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Capitalism is the only sustainable economic model
http://mises.org/liberal.asp

The only reason socialism has been able to keep any of its economic goods functioning is because they copied it off from a free market equivelant.

funny that you blame an economic system that represents individual goals and different ends which is praxeologically compatible with human action, when the opposite would be slavery, the road to serfdom http://mises.org/books/TRTS/

To sum it up, prostitution is illegal because of the collectivist practices of government and theft people use to achieve certain economic goods. that is collectivism, socialism. our law and police system are SOCIALIST, nothing capitalistic about it. in a true society of liberty and individualism, no one could get people to pay money for a service that prevents obvious "no-victim" crimes from happening, no one would simply waste money on it if they had the choice to make by themselves. same thing with drugs.
 

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Kal0051 said:
isn't dating just a legal form of prostitution? Instead of directly handing money over most men will spend insane amounts on gifts/dinners/dates just to get pu$$y.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8052968.stm

Watch the first 30 seconds, and laugh in her face. Actually, watch all of it.
 

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What I'm a proponent of, is a system where we work and provide for ourselves, much like the way early man did, the way nature intended it to be for us.
If nature intended us to 'live like the early man' then why have we evolved to were we are now? Wouldn't the reality of our outcome be natural by necessity?

Look at the state of the current economy. A consequence of a Capitalist society. Need I say more. It doesn't have to be this way.
Yes you do need to say more. Much more, infact. We live in a more socialist country then fully capitalist to be sure. So this economy is a failure of socialism. If you take my property for the 'general welfare' you inherently steal my rights and properity. Doesn't that 'natural way of things' include rights?
 

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Hughman said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8052968.stm

Watch the first 30 seconds, and laugh in her face. Actually, watch all of it.
ridiculous, that woman just proved my point. Luckily there are women out there that aren't like that, I've met a couple over the years that had more money than me and paid for dates, drove me around and stuff. And all they wanted in return was breakfast in bed, lol.
 

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all girls are prostitutes. you buy them stuff (money), you get laid.
 

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I think the real reason prostitution is illegal is that the local governments get money off of it. Prostitutes basically get caught, go to jail, make bail, and then have to pay a fine. Lawyers, bail bondsmen, and the city get paid off of one person. When a prostitute doesn't get caught, she's spending her money somehow. The only person that gets screwed is the IRS since there are no taxes being collected. So to sum it up, local folks get the benefit while the IRS gets nothing.
 

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Its not legal because it never was legal. Blame the church for influencing the law. Some places are starting to change.

If you have a problem with it, then do something about it other than peddling around conspiracy theories.


Cry For Love said:
Capitalism is the only sustainable economic model
http://mises.org/liberal.asp
A capitalist market with some degree of socialism is the healthiest. You need government regulation to keep everyone in check. Ideally from a clean government.

A completely capitalist market is not healthy because it allows for monopolization far too easily. Companies would get too big too fast and squash or absorb competition. Which is bad. This is where regulation comes in to solve the problem with things like merger and antitrust laws. Regulation is however Socialist.
 

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Kal0051 said:
isn't dating just a legal form of prostitution? Instead of directly handing money over most men will spend insane amounts on gifts/dinners/dates just to get pu$$y.
You got that right. Also, the fact that the greater majority of wives(especially the hot ones) stay home all day strolling through the mall, yapping away on their cell phones, while their husbands bust their asses for 8 hrs., is another example. Probably the best example there is.
 

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dude04 said:
all girls are prostitutes. you buy them stuff (money), you get laid.
Yep, particularly the hot ones, which typically seem to be the ones who wh*re themselves out. According to the "men are providers theory"(which I don't agree with, but that's a whole other discussion), it would mean that women are "wh*res"(prostitutes) by nature.
 

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Cry For Love said:
Capitalism is the only sustainable economic model
http://mises.org/liberal.asp.
NO.. capitalism is the most powerful economic model..

The problem with excessive capitalism is:

For every rich man there must be 100 poor men.. who work to make each rich man rich.. that model or dynamic requires a constant supply of people to fill that underclass that is trapped into poverty by the system.. which explains why the mexican border will never be properly secured.. illigal mexicans are the clossest thing to modern day slaves in america a constant flow of them into the country is essential to keep enough folks working for next to nothing to keep the rich rich..


My point is that a capitalist system requires subjugation and disproportionate distribution of wealth.. its not designed to benefit all the participants which is destructive if you goal is to maintain a peaceful densly populated society.
 

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Alle_Gory said:
A capitalist market with some degree of socialism is the healthiest. You need government regulation to keep everyone in check. Ideally from a clean government.

A completely capitalist market is not healthy because it allows for monopolization far too easily. Companies would get too big too fast and squash or absorb competition. Which is bad. This is where regulation comes in to solve the problem with things like merger and antitrust laws. Regulation is however Socialist.
^^Exactly... but the greed that flourished during slavery never went away and that is the same attitude that drives the terrible form of excessive capitalism we see here today..
The rich capitalize on the poor until most of the country's capital is controlled by a few very rich people and the government is forced to take drastic action to re-circulate wealth to prevent a complete melt down of the country's financial system
 

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edger said:
You got that right. Also, the fact that the greater majority of wives(especially the hot ones) stay home all day strolling through the mall, yapping away on their cell phones, while their husbands bust their asses for 8 hrs., is another example. Probably the best example there is.
So true and 99% of those husbands spend even more money on their mistresses and stripper and call girls and the college girls they are Fing etc.. cause their wives wont put out...lol
 

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Prostitution is not legal because conservative redneck religious freaks rule over america. I can't stand conservatives and I hate religion even more. That's why your country is fighting a useless 'war against drugs' and why its economy collapsed.
 

