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Master Don Juan
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So I'm gonna write up a little nifty OR here.... (Ok I lied this is LONG AS ****ING HELL)
I've just come back from living 6 days at an appartment that 3 girls live inn and at the same time 1-2 other girls were visiting/living there so technically speaking I've been living with 4-5 girls for the past 6 days.
First the girls and some disection on their personalities:
My analysis here are from my personal experiences with these girl from the past 6 days I lived with them + several parties and other stuff here and also by asking them alot of direct questions, making them open up, talking to them etc. So from my point of view I've gotten accurate and HONEST answers from them. Of course both their answers and my disections can and should be taken with a grain of salt because I'm no expert psychiatrist or expert in human behavior and well 5 girls is not 3 billion girls (eg statistically it's too low to make a good enough assumption to be a valid one).
HBShy: Yes this is my HBShy, I was visiting her. I was really only going to visit a couple days while going home and fetching some stuff but well it became a longer trip because well we had a blast and sex all day long isn't something I'll easily turn down not to mention she is SOO CUUUTE!
How is HBShy!? She is a very LSE, insecure and shy girl. In the beginning she had bigger issues showing herself in underwear for me in private than on the beach in a bikini. She has issues showing herself nude and she won't shower with me except after sex because then some of her blocks are removed.
I have met and dealt with TWO kinds of LSE/Shy girls. This kind that seeks validation and is so insecure in her own existance and the other kind that is VERY careful and places alot of value in emotions/not getting hurt. THIS LSE type, the type HBShy is seeks validation via sex and guys in general. I know she has easily had sex with about 15 or so guys and she's 18, it does not bother me but it was somewhat expected too. And she has alot of guys hitting on her, I think she daily got SMS/MSN msgs on the subject and she flirts with a couple of them. I find it funny.
With this LSE type they see sex as a way of getting validation and they also see sex as the only thing they have to offer. I had a couple of longnight talking sessions with this girl about her past etc and what I already expected really came forth. She openly admitted that she never expected anything more to happen. It took her over an HOUR to ask me if I thought it would be bad or inappropriate if she wanted more with me than just this.
This girl lives far away now (8 hour drive) but she visits often, I still do not place too much value in this so I'm testing out how to deal with her. What I've been doing is rather on opposite sides.
A couple notes:
HBShy has a very attractive friend (facial wise she is a 9 EASY but her body lacks). This friend is also a very sexual VERY CONFIDENT one. She is also HBShys roomate. Before meeting her (we met prior to this stay while partying where I live and HBShys parents live). Before this HBShy told both me and her roomate to NOT pick eachother up (she expected us to hookup, typical LSE behavior). She actually told her roomate to be a rude neghiting ***** but as you all know, that's the kind that I thrive on playing with.
So we have flirted since day one but of course NOTHING has happened even though she has attempted several times to kino me, make out etc but only when drinking cause this is the only time her inhibitions are low enough to forget the promisse she made to HBShy. Anyways I flirted with her, the other roomate and the other girls constantly, playing, flirting, wrestling, touching their tits, smacking their asses, pulling their hair etc. Dominating the house so to speak....
At the SAME TIME i'm more pasionate and more deep with HBShy, making conncetions, being abit emotional, validating her on my terms, showing her that I DO care and that she actually MIGHT end up with me in some way or the other. Reassuring her that her fears are unbased and what not.
This last part could NOT be done without the fact that I'm flirting alot with her friends and being who I AM. If I was viewed as just a general guy, a kind whatever guy, a guy that isn't sexual, direct etc it would just lower my position way too much.
This can actually be explained with a quote from HBShy: "I have never ever met someone as horny as you and never someone that shows it (that much)".
I'm abit torn about this in some ways really because this is a LSE validationseeking kind of girl, she expects SEX to be the one thing she can give even though inn my eyes she has so much more to give, kindness, her positive attitude (when she's not in LSE/whinemode), her shyness and kozyness etc etc. Anyways I said I was torn because I almost feel I had TOO much sex with her. 3-5 times a day, everytime she wanted to cuddle in bed I wanted her to jerk me of or **** stuff like that. Actually by day 5 she had problems being penetrated cause she was so sore. You see I'm here doing what she is EXPECTING, being a sextoy but at the same time I'm trying to show her she is not and that she has alot more to offer (Did I mention she is a chef-trainee and makes GREAT food!).
She also throws out alot of funny comments that can be seen as both ****-tests but also reassurance for her own beliefs and ALSO fishing for possibilities of more happening.
She will say stuff like "You want to **** HBSister don't you?", "You want to **** HBConfident don't you?!". "Hey if you want to you can go out and **** HBSister on the couch" and I'll say "Ye I'll bet you'd be happy about that hu" in a sarcastic tone and she'll be all "No I'd be very pissed and kick you out".
