Alright guys, so I’ve been battling around this issue lately for a good 6 weeks since just turning 25. I know the age range on this forum is generally a bit older than my age, but there are a few outliers on the forum. So, I’ve been thinking WTF am I doing at age 25 wasting all my nights driving downtown to find parking, meet up with wings, pay club fees, buy a drink, and hit on a girl who’s not interested in meeting up for coffee or ice cream date later that week, or surf date (my DHV). Or worse yet studying and rehearsing PUA material at home when I should be reading a book on finance, marketing, law, entrepreneurship, the bible, a foreign language, or looking into expating a career to another country. The way I look at it is this: I could put in 2 years of constant sarging to get a fool’s mate to improve my sexual confidence that I never got in college ….. or I could burn the midnight oil and self-educate myself with lots of books to start a business that will free up my lifestyle of working the 9-5 grind and being able to afford a better lot in life. I feel stuck barely making 30k for a family busines and paying bills month to month while the cost of living in my popular city keeps going up. Time is my most valuable asset that I can't take back, so I'm trying to resolve my direction in life now, before I get out of my 20s. It is said 90% of the women out there aren’t healthy for LTRs, but I think the same could be said about men who don’t have their sh!t together. So why not become that 10% that women have to work hard to get health, inner game, and their own careers together. Make them qualify themselves hard instead of us being desperate to get dates with them by becoming the prize. As some mature DJs have been telling me about women they talk to in their late 30s/ 40s wished they had slept around less and guys in their 30s/40s wished they would have worked harder at financial independence. Settling down with a woman with baggage, or lots of sexual partners is what I’m preparing myself for due to my lack of experience in the dating realm while I continue to work on self-sufficiency. ***** So the question is do I pursue the sketchy lifestyle of the PUA or the road less traveled by becoming an entreprenuer Don Juan who's options pursue him instead? I think it was Marlimus from here who once told me with hard work any 7 could become an 8,9, or even a 10.