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So everyone out there who lives in a house with heat, hot water, electricity is a loser?


The state of the economy is a failure of SOCIALISM. What else would you call a system where a Government Entity (The Federal Reserve) SETS THE INTEREST RATES? A free market capitalist economy does not have the Government setting the price of borrowed money.
The market is not allowed to be free ever cause that would cause wealth to flow in and out of the hans of the wealthy in cycles.. but the wealthy dont want to loose wealth so they tamper with the market and govt often helps them most times only the poor consumers suffer and get poorer to enable the rich to get richer... and most politicians are rich business men.. who are invested in the very companies they should be regulating..lol
 

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Captain Harlock said:
Prostitution is not legal because conservative redneck religious freaks rule over america. I can't stand conservatives and I hate religion even more. That's why your country is fighting a useless 'war against drugs' and why its economy collapsed.
Yeah bro, this place is so backwards, and then America has the nerve and audacity to claim the Middle East are a bunch of extremists and are backwards. It doesn't get any more hypocritical than America, as you all are so aware of back home in Europe. As far as I'm concerned, America comes in at 2nd, as far as religious extremists are concerned.

Hopefully one day I can find a job somewhere in Europe and get the hell out of this repressive hellhole. Maybe I'll teach there. I can't even have a normal, healthy sex life, because my country doesn't allow prostitution. Instead I have to travel 4,000 miles across the Atlantic to Holland to enjoy such a basic necessity.

I love Holland and its people. I get there as often as I can.
 

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Europe does have its problems, like how some countries like the Netherlands are very slowly turning into a police state, but we're probably more free than people in the US who can get into assrape prison for smoking weed.
 

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DonGorgon said:
NO.. capitalism is the most powerful economic model..

The problem with excessive capitalism is:

For every rich man there must be 100 poor men.. who work to make each rich man rich.. that model or dynamic requires a constant supply of people to fill that underclass that is trapped into poverty by the system.. which explains why the mexican border will never be properly secured.. illigal mexicans are the clossest thing to modern day slaves in america a constant flow of them into the country is essential to keep enough folks working for next to nothing to keep the rich rich..


My point is that a capitalist system requires subjugation and disproportionate distribution of wealth.. its not designed to benefit all the participants which is destructive if you goal is to maintain a peaceful densly populated society.
how is it slavery when no one is forced to work for anyone? Furthermore, how is it NOT slavery, when one is FORCED to pay taxes to the government, and if he decides that he doesnt like that arrangement of society, he will be imprisoned with by threat of a loaded gun ready to kill him if he resists.
Socialism and the statism IS slavery. The slavemasters may let you get a large amount of the pay back through benefits, and may run elections to give the people a delusion of having a choice( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqIx7au1pas&feature=channel_page ), but that doesnt change the fact.

Regulations? If there is demand for them, companies will use the services of such enterprises to remain competitive. How do i know this? Because that is how it works right now, when governments arent busy stealing those ideas from private companies by themselves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZONonx4umM&feature=channel_page

Government regulations result in MORE concentration of wealth, if thats what youre against
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KUfGRpWrXE&feature=channel_page
 

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Da Realist said:
I think the real reason prostitution is illegal is that the local governments get money off of it. Prostitutes basically get caught, go to jail, make bail, and then have to pay a fine. Lawyers, bail bondsmen, and the city get paid off of one person. When a prostitute doesn't get caught, she's spending her money somehow. The only person that gets screwed is the IRS since there are no taxes being collected. So to sum it up, local folks get the benefit while the IRS gets nothing.
I think you got this back to front a bit.

The problem with prostitution is even if its regulated its predominantly a cash business. Which means it becomes almost impossible to tax. The reluctance to regulate is not because its a financial win for the government (its not) but because from a financial point of view its very difficult to tax.

I agree with acw. Its a question of morality more then anything else. I just believe that prohibition does not always work (look at drugs and alcohol) and that regulating it actually reduces the "problem"
 

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I respectfully disagree with the OP. First, I highly doubt many expert economists will agree with the existence of extreme capitalism. Secondly, there is the fallacy of how things are during prohibition is how things will be without prohibition, that is to say there is the false assumption the action of prohibition does not alter the inherent constituent components of a prohibited act. Street hookers face controlling and abusive pimps, face potentially violent Johns, there are international kidnapping rings, substance abuse is rampant. As the argument goes, legalization would only further facilitate and encourage the perpetuators of these social ills by essentially hosting a fundraiser. Of course, however, the action of prohibition of any product will place it onto the black market of thugs with guns with dope, along with the absence of reasonable safeguards.

This same fallacy occurs with marijuana prohibition.

I also must disagree with Hooligan Harry's untaxability argument as it also commits the fallacy of how things are/will be. The black market is a cash market to avoid paper trails, so any product or service entering the black market will be paid in cash regardless of how would be the mainstream market. Secondly, if we look at somewhere as the Netherlands where prostitution is legal, tax revenues are thriving. Yes, indeed, there may be leaks of revenue which are unreported and evade taxes but this holds true for every business industry. I find the untaxability argument simply false.
 
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