She'll constantly say it's okay for me to **** around just not her friends but then she throws in the "well you can **** them aslong as I don't find out about it". Stuff like that. Clearcut humour when you disect it.
We also talked about her prior sexual encounters etc and I gathered that several of them were "drunken happenings" but also not. She could have ****ed easily over 40 people IF SHE WANTED TOO but the reason as explained from her is lack of attraction. Which is supportive of what I've always said that attraction is the necessary fuel needed for laying a chick if we bar all the random sympathy ****s and what not girls give out. When trying to find out why exactly she ****ed me she said "it just was that way" or something to that extent, I know from her drunken ramblings that she found me very attractive, confident, funny, dominant and a ladies man.
HBConfident: This is the girl I talked about above that HBShy told me to stay away from and vice verca. She as I said has a very attractive face, she has style/class, she is HSE, loves to have fun and what not.
What I noticed with this girl is that if you are of high value/attraction then she will want validation from you! She will seek it, this became very clear in a late night talk me and her had about HBShy. She was very inquisitative about my relationship to HBShy, my feelings, what I wanted etc. We also talked alot about HBShy's nature/personality and it came up that she had asked us both to keep away from eachother.
Having partied with me a couple times I knew she wanted to have sex with me, it was something I knew from her actions and past events and that she confirmed. But then she started asking if it was not for HBShy if I would have said yes to her and done her etc. This is where the validation seeking started. I brushed it of with a simple "Hehe that is something I won't tell you" smirking which drove her abit frustrated.
But there is also more to it because she is in love with this guy which she seldom is. It is funny to see her behavior towards this. In private with me and the girls she's VERY extrovert, VERY sexual, "rude", talks about blowing a guy in a dollhouse, stuff like that but when that guy was around or when it's talk about him she is very introvert, very insecure, she needs validation all the time, reassurance that he will like her and does like her.
I mean this is a girl that would have jumped me and ****ed my brains out of I wanted too but she has slept in the same bed with this guy TWICE (well on her period one of the times) but NOTHING HAS HAPPENED beyond kissing. When they were seated in a sofa watching a movie they barely touched/hugged but at the same time it's kinda clear he likes her too (paying for gas to drive 1 hour to meet her, stuff like that).
He is also of the very shy/introvert kind (around girls, you notice it from his "boytalk" that around guys he's more outgoing).
It's very funny to see the dynamics between those two, I even pulled HBShy some out of her shell and kissed her infront of them alot to make them understand it was okay, they became more friendly towards eachother but not alot.
I've just come back from living 6 days at an appartment that 3 girls live inn and at the same time 1-2 other girls were visiting/living there so technically speaking I've been living with 4-5 girls for the past 6 days.
First the girls and some disection on their personalities:
My analysis here are from my personal experiences with these girl from the past 6 days I lived with them + several parties and other stuff here and also by asking them alot of direct questions, making them open up, talking to them etc. So from my point of view I've gotten accurate and HONEST answers from them. Of course both their answers and my disections can and should be taken with a grain of salt because I'm no expert psychiatrist or expert in human behavior and well 5 girls is not 3 billion girls (eg statistically it's too low to make a good enough assumption to be a valid one).
HBShy: Yes this is my HBShy, I was visiting her. I was really only going to visit a couple days while going home and fetching some stuff but well it became a longer trip because well we had a blast and sex all day long isn't something I'll easily turn down not to mention she is SOO CUUUTE!
How is HBShy!? She is a very LSE, insecure and shy girl. In the beginning she had bigger issues showing herself in underwear for me in private than on the beach in a bikini. She has issues showing herself nude and she won't shower with me except after sex because then some of her blocks are removed.
I have met and dealt with TWO kinds of LSE/Shy girls. This kind that seeks validation and is so insecure in her own existance and the other kind that is VERY careful and places alot of value in emotions/not getting hurt. THIS LSE type, the type HBShy is seeks validation via sex and guys in general. I know she has easily had sex with about 15 or so guys and she's 18, it does not bother me but it was somewhat expected too. And she has alot of guys hitting on her, I think she daily got SMS/MSN msgs on the subject and she flirts with a couple of them. I find it funny.
With this LSE type they see sex as a way of getting validation and they also see sex as the only thing they have to offer. I had a couple of longnight talking sessions with this girl about her past etc and what I already expected really came forth. She openly admitted that she never expected anything more to happen. It took her over an HOUR to ask me if I thought it would be bad or inappropriate if she wanted more with me than just this.
This girl lives far away now (8 hour drive) but she visits often, I still do not place too much value in this so I'm testing out how to deal with her. What I've been doing is rather on opposite sides.
