with you: Whether you realize it or not, you care if she comes home with you. You WANT to **** her, you're showing that you want to **** her, she knows you want to **** her, and because she knows you want to **** her, she has all the power.

The solution is not to hide your desire, because you can't do that. Women have very sensitive antenna for that ****, they will see through your deception. You legitimately have to release your desire. You have to stop caring if you **** her or not.

I know, I sound like ****ing Yoda, but I'm being serious--learning this one lesson increased my ability to close at least 2x.

Here is the dynamic: Desire is read subconsciously as a sign of weakness and desperation, and women are not going to immediately **** a weak or desperate guy. They may cede after he puts in work and commits resources, but not before then. Women are almost always most strongly attracted to power, and powerful men do not show desire because they already have what they want. And god forbid if you show desperation. You might as well staple rotting pork to your nut-sack, because you aren't getting anyone but starving rabid wolves in touch your privates.

Look at it from the woman's perspective--If she is even mildly attractive, she gets hit on all the time. She often has her pick of who to ****. The guy she is going to like, the guy who will stand out, is NOT the one that fawn over her, simply because all guys do that; the one that she has to work a little bit for is the one that will stand out and the one she will want. Whether she realizes it or not, she is looking at the guy thinking something like this, "Why is he so unconcerned about ****ing me? He was nice to me and seemed to like me, but now he's not pressing at all. He must have lots of other things going for him to be so unconcerned about getting me. I can't immediately have him, so now I want him."

I am simplifying to some extent, but you would be shocked at how accurate that paraphrase of the female sub-conscious thought process is.

From now on, when you are hitting on a girl, literally tell yourself: "I don't care if she comes home with me or not" AND BELIEVE IT.

THe irony is that once you are getting a lot of ***** it is much easier for you to act like you don't care. Take me for example. When I was 17-24, I would anything to get *****. I wanted it bad. Then I kinda figured out what I was doing, started getting it more and more, and so I started valuing caring less and less, and as a result of my chage in attitude, I got it even more and more and even though I put in less effort and cared less. Funny how that works.

Remember the story about the girl who fought her friends off 3 TIMES and crawled out of a cab away from them to **** me? It was because I never once sweated her, or even showed much concern one way or the other. For her, it became a challenge to get me (that, and she was pissed at her boyfriend). Had I made an effort to get her, the challenge would have been lost and she probably wouldn't want to **** me.

You took econ right? What drives up cost? Scarcity. The more she can't have you, the more she wants you, and she will read your lack of desire as just that: Scarcity.

Now, truly advanced game is once you get past a certain point, just laying it out for the woman: "Yeah, I want to **** you, but if we don't, no big deal." But this is way beyond where you are, and takes a much deeper understanding of mid-level game and the female psyche to work, because if you do that wrong it comes off really badly. We'll save that for later. You can't run a play-action pass until you establish the run.

2. You must assume she is already coming home with you, and act that way.

If any of you are in sales, you know the #1 rule of selling: Act as though the sale is made. Instead of saying, "Do you want to buy my product," you say "How much of my product are you buying?"

The difference is subtle, but has a very pronounced affect on the psyche of the buyer. You have planted the subliminal suggestion that they are buying, and framed the question as "how many" instead of "should I buy?" [Of course, people can and do back the assumption up, but much less than you would think].

This translates to game in very direct way. Once you have established a rap with the girl and it's obvious you both like each other, the question is not "Do you want to come to my place," but rather, "You ready to get out of here?"

Let me give you an example from my life that will show better than any explanation:

I went to a wedding about a year ago. At that wedding, I was talking to a girl, she was cute and kinda interested in me, but nothing big. This was until her friend pulled her aside and told her to stay away from me, that I had an "immoral website" and I was a player. So of course, the girl was now totally into me.

The problem was that she had come to the wedding with a date. She told me she didn't like him and wanted to hang out with me, so I casually told her she was welcome to come with me, I was going out drinking after the reception and I'd enjoy her company, but if not, no big deal. As the night went on the drama increased between her and her friends and her date, and I ignored it completely. The chickens were clucking all around me, her date was sweating her like a piece of cheddar left out in sun, but I totally ignored them all and acted like nothing was happening, talking to the girl when she came over to me and ignoring her when she was at her table with her date. At one point, the girl was sitting with her legs pressed up against me fawning over me, and her date came over and just stood there, basically staring at her and trying to insinuate himself into our conversation. I acted like he didn't even exist.

At the end of the reception, she was standing next to her date and a friend, staring at me across the room. I casually sauntered over to the group, looked at her and said, "You ready to go?"

Guess what she did?

Of course she left with me. But that's not all.

In the car, she immediately gave me the "I'm not going to sleep with you" speech. I completely ignored it. Didn't even pay an ounce of attention and talked about something else. We went someplace and had a few drinks, and then got in my car.

I didn't ask her where she lived, I didn't even ask her if she wanted to come to my place, I just started driving to where I was staying. When we were about a block from my place, it went like this:

Girl "Are we going to your place?"
Tucker [In a very casual, relaxed tone]"Yeah. I can take you home if you want."
Girl "Oh...no, it's OK...you can take me home in the morning."

We went to my room, I gave her a shirt and shorts to wear, got ready for bed, and once we where in bed I started kissing her and we ****ed all night.

Never once did I ask her what she wanted to do. The fact is, she WANTED to do what we did, but if I asked her what she wanted, she would have begged off at any number of places for any number of reasons. By just asserting my will I effectively made the decision for her.
 

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We went someplace and had a few drinks, and then got in my car.
This is a key part of this tip.
 

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Tucker Max gives solid advice. I particularly like this example of it. Like he says, you're not tricking the girl into going home with you. If your game is above pre-school level and she's genuinely into you, she will want to f*ck you. However, you need to do the leading so she can justify it to herself. "I had sex with him because he was so charming and manly and cool," translates into "I had sex with him because I really wanted to do it in the first place, and he made it easy by making all the moves so I don't feel like a total slut by coming onto him."

Oh, and taking a girl out for a few drinks doesn't mean anything. It's not like he gets girls so wasted they don't know what they're doing. That's called rape. Really, girls are in control after 2 or 3 drinks. If they are not into you and don't want to do anything, they WILL let you know IMMEDIATELY. A huge percent of girls TMax has sex with are completely sober, and go out drinking with him afterward.
 

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Tucker Max does give good advice, he has field experience and always knows how to have a great time, and is willing to try anything.
I suggest you read all of his stories.

--Mission
 

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Not to mention his stories are usually pretty funny.
 

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I agree completly, if you leave it up to her to decide if youre going back to your place shell never accept. Just act like its assumed (it really is) and shell go along wit yo pimpass. Women want a man.

jlazz said:
CLOSING THE DEAL:


2. You must assume she is already coming home with you, and act that way.

Girl "Are we going to your place?"
Tucker [In a very casual, relaxed tone]"Yeah. I can take you home if you want."
Girl "Oh...no, it's OK...you can take me home in the morning."

We went to my room, I gave her a shirt and shorts to wear, got ready for bed, and once we where in bed I started kissing her and we ****ed all night.

Never once did I ask her what she wanted to do. The fact is, she WANTED to do what we did, but if I asked her what she wanted, she would have begged off at any number of places for any number of reasons. By just asserting my will I effectively made the decision for her.
 

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This tucker max website is hilarious, there is some good tips on story writing on it too.
 

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jlazz said:
CLOSING THE DEAL:
We went someplace and had a few drinks, and then got in my car.
Key point if you want a DUI. Ha ha.

Peace.
 
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