Quest to get a gf or get laid by Feb 32nd, 2039.

[Luke Skywalker]

Well, date with mortage broker yesterday went alright - no major crash and burns on it - but as usual no action other than a handshake at the end.

The prior gf I was writing about seems to have left a few messages which either my cell phone wasn't working or something, but I am attempting to contact her back.

It seems, unless a girl initiates anything in an obvious and seductive way, nothing's going to happen. I tend to talk to my mom too much about my personal life and tend to have her life a close friend, and I think I'm unnecessarily crippling my game.

Perhaps Epsi is right - what I'm doing is having a 'sex-fantasy thought life' that's totally contrary to my asexual reality and that creates lots of friction. Every girl that's in my life turns into some sort of mirage in a desert with this pattern I have....dont know what to do about it and if approaching girls is an answer to breaking such patterns if I can even escalate with women I'm seeing for lunch or dating.

Anyway - at least I've successfully stopped looking at porn since April 10th or something and masturbation is extremely infrequent as a result of my policies. I've felt more 'horney' so, maybe the more horney I feel I may just be taking some more types of risks - but even that doesn't seem to be working.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

It's still difficult to approach because I just feel like a friggen geek and dont think anyone would take me seriously.

The irony is, the hidden fears is if a woman really does 'take me on' I'll feel I messed up an 'opportunity' as I just shy totally out and not know what I'm doing, and if I bungle up an approach, it's another 'wasted' girl I cant redeem myself on again. To counter-act this, I also realize the obvious truth - most girls will likely ignore me or reply with polite one-liners to whatever I'm saying, so like one is relaxing on a fishing boat looking for a fish to bite, the same relaxed mentality should take over because in an analogical sence you are doing the same.

The other aspect is, when you are out of it, you just manage to cough up a 'hi' that gets ignored or think anything you say is going to come out like a dork. Well, I'll keep looking into this.

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In terms of internet profiles - I think my strengths, whether I like it or not, is in the way I express myself. My unique way is to listen to 80's songs or some sort of funky tune, and then act out the lyrics on the profile and sort of express something on there. It keeps the profile up-beat more or less and chances are, if you are having a good time writing something on there, so will the recipiant as she's reading the message.

Right now, I'm considering Billy Ocean's, 'Get out of my Dreams and into my Car' as the basis of the next profile concept after the existing profiles (probably boring) get worn down a bit more.

 

[traffic]

I'll tell you what I tell my brother.

Take whatever advice mom gives you about picking up and treating women and do the exact opposite.

Your mom has no idea how to pick up chicks. Don't listen to her.

Also, why don't you hit on more homely, geek girls? Obviously you're going to have to set a realistic baseline for you standards because, let's face it here, you're not going to be pulling tens for a long, long time. I'm not saying it's impossible, but you've got to become a man first, and tagging some geek girls will help you along that road.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

I'm talking back with the prior gf on my thread so seeing where that goes.

There is an 'perverse incentive' policy out, where if I fail to have a gf by September 1st, I'm going to relax nocturnal masturbation rules, and by October 1st, I'm going to legalize all masturbation and relax porn viewing rules (while still illegalized - may relax the regulations on it), or if it works out, then these things will continue to be banned as they are seen as the 'easy way out' in terms of sexual expression and relief. That policy shall be in effect up to December 30th. Unlike last year, no further sexcapades are planned for November this year because I'm quite happy with what I have experienced this year in terms of gf scenes such as:
- My first french kiss - and subsequent french kisses with her.
- Time spent at a beach where her legs were on my lap and i french kissed her there.
- Partially touching her but.
- She going into the change room and helping me try different clothes out.
- She massaging my back with both legs in either side of my body and my back against the front of her pants..
Thus I'm quite happy with the intimate moments/experiences and will pass this on October 25th - a control date where I will continue to ban porn/adult stuff from my life as agreed earlier this year.

