hi guys, this was not written by me (librito) Ive had this post on my computer for ever and read it all the time. I love it so much that I want you to read it too... here it is.....
Brother Kermit:
My mind has been fixated on the topic of Pain.
There is the AFC pain....
-The one-itis, feeling helpless and controlled
-The despair and hopelessness
-The loneliness
-The utter frustration
-The hope of things turning out the way they "should" be
-The inability to deal with how things actually are
-The anger at the injustice we feel
-Knowing some other guy is ****ing the girl you want
-Being cheated on
There is the RAFC (Seducer in training) pain....
-Thinking you got it going well, and then finding it isn't
-Putting in all your time in study and still not getting laid
-Trying a fool-proof new routine that works and it backfiring
-Dealing with more rejection in a short time than AFCs get
-Realizing the world is the way it is, not the way it should be
-Everything you were taught about women was wrong
-Finding out the truth about women and sex is more than you think you can handle
-Going over your past sarges, and now spotting where you went wrong
-Feeling like so much time has already been lost
-Trying different games to see which suits you
-Giving up on the ideals of romantic love in place of solid game tactics
-The sheer exhaustion of wondering when is it all going to work out for you
but after that....I mean after you get all that straightened out, it's over, right? You get good at this stuff and you never feel pain again, right?....wrong.
There is the Pain of the Master Seducer...
-Realizing those one-itis cases were never really you being in-love, you simply were seduced yourself, and now have deconstructed it so you can be free.
-Scoring consistently with the same game on different girls such that you feel like it is your tactics they really love, and not you.
-Having to break up with more women than you ever thought you'd ever date to begin with, and deal with break up dues.
-Banging a few married women, and feeling bad for their husbands, and carrying that with you.
-Having sex with a woman, who afterwards tells you about her bf, and you feel bad for him
-Getting to be the man that all women tell their sexual secrets too, and finding out how much they all are sluts
-Not being able to ever truly trust a woman again because you have experienced too many of them in the nastiest ways.
-Realizing that after all that *****, all you really want now is to just find one great gal to spend the rest of your days with, but that your standards have gotten so high, it is almost an impossibility.
-Realizing that love and attraction aren't necessarily real and that the right combination of game, tactics, and luck have played huge factors in most people getting together.
and the big one....(drum roll)
-Realizing that even after you get this part of your life under control, where you are only a sarge span away from your next steady LTR or ONS, because your game is soooo tight....that seduction alone can not fulfill all of your needs, and you still need to get to the rest of your life (career, education, family, health, etc.) in order.
And the point of all this?....
I was the worst of the AFCs when I started this. Been a long road. And when I finally arrived, turns out that I had a whole new set of pain to deal with.
The only thing I can say is that I am still glad that I am on "this" side of it. The pain of a master seducer is not pleasant.....but it is less likely to make a guy feel suicidal than the pain of an AFC. That I know from experience.
I not a master yet, but I am glad I traded up my pain, for something more manageable.
What I long for is to be able to feel for a woman love as deeply as I used to. As an AFC, my love for a woman was deep, hard, and almost all consuming. Loving til it hurts. (Like when you use viagra-like supplements, and end up with erections that actually throb in pain). Too much of a good thing. This kind of love for a woman can get a man ****ed up. It is dangerous, damaging and very unhealthy.
Now, I can feel for women, and because I understand them better, I have little resentment for how emotionally different they are from men. They are not bad, just different.
What I long for is to be able to have that level of undying love again, which seems counter-productive to the life of a seducer. It seems impossible that they are compatible.
The other thing I long for is this: I think I have lost faith in the ideologies of what I thought relationships could be. Supposed to be? Right now, I lack faith.
A seducer once said that if a woman is sexually satisfied she will be faithful. I have seen other women be faithful when they were emotionally satisfied. Done both. Still seeking answers to the truth of that long term...is one findable?