A couple notes:
HBShy has a very attractive friend (facial wise she is a 9 EASY but her body lacks
). This friend is also a very sexual VERY CONFIDENT one. She is also HBShys roomate. Before meeting her (we met prior to this stay while partying where I live and HBShys parents live). Before this HBShy told both me and her roomate to NOT pick eachother up (she expected us to hookup, typical LSE behavior). She actually told her roomate to be a rude neghiting ***** but as you all know, that's the kind that I thrive on playing with.So we have flirted since day one but of course NOTHING has happened even though she has attempted several times to kino me, make out etc but only when drinking cause this is the only time her inhibitions are low enough to forget the promisse she made to HBShy. Anyways I flirted with her, the other roomate and the other girls constantly, playing, flirting, wrestling, touching their tits, smacking their asses, pulling their hair etc. Dominating the house so to speak....
At the SAME TIME i'm more pasionate and more deep with HBShy, making conncetions, being abit emotional, validating her on my terms, showing her that I DO care and that she actually MIGHT end up with me in some way or the other. Reassuring her that her fears are unbased and what not.
This last part could NOT be done without the fact that I'm flirting alot with her friends and being who I AM. If I was viewed as just a general guy, a kind whatever guy, a guy that isn't sexual, direct etc it would just lower my position way too much.
This can actually be explained with a quote from HBShy: "I have never ever met someone as horny as you and never someone that shows it (that much)".
I'm abit torn about this in some ways really because this is a LSE validationseeking kind of girl, she expects SEX to be the one thing she can give even though inn my eyes she has so much more to give, kindness, her positive attitude (when she's not in LSE/whinemode), her shyness and kozyness etc etc. Anyways I said I was torn because I almost feel I had TOO much sex with her. 3-5 times a day, everytime she wanted to cuddle in bed I wanted her to jerk me of or **** stuff like that. Actually by day 5 she had problems being penetrated cause she was so sore. You see I'm here doing what she is EXPECTING, being a sextoy but at the same time I'm trying to show her she is not and that she has alot more to offer (Did I mention she is a chef-trainee
and makes GREAT food!).She also throws out alot of funny comments that can be seen as both ****-tests but also reassurance for her own beliefs and ALSO fishing for possibilities of more happening.
She will say stuff like "You want to **** HBSister don't you?", "You want to **** HBConfident don't you?!". "Hey if you want to you can go out and **** HBSister on the couch" and I'll say "Ye I'll bet you'd be happy about that hu" in a sarcastic tone and she'll be all "No I'd be very pissed and kick you out".
She'll constantly say it's okay for me to **** around just not her friends but then she throws in the "well you can **** them aslong as I don't find out about it". Stuff like that. Clearcut humour when you disect it.
We also talked about her prior sexual encounters etc and I gathered that several of them were "drunken happenings" but also not. She could have ****ed easily over 40 people IF SHE WANTED TOO but the reason as explained from her is lack of attraction. Which is supportive of what I've always said that attraction is the necessary fuel needed for laying a chick if we bar all the random sympathy ****s and what not girls give out. When trying to find out why exactly she ****ed me she said "it just was that way" or something to that extent, I know from her drunken ramblings that she found me very attractive, confident, funny, dominant and a ladies man.
HBConfident: This is the girl I talked about above that HBShy told me to stay away from and vice verca. She as I said has a very attractive face, she has style/class, she is HSE, loves to have fun and what not.
What I noticed with this girl is that if you are of high value/attraction then she will want validation from you! She will seek it, this became very clear in a late night talk me and her had about HBShy. She was very inquisitative about my relationship to HBShy, my feelings, what I wanted etc. We also talked alot about HBShy's nature/personality and it came up that she had asked us both to keep away from eachother.
Having partied with me a couple times I knew she wanted to have sex with me, it was something I knew from her actions and past events and that she confirmed. But then she started asking if it was not for HBShy if I would have said yes to her and done her etc. This is where the validation seeking started. I brushed it of with a simple "Hehe that is something I won't tell you
" smirking which drove her abit frustrated.But there is also more to it because she is in love with this guy which she seldom is. It is funny to see her behavior towards this. In private with me and the girls she's VERY extrovert, VERY sexual, "rude", talks about blowing a guy in a dollhouse, stuff like that but when that guy was around or when it's talk about him she is very introvert, very insecure, she needs validation all the time, reassurance that he will like her and does like her.
I mean this is a girl that would have jumped me and ****ed my brains out of I wanted too but she has slept in the same bed with this guy TWICE (well on her period one of the times) but NOTHING HAS HAPPENED beyond kissing. When they were seated in a sofa watching a movie they barely touched/hugged but at the same time it's kinda clear he likes her too (paying for gas to drive 1 hour to meet her, stuff like that).
He is also of the very shy/introvert kind (around girls, you notice it from his "boytalk" that around guys he's more outgoing).
It's very funny to see the dynamics between those two, I even pulled HBShy some out of her shell and kissed her infront of them alot to make them understand it was okay, they became more friendly towards eachother but not alot.