 

[DanelMadr]

Stop concentrating on game and start concentrating to feel OK. Its your fears holding you down. Learn to be more carefree. Maybe you could get rid off your major fears easier way. Pay a hooker, man. And them resume dating. You are in Catch 22. Fake it till you make it doesnt work for everyone.

 

[saber]

I didn't read this whole thing but I have an idea.

Stop talking to your mom and get a motorcycle,tattoo,peircing or something that will make you look and feel slightly less dorky!!!

It also sounds like you kino skills are ****y...I just realized how much this is screwing me over too. Lance mason makes a great dvd on it.
A handshake at the end of a date??? wtf you should start every date with at least a hug. This will put you miles ahead.


Also I think internet sarging is almost pointless. But after REAL LIFE SARGING MY INTERNET SKILLS ARE IMPROVING HUGELY!!!!

Your mindset is really f-d up....if all else fails I would join the military and hope the can make you a man.

Im not trying to be an ass but its what I would want to hear if I was in your shoes

 

[Luke Skywalker]

I didn't read this whole thing but I have an idea.

Stop talking to your mom and get a motorcycle,tattoo,peircing or something that will make you look and feel slightly less dorky!!!

Tatoos and piercing is against my religion because I dont want the potential representation of demon-gods on my skin. The book of Revelation forbids the mark of the Anti-christ on the right hand and forehead, thus extrapolating that all body piercing and tatoos are potentially evil and devilish and part of cult worship. The point I'm making it's difficult to sell something to me that's totally out of my character and sort of bends towards 'worldliness' and believe me, an internet online advise about this from an online stranger isn't going to be sufficient peer support to do anything - my parents are the strongest moral influence in my life, and unless I move away I'm unable to follow these drastic types of steps. I cant even take dance lessons without problems in here.

The motorcycle - I have to get a license to ride those don't I?

It also sounds like you kino skills are ****y...I just realized how much this is screwing me over too. Lance mason makes a great dvd on it.

I'm open to looking at DVD's. If you have a link for it post it here, otherwise I'll check the search engine also. Think e-books and audios are a waste of time but DVD's may be ok.

A handshake at the end of a date??? wtf you should start every date with at least a hug. This will put you miles ahead.

Yeah, tell me about it.

Also I think internet sarging is almost pointless. But after REAL LIFE SARGING MY INTERNET SKILLS ARE IMPROVING HUGELY!!!!

I agree, I'm not really going anywhere on the internet, and it's as though my luck has long expired from there.

Your mindset is really f-d up....if all else fails I would join the military and hope the can make you a man.

I know people in the military who also have a hard time with girls online.
There is no simple solutions to this. I'm not going to join the military, or make drastic changes that are out of character with me just to please girls. Either I find a right girl who can be compatable or congruent with me or I dont, it's as simple as that.

Nobody gives advise on here to do things that are out of character to please women, that's putting women on a pedistle and premising everything towards getting laid. That's a sharp contrast to giving advise that may enhance masculine traits, but within the framework of my values, beliefs, passions and who I am.

You may as well say that I should, if I raise enough money, go on a mission in some foreign country or crusade, that's much more of a better investment then getting a motorcycle or piercings done because it's congruent at least. If you can think of improvements congruent with my values, faith and belief, then I think there is a potential of some real damage.

Im not trying to be an ass but its what I would want to hear if I was in your shoes

Hey, that's fine, I"m sure most people on here have long given up on me by now.

 

[ChapStick]

Luke, I'm new to this site... Keep posting what happens with you! I sincerely wish you the best! I'm sure many on this site have not given up on you!

 

[Flyer]

hit. the. gym.

 

[ToughLove]

he's ugly and has no confidence cuz of it - HIT THE GYM, above poster is right

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Well, meet up with the past gf I was talking about and she has really gotten cold on me. She doesn't want to even kiss me and wants to 'talk about it' next Friday, and continues to be unsure of what I want, etc.....