AFCs have 2 things that a seducer is not allowed to have:
1-The ability to lose themselves in emotions like a woman, and let the emotion (like love) consume them (one-itis)
2-The ability to cheat and lie to themselves, avoiding the truth. They can believe in an illusion for years (turning a blind eye to her infidelities, because they can not deal with the consequences)
It is easier to be AFC lazy than to be a pro-active seducer.
When I first got into the game is was because I wanted to eliminate pain. At the time, I was so consumed with what I was going through that it did not occur to me there would be pain if I succeeded.
Getting too good at these skills gave me a perspective that I could not have fathomed. I never considered how often I would have to be the one to break up with her all those times. I never figured how unpleasant it is, even if I don't like the girl anymore. I never thought that I would develop such a trust issue with women just because I got really good at getting them. I never thought I would become the slightest bit resentful of my talents and skills and long for the days when I could totally give myself to the illusion of love. See? I have to write "illusion" because it now seems like just one really big tactic.
I am almost complete in this development. I am not a full master just yet. I wonder....when I see master gurus and their primary relationships, are they as superficial as they seem? How many of them last? Can a Master seducer lose himself long term in a relationship like an AFC, when the game has become such a part of him? Some master gurus live alone with their pets....is mastering the game the reason? Again, I am still in the process. I am nearing the end of it. Will I emerge with these answers?
I find it ironic. Once upon a time, I thought I was going to have to settle for what I could get. Then, through most of the process, I thought I would never have to settle for less than exactly what I wanted....now, I am back to thinking I will have to settle. The only difference now is having to settle for a higher quality of woman. Even if I become the greatest most perfect seducer in the world, I am still a human being with all the faults a human being comes with. Guess what? A woman is a human being too, and no matter how great a catch she is, she is also still human with human flaws. Thus, I will have to settle. The perfect woman is one of the last illusions to shatter.
It is not depressing actually. I think at some point, it is just a matter of growing up. Having been a total AFC, I look forward to the day when every Kermit-like AFC can join me on this side of the canyon. It is one hell of a view.
Brother Kermit:
My mind has been fixated on the topic of Pain.
There is the AFC pain....
-The one-itis, feeling helpless and controlled
-The despair and hopelessness
-The loneliness
-The utter frustration
-The hope of things turning out the way they "should" be
-The inability to deal with how things actually are
-The anger at the injustice we feel
-Knowing some other guy is ****ing the girl you want
-Being cheated on
There is the RAFC (Seducer in training) pain....
-Thinking you got it going well, and then finding it isn't
-Putting in all your time in study and still not getting laid
-Trying a fool-proof new routine that works and it backfiring
-Dealing with more rejection in a short time than AFCs get
-Realizing the world is the way it is, not the way it should be
-Everything you were taught about women was wrong
-Finding out the truth about women and sex is more than you think you can handle
-Going over your past sarges, and now spotting where you went wrong
-Feeling like so much time has already been lost
-Trying different games to see which suits you
-Giving up on the ideals of romantic love in place of solid game tactics
-The sheer exhaustion of wondering when is it all going to work out for you
but after that....I mean after you get all that straightened out, it's over, right? You get good at this stuff and you never feel pain again, right?....wrong.
There is the Pain of the Master Seducer...
-Realizing those one-itis cases were never really you being in-love, you simply were seduced yourself, and now have deconstructed it so you can be free.
-Scoring consistently with the same game on different girls such that you feel like it is your tactics they really love, and not you.
-Having to break up with more women than you ever thought you'd ever date to begin with, and deal with break up dues.
-Banging a few married women, and feeling bad for their husbands, and carrying that with you.
-Having sex with a woman, who afterwards tells you about her bf, and you feel bad for him
-Getting to be the man that all women tell their sexual secrets too, and finding out how much they all are sluts
-Not being able to ever truly trust a woman again because you have experienced too many of them in the nastiest ways.
