"It's the law" is not a justification for a law. What kind of backwards logic is that? Laws should be justified to exist, not justified to be done away with.MacAvoy said:The fact is its the law, men know about it going into a marriage, if they want to avoid paying alimony, they can choose a better wife or have her sign a prenuptial agreement.
Danger said:And the sad thing is, your attorney is correct. At least as far as the current system. However a little activism can go a long way. Don't let others tell you to just give up. All it takes are some politicians with balls to set things right again. Unfortunately they are few and far between
WaterTiger said:I think alimony is a very out dated situation. It was a life-saver back in the 1930's-60's when women didn't work outside of the home after marriage. But now women can get their own jobs and support them selves.
Personally, I'd be embarrassed to accept it.
*Alimony should be UNAVAILABLE if the wife filed for divorce.
*Alimony should have a time limit. (No more than 5 years)
Alimony and child support should be based on "fault" by a preponderance of evidence, the same standard for any other civil trial. The problem is judges and courts are generally unjust and unfair. Men should be getting alimony a lot of times.WaterTiger said:I think alimony is a very out dated situation. It was a life-saver back in the 1930's-60's when women didn't work outside of the home after marriage. But now women can get their own jobs and support them selves.
Personally, I'd be embarrassed to accept it.
*Alimony should be UNAVAILABLE if the wife filed for divorce.
*Alimony should have a time limit. (No more than 5 years)
Whats messed up is the women having a history of violance towards the husband that goes ignored, if the women stated the husband was violant she would get 'everything', in this case, his claims still landed his children to be kept in the care of the sick bitc*.Latinoman said:
Wrong, it is everyone's role in changing it. The laws were changed into women's favor by public (female) opinion and they can and should be changed back by public opinion. Granted it's not going to happen directly from discussing it on Sosuave, but not too many men are going to succeed if they all ignore things that are detrimental to their success.MacAvoy said:There is no point in debating what the law should be as we don't have a role in changing it.
And we elect judges too. Obviously the feminist mindset and agenda has a strong foothold in government, partly because men allowed them to go ahead with it for so long, so it'd be hard to change it overnight.Danger said:I agree with ketostix, this is horrible advice. We are citizens and we decide the law. For evil to win, all you need do is nothing. Work with legislators, donate money to their campaigns, make sure they hear you and others on these things. Get involved.
Impossible, this will be almost has hard as finding a 40 year old virgin in the western sphere.ketostix said:If you could find a hot woman that hated feminism, you'd be set and free to really raise a stink
the laws were changed because of public opinion AND also with the notion of being progressive. Being progressive means not favoring guys according to these people. When they think of not favroing guys, they tend to overcompensate which is human nature... they will keep overcompensating and attacking men.. that is till a war breaks out and women suddenly need men to defend them again...:kick:ketostix said:Wrong, it is everyone's role in changing it. The laws were changed into women's favor by public (female) opinion and they can and should be changed back by public opinion. Granted it's not going to happen directly from discussing it on Sosuave, but not too many men are going to succeed if they all ignore things that are detrimental to their success.