I may go along with this, but it seems that her tone is getting quite serious and I'm not sure what the deal is here. Physically I'm not totally into her as far as looks is concerned and I think I'm making some major concessions on that because I lack options - she is virtually flat chested and appears to have gained a bit of weight and she's Black, while I would like a dirty blonde type olive skinned complexion girl with boobs. But if the passion is really not there, then who the heck am I fooling, it may be better to just look at porn (which I intend to do restrictfully from October 1st onwards if I'm unable to have a relationship by that time) and stay at home then to be with a woman that I'm not totally into looks wise.

I dont know why she wants to have a 'talk', it's obvious that I have driven quite a distance to see her, I'm initiating moves with her, and I think I'm showing interest, but then again, if she feels that I'm desperate just to have 'someone to have a relationship with', then perhaps this is just going to backfire anyway and I should withdraw.

I'm not likely getting any action since I've heard once a girl starts downgrading momentum (i.e. starting to friendzone me, or whatever), then usually it just stays that way or becomes quite a difficult type of relationship.

 

[Docs]

She wants to have a talk because she lost interest and she's trying to figure out the best (or easiest) way to let you know.

Take the hint, don't even go to the talk.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

She wants to have a talk because she lost interest and she's trying to figure out the best (or easiest) way to let you know.

Take the hint, don't even go to the talk.

That's what I thought, but the last time I did that (a couple of months ago) she got dissapointed when I withdrew away from her for a few weeks, and she still claims to have been hurt on that withdrawal or fear that I'm going to dissappear again with this talk thing.

Again, she doesn't appear to be making any sence to me. It seems that she keeps questioning my interest and commitment level more than anything else.

 

[BannedGod]

not banned yet troll?

 

[Quiksilver]

Luke, I'll let you be my wing for a night. The bars in the King West area... You down?

I don't normally hit the bars with just one other guy(gives off the wrong image, eh), but if you pay for the brew... I'm sure we can manage.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Quicksilver,

I've never been inside a bar in my life, nor have I ever been drunk. This is totally alien to me.

I'm more used to day-game, such as bookstore, malls, stuff like that. Do you ever do day game? Is day game or night game better for you?

But if I change my mind about bars I'd certainly like to look into it.

 

[ToughLove]

Quicksilver,

I've never been inside a bar in my life, nor have I ever been drunk. This is totally alien to me.

I'm more used to day-game, such as bookstore, malls, stuff like that. Do you ever do day game? Is day game or night game better for you?

But if I change my mind about bars I'd certainly like to look into it.

you are not used to day game

you have NO game

u dont even have LJBF game

you are a homo living with his parents and not listening to a year's worth of advice given to you by people on sosuave

commit suicide, god will love you for it you *****

 

[Luke Skywalker]

commit suicide, god will love you for it you *****

Why dont you post your contact information so I can have you charged for making those statements you coward?

 

[ToughLove]

u cant charge me for making a suggestion

seriously its good advice tho......you're not even living a life anymore. You arent even trying to live a life

you are just existing uselessly. And like i said, you are NOT LISTENING TO A YEAR'S WORTH OF ADVICE FROM DOZENS OF POSTERS ON SOSUAVE WHO HAVE TRIED TO HELP YOU!

 

[Luke Skywalker]

u cant charge me for making a suggestion

seriously its good advice tho......you're not even living a life anymore. You arent even trying to live a life

you are just existing uselessly. And like i said, you are NOT LISTENING TO A YEAR'S WORTH OF ADVICE FROM DOZENS OF POSTERS ON SOSUAVE WHO HAVE TRIED TO HELP YOU!

You are a coward just the same and a coward's advice cant be listened to.
This is an anonymous forum and when you start writing things that you would not dare say infront of someone's face with a risk the other person could injure you if they got angry, or without an trace of identity - then you are a pure coward. So, why should I listen to your advice if it's coming from someone who is worthless, full of hot air, and probably spending his whole life in this forum while I only come her occasionally and actually have a purpose beyond women?