Not masturbating likely has a minimal effect on your game

[handle]

If you're new here and one of your goals is to stop masturbating for all kinds of fancy benefits, best of luck to you. Maybe in your own mind it'll do something for you. But what you should be focusing on is social skills. If you want to masturbate go ahead... It's all about you feeling comfortable going out, being social, and having a good time while working on your game. **** that talk about testosterone buildup and such, developing your social skills far outweighs any of that. And hey, if you really need to feel manly, have drive, stop being lazy, whatever, go for a run or lift some weights.

Remember, the social sphere is where this stuff comes to fruition. If you aren't focusing on practice out in the real world, you aren't getting **** done. It's like one of those people who spends forever scheduling and organizing but still fails all their courses. Okay, I'm in college so my example's a bit specific. However, the basic idea still holds: as dedicated as you are, as prime your physical and mental condition is, practice is essential. So your goals MUST include, and should MOSTLY include things like going to some parties, hanging out with people, making connections... I cannot stress that enough.

 

[hover411]

the problem is jerking it CAN.....

kill your self esteem

kill your confidence

kill your motivation

etc.

etc.

if it doesn't effect you, jerk away.

 

[Waking Up]

Not jerking it motivates me to out and find a women and call them up, it works for some and doesn't for others. The point is that I was complacent when I was jerking, less energy and less motivated to go for women. Now that I haven't done it for almost two weeks, I'm suddenly thinking "Ok, I'm not going to clean my gun, so I'm basically forcing myself to approach." It's a motivational thing that makes you seek sex more.

 

[bornyesterday]

why are these cliche advices contrasted against stopping with masturbation? Are you having some problems there?
Cant make sense of this post.

 

[Ollie]

You shouldn't need to be horny to feel the need to talk to women...it should be ingrained in your head as part of your lifestyle. I have sex all the time between the four girls I've been dating and the new ones that pop in from time to time, and I still masturbate at least once a day. In fact, I can jerk off twice, have sex with a girl, then immediately after go to the grocery store to pick up some food and still feel the need to talk to women I meet there. I really don't see the correlation.

 

[handle]

why are these cliche advices contrasted against stopping with masturbation? Are you having some problems there?
Cant make sense of this post.

yeah now that I'm looking at it I can't either... I took a look at a lot of posts about the anti-masturbation thing and then didn't write a very focused response

anyway, I think what I was trying to communicate is that social skills you need become so ingrained with practice that whether or not you've done some mythic ritual (no masturbation being only one of them that's perpetuated here,) you'll be good to go when you're up and around people.

The post was unfocused and doesn't follow well, I'll grant you that. Cliché though? I feel that the cliché around here is to introduce grandiose, towering schemes of "inner game" or pet psychology projects. Yes, there are a lot of "get out and do things" posts, but I think it can't be said enough: get out and do things in the real world

 

[Waking Up]

You shouldn't need to be horny to feel the need to talk to women...it should be ingrained in your head as part of your lifestyle. I have sex all the time between the four girls I've been dating and the new ones that pop in from time to time, and I still masturbate at least once a day. In fact, I can jerk off twice, have sex with a girl, then immediately after go to the grocery store to pick up some food and still feel the need to talk to women I meet there. I really don't see the correlation.

For some men there's a greater inspiration to talk to women when they're feeling horny, as if they can feel their own sexual energy. Perhaps you're a natural who yanks it all the time and still gets women, fine. This isn't rocket science. Different methods work for different people, personally, I like to feel as horny around women as I can. It's helped my game.

 

[Wynston]

I dont agree with the OP.. Masturbation definately ebbs your sexual energy, men need to be driven by sexual energy. This is animal nature, your sexual energy builds until you gotta fvck something. There are many benefits to masturbation such as avoiding prostate and to some extents testicular cancer, but nobody masturbates because of this, they do it cos it feels good, but the fact is the next day your sexual energy will be lower, not your testosterone, its not chemical it's physical your sperm wants out man!! I have time and time again found myself more manly and confident when I havent jacked for a few days.. definately!! But I do agree that you should talk and flirt with girls at all times, its just I am more likely to when I feel like it not just for the sake of it!

 

[Jaggs]

Porn addiction can be quite harmful to ones self esteem and self image, and is much more common than one would think. (And of course goes hand in hand with masturbating)

If you frequently view porn and masturbate, try going 2-3 weeks without watching any porn at all and see if you succeed (If you do well done ).

But porn is the easiest way for the brain to get its primal urge of mating. It is as Rollo once stated, a huge buffer. Why go out and pick up real chicks (Hard to do) when we can just jump online and fvck our no maintenance girlfriends (All 100 of them! ). It is the easy way out, and in no way stimulates onself to go on and get a real girlfriend / bette rlife.

Porn is anti sex! (But pro orgasm).