-Realizing that after all that *****, all you really want now is to just find one great gal to spend the rest of your days with, but that your standards have gotten so high, it is almost an impossibility.
-Realizing that love and attraction aren't necessarily real and that the right combination of game, tactics, and luck have played huge factors in most people getting together.
and the big one....(drum roll)
-Realizing that even after you get this part of your life under control, where you are only a sarge span away from your next steady LTR or ONS, because your game is soooo tight....that seduction alone can not fulfill all of your needs, and you still need to get to the rest of your life (career, education, family, health, etc.) in order.
And the point of all this?....
I was the worst of the AFCs when I started this. Been a long road. And when I finally arrived, turns out that I had a whole new set of pain to deal with.
The only thing I can say is that I am still glad that I am on "this" side of it. The pain of a master seducer is not pleasant.....but it is less likely to make a guy feel suicidal than the pain of an AFC. That I know from experience.
I not a master yet, but I am glad I traded up my pain, for something more manageable.
What I long for is to be able to feel for a woman love as deeply as I used to. As an AFC, my love for a woman was deep, hard, and almost all consuming. Loving til it hurts. (Like when you use viagra-like supplements, and end up with erections that actually throb in pain). Too much of a good thing. This kind of love for a woman can get a man ****ed up. It is dangerous, damaging and very unhealthy.
Now, I can feel for women, and because I understand them better, I have little resentment for how emotionally different they are from men. They are not bad, just different.
What I long for is to be able to have that level of undying love again, which seems counter-productive to the life of a seducer. It seems impossible that they are compatible.
The other thing I long for is this: I think I have lost faith in the ideologies of what I thought relationships could be. Supposed to be? Right now, I lack faith.
A seducer once said that if a woman is sexually satisfied she will be faithful. I have seen other women be faithful when they were emotionally satisfied. Done both. Still seeking answers to the truth of that long term...is one findable?
AFCs have 2 things that a seducer is not allowed to have:
1-The ability to lose themselves in emotions like a woman, and let the emotion (like love) consume them (one-itis)
2-The ability to cheat and lie to themselves, avoiding the truth. They can believe in an illusion for years (turning a blind eye to her infidelities, because they can not deal with the consequences)
It is easier to be AFC lazy than to be a pro-active seducer.
When I first got into the game is was because I wanted to eliminate pain. At the time, I was so consumed with what I was going through that it did not occur to me there would be pain if I succeeded.
Getting too good at these skills gave me a perspective that I could not have fathomed. I never considered how often I would have to be the one to break up with her all those times. I never figured how unpleasant it is, even if I don't like the girl anymore. I never thought that I would develop such a trust issue with women just because I got really good at getting them. I never thought I would become the slightest bit resentful of my talents and skills and long for the days when I could totally give myself to the illusion of love. See? I have to write "illusion" because it now seems like just one really big tactic.
I am almost complete in this development. I am not a full master just yet. I wonder....when I see master gurus and their primary relationships, are they as superficial as they seem? How many of them last? Can a Master seducer lose himself long term in a relationship like an AFC, when the game has become such a part of him? Some master gurus live alone with their pets....is mastering the game the reason? Again, I am still in the process. I am nearing the end of it. Will I emerge with these answers?
I find it ironic. Once upon a time, I thought I was going to have to settle for what I could get. Then, through most of the process, I thought I would never have to settle for less than exactly what I wanted....now, I am back to thinking I will have to settle. The only difference now is having to settle for a higher quality of woman. Even if I become the greatest most perfect seducer in the world, I am still a human being with all the faults a human being comes with. Guess what? A woman is a human being too, and no matter how great a catch she is, she is also still human with human flaws. Thus, I will have to settle. The perfect woman is one of the last illusions to shatter.
It is not depressing actually. I think at some point, it is just a matter of growing up. Having been a total AFC, I look forward to the day when every Kermit-like AFC can join me on this side of the canyon. It is one hell of a view.
