Quick introduction of myself (Scroll down if you want the actual question/topic of the post):
I've been out of the game for quite awhile. A women who lacked the integrity to be my girl got her claws into me and used them to cut my heart out. I'm not blaming her. It was my fault for not properly qualifying her. When you overlook character flaws because you see a nice piece, you get burned.
Anyway, I've recovered from the damage she did to my psyche but discovered I turned into an AFC as some sort of defense mechanism. I couldn't bear the thought of getting hurt again so I sabotaged my game so that I wasn't meeting any women who were [sexy enough, smart enough, strong enough] to hurt me. Stupid.
There was a time when I didn't have any trouble at all meeting women. I usually had one girl on my arm and a pair more waiting in the wings. Not that I was a "natural DJ" or anything. I just had deep enjoyment of life and being around people that drew people (both men and women) to me.
But I shut all that down and became an introverted bookwork to focus on school instead. Now I'm out of school, in the "real world" and it occurs to me I need to get my game back. I hunted down the DJ center as part of my reeducation and then discovered SS. After reviewing some of Ross' materials and listening to some of his tapes, I began to remember some of the behaviors I used to exhibit that seemed to be effective with women. I would often make a comment that was wildly unexpected. Usually for a laugh. When I had the girl giggling, smirking, or even just looking confused, I would hit her with a compliment and usually my old school favorite line "the two of us are really great together, this is fun." I usually reached over and touched her hand or arm as well. Hindsight being 20/20, I was distracting the girl, giving her a desired state, and anchoring. I did it somewhat clumisly but it still worked. (Isn't it sort of amazing how often people use NLP on each other even when they don't know what it is? This stuff is great because on some level it is all very intuitive.) I hope some of you who are more experienced with NLP/SS can shed some light on this.
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The actual question(s):
It seems to me there could a group of phrases that aren't weasel phrases in the traditional sense because you aren't using words that directly bypass the conscious mind, instead you are giving the concious mind something to keep it occupied so you can do an end around with your commanded states.
What is going on when you say something really off the wall to someone?
I heard Ross on one of his tapes, while going through an example use the phrase "Well that's just the difference between me." Try diagramming that sentence. It makes no freaking sense! Is this a good way to bypass someones' concious mind so you can insert a command?
My concept of this approach is this: you say something really off the wall, possibly funny, maybe bizarre, or even gibberish (such as 'that's the difference between me.') The concious mind becomes distracted trying to decode a message that is confounding because it was unexpected, out of context, etc. You switch tones/volume/etc and slip in your command directly to the subconcious while the concious mind is too busy trying to cope with nonsense you just fed it to resist being commanded.
Do any of you have other 'nonsense' phrases that serve this purpose for you?
I'd be very interested in knowing more phrases like 'that's the difference between me.' That type of thing comes off as sounding very unpolished, thus unpracticed, unscripted, and completely spontaneous/genuine. I think these semi-weasel phrases could be very powerful as both a second tool, and as something to give patterns more of a balance between being polished and being conversational. Your thoughts and experiences?
I've been out of the game for quite awhile. A women who lacked the integrity to be my girl got her claws into me and used them to cut my heart out. I'm not blaming her. It was my fault for not properly qualifying her. When you overlook character flaws because you see a nice piece, you get burned.
Anyway, I've recovered from the damage she did to my psyche but discovered I turned into an AFC as some sort of defense mechanism. I couldn't bear the thought of getting hurt again so I sabotaged my game so that I wasn't meeting any women who were [sexy enough, smart enough, strong enough] to hurt me. Stupid.
There was a time when I didn't have any trouble at all meeting women. I usually had one girl on my arm and a pair more waiting in the wings. Not that I was a "natural DJ" or anything. I just had deep enjoyment of life and being around people that drew people (both men and women) to me.
But I shut all that down and became an introverted bookwork to focus on school instead. Now I'm out of school, in the "real world" and it occurs to me I need to get my game back. I hunted down the DJ center as part of my reeducation and then discovered SS. After reviewing some of Ross' materials and listening to some of his tapes, I began to remember some of the behaviors I used to exhibit that seemed to be effective with women. I would often make a comment that was wildly unexpected. Usually for a laugh. When I had the girl giggling, smirking, or even just looking confused, I would hit her with a compliment and usually my old school favorite line "the two of us are really great together, this is fun." I usually reached over and touched her hand or arm as well. Hindsight being 20/20, I was distracting the girl, giving her a desired state, and anchoring. I did it somewhat clumisly but it still worked. (Isn't it sort of amazing how often people use NLP on each other even when they don't know what it is? This stuff is great because on some level it is all very intuitive.) I hope some of you who are more experienced with NLP/SS can shed some light on this.
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The actual question(s):
It seems to me there could a group of phrases that aren't weasel phrases in the traditional sense because you aren't using words that directly bypass the conscious mind, instead you are giving the concious mind something to keep it occupied so you can do an end around with your commanded states.
What is going on when you say something really off the wall to someone?
I heard Ross on one of his tapes, while going through an example use the phrase "Well that's just the difference between me." Try diagramming that sentence. It makes no freaking sense! Is this a good way to bypass someones' concious mind so you can insert a command?
My concept of this approach is this: you say something really off the wall, possibly funny, maybe bizarre, or even gibberish (such as 'that's the difference between me.') The concious mind becomes distracted trying to decode a message that is confounding because it was unexpected, out of context, etc. You switch tones/volume/etc and slip in your command directly to the subconcious while the concious mind is too busy trying to cope with nonsense you just fed it to resist being commanded.
Do any of you have other 'nonsense' phrases that serve this purpose for you?
I'd be very interested in knowing more phrases like 'that's the difference between me.' That type of thing comes off as sounding very unpolished, thus unpracticed, unscripted, and completely spontaneous/genuine. I think these semi-weasel phrases could be very powerful as both a second tool, and as something to give patterns more of a balance between being polished and being conversational. Your thoughts and experiences?
