Real Subliminal

[Biggie]

Anyone else believe in subliminal messages? I searched on google and came across this site that sells audio cds of subliminal messages and i thought I'd try it out. I have listened to hypnotherapy cds before and i really like them. The cd i bought for like 10 bucks is called Be The Alpha Male. I'll keep you guys posted on if it works or not.

 

[brokenupinside]

Your subliminal message worked,I'm off to buy some CDs.

Seriously tho,might work,it's all in the mind.Keep us posted.

 

[slaog]

I have subliminals running on my computer for the last 2 weeks. After doing some research, I've noticed that there are some people who say it doesn't work and others who say it does. There have also been experiments which have produced positive results so I decided theres no harm in trying it.


I'll bookmark this thread and if I see any positive results in the long term I'll say so.

 

[everywomanshero]

I wrote a literature review regarding peer reviewed research on subliminal messages. I actually posted some it here with references but it's probably long gone now.


Anyway, the gist of it is that people believe it helps them but tests of actual ability show no improvement in things like memory, math, etc. Basically, it's a sugar pill. If you need some insta confidence you can fool yourself with it, but otherwise it's not going to do anything for you.

Amazing the 2006 text is still out there, here it is

I found a series of studies by Merikle and Cheerman which proved subliminal tapes are big pile of doo doo.

Subliminal means in the objective since, that is they cannot tell they have perceived it and this has been verified by obtaining chance results when "forced" to answer multiple choice questions regarding it. There is another thing which is subjective, that is people do not report having seen something they actually did for reasons like they might be unsure of if they saw something or not. This scewed earlier results of a study by Marcel (1993).

The gist of these (look them up if you want details) is that if you give out a mixed bag of subliminal tapes to help memory and self-esteem, but label them randomly, people will report a subjective bias, that is they will think they have improved whatever the label says even though no improvement has occured. This is after 30days of listening each day. There were other experiements before this one, but this was the most damning since it used real-world examples in a way that has high ecological validity. There were also labortary tests under tightly controlled studies that proved objective subliminal msgs have no effect.

 

[slaog]

I wrote a literature review regarding peer reviewed research on subliminal messages. I actually posted some it here with references but it's probably long gone now.


Anyway, the gist of it is that people believe it helps them but tests of actual ability show no improvement in things like memory, math, etc. Basically, it's a sugar pill. If you need some insta confidence you can fool yourself with it, but otherwise it's not going to do anything for you.

Amazing the 2006 text is still out there, here it is

Here's what others say. I forgot to say that there are different types of subliminals. Flashed imagines is what I'm using.

Subliminal Advertising Proven to Work, Especially If They Are Negative

Subliminal advertising really does work, claim scientists who found that people subconsciously respond to flashed messages - especially if they are negative.

Researchers found that briefly displaying words and images so quickly that people do not even consciously notice, does nevertheless change their thinking.

They found it was particularly effective with negative images and words which could alter a person’s mood.

The phrase subliminal advertising was coined in 1957 by the US market researcher James Vicary, who said he could get moviegoers to "drink Coca-Cola" and "eat popcorn" by flashing those messages onscreen for such a short time that viewers were unaware.

His claims led to fears that governments and cults would use the technique to their advantage and it was banned in many countries, including the UK.

Vicary later admitted he had fabricated his results.

But more than 50 years on British researchers have shown messages we are not aware of can leave a mark on the brain.

A team from University College London, funded by the Wellcome Trust, found that it was particularly good at instilling negative thoughts.

"There has been much speculation about whether people can process emotional information unconsciously, for example pictures, faces and words," said Professor Nilli Lavie, who led the research.

"We have shown that people can perceive the emotional value of subliminal messages and have demonstrated conclusively that people are much more attuned to negative words."

In the study, published in the journal Emotion, Professor Lavie and colleagues showed fifty participants a series of words on a computer screen.

Each word appeared on-screen for only a fraction of second – at times only a fiftieth of a second, much too fast for the participants to consciously read the word.

The words were either positive (e.g. cheerful, flower and peace), negative (e.g. agony, despair and murder) or neutral (e.g. box, ear or kettle).

After each word, participants were asked to choose whether the word was neutral or "emotional" (i.e. positive or negative), and how confident they were of their decision.

The researchers found that the participants answered most accurately when responding to negative words – even when they believed they were merely guessing the answer.

Professor Lavie believes that the ability to subconsciously pick up fleeting signals could have developed as a way of picking up fleeting warnings.

"Clearly, there are evolutionary advantages to responding rapidly to emotional information," she said.

"We can’t wait for our consciousness to kick in if we see someone running towards us with a knife or if we drive under rainy or foggy weather conditions and see a sign warning ‘danger’."

Professor Lavie believes the research may have implications for the use of subliminal marketing to convey messages, both for advertising and public service announcements such as safety campaigns.

"Negative words may have more of a rapid impact," she said.

""Kill your speed" should be more noticeable than "Slow down". More controversially, highlighting a competitor’s negative qualities may work on a subliminal level much more effectively than shouting about your own selling points."

Subliminal advertising is not permitted on TV in the UK, according the broadcasting regulator Ofcom. However, there have been a number of cases where the rules been stretched.

In one particularly infamous case in 1997, comedian Chris Morris used a half-frame caption at the end of the satirical show Brass Eye to criticise the chief executive of Channel 4, Michael Grade, for heavily editing the controversial programme.

The description of his boss – "Grade is a ****" – would certainly have fallen into the category of negative words as described in Professor Lavie’s research

http://www.mindpowernews.com/NegativeSubliminals.htm

"10 scientific studies that prove subliminals work"