Try cutting it out of your life and see the difference (Or if you struggle to in the first place).

 

[bornyesterday]

yeah now that I'm looking at it I can't either... I took a look at a lot of posts about the anti-masturbation thing and then didn't write a very focused response

anyway, I think what I was trying to communicate is that social skills you need become so ingrained with practice that whether or not you've done some mythic ritual (no masturbation being only one of them that's perpetuated here,) you'll be good to go when you're up and around people.

The post was unfocused and doesn't follow well, I'll grant you that. Cliché though? I feel that the cliché around here is to introduce grandiose, towering schemes of "inner game" or pet psychology projects. Yes, there are a lot of "get out and do things" posts, but I think it can't be said enough: get out and do things in the real world

Cool you agreed with me.
And I agree with you that going out and just doing it generally helps better then building up inner game. Doing things does all the good things and is supposed to be the endresult as well.
Working on inner game is more complex and it's harder to get results (partly because reward and feedback must come from yourself and not the outside world). Not everyone is equipped to do it, but for some, like me, it is the place to begin. Everything else follows from it.

It's just annoying that there are so many posters that can only see one of both ways. Inner game is not just about reading theories, sosuave, attending seminars and sitting behind the computer.
Just doing things without feedbacking, without contemplating and consciously learning wont get you far either.
Both are viable roads to becoming a better man, a DJ if you will. The ways are different but complement eachother nicely.

btw. Not masturbating much tends to make me feel better so I choose to keep that to a minimum. Preferably only when the stiffy is so loud that I cant hear anything else.
And porn has its moments but is best used seldomly. It keeps you home and is addictive. Like cigarettes I wouldnt recommend anyone to start using it.

 

[krakatoa]

i have masturbated before and i have stopped for more than a month now..once u stop, u will have more energy and u will feel more horny as well..how did i stop? its no secret really..when u feel like jerking just tell yourself "STOP" and dont think of it anymore..seriously this works for me..be prepared to feel really really horny in the coming weeks and u must not let ur hand go inside ur pants..but guess what..like every struggle there is a light at the end of the tunnel..after a month u wont feel the urge to masturbate much cause this thing is a habit and once u stop doing it..it stops..this is more like mind over matter really

 

[Rex Man]

....mmmm, poorrnnn.

I'm sorry, but did you just get done jerking off and then click the sosuave tab and make a thread? It's just a weird angle friend.

That being said, I have stopped masturbating cold turkey (for numerous reasons) and haven't noticed a substantial change in my game, so meh.

 

[r0cky]

i have masturbated before and i have stopped for more than a month now..once u stop, u will have more energy and u will feel more horny as well..how did i stop? its no secret really..when u feel like jerking just tell yourself "STOP" and dont think of it anymore..seriously this works for me..be prepared to feel really really horny in the coming weeks and u must not let ur hand go inside ur pants..but guess what..like every struggle there is a light at the end of the tunnel..after a month u wont feel the urge to masturbate much cause this thing is a habit and once u stop doing it..it stops..this is more like mind over matter really

I've heard that if you dont release your sperm for more than 2 weeks it starts to harden "turns into cheese". Have you noticed anything of the sort?

 

[bigpoppa650]

i been riding a 2 month+ abstinence wave and Im feeling amazing. My head is clear, I feel happy, and I am more confident. Surely not masterbating has something to do with that change...but I agree that practicing social skills is important as well but sort of in a different ballpark. I say not masterbating is like training so you prepare yourself to do battle, and going out there to work on whatever social skills is the match. You will fail miserably in the field if you don't train...DON"T MASTERBATE!

 

[MisterMcGee]

speak for yourself and only yourself big poppa.

 

[DonJuan11]

Porn addiction can be quite harmful to ones self esteem and self image, and is much more common than one would think. (And of course goes hand in hand with masturbating)

But porn is the easiest way for the brain to get its primal urge of mating. It is as Rollo once stated, a huge buffer. Why go out and pick up real chicks (Hard to do) when we can just jump online and fvck our no maintenance girlfriends (All 100 of them! ). It is the easy way out, and in no way stimulates onself to go on and get a real girlfriend / bette rlife.

Porn is anti sex! (But pro orgasm).

I read in a column that some twenty something girls were really angry that their guys would turn to porn instead of real sex with them, and they would eventually dump them and try to find guys who didn't watch porn. But then they would complain that sex with guys sucked big time who didn't watch porn.

Maybe women subconsciously want us to watch it!

 

[bigpoppa650]

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[LuisGarcia10]

It makes me more horny and kills my inhibitions around women if I haven't had a wank in while, but I'm perfectly capable of approaching etc if I have.

It would get far too much for me if I ever made an effort to stop it, it's perfectly natural so I don't see a problem? It only ever makes me tired at the time, I could have been wanking all day and I'd still want to pull if I went out in the evening.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

I read in a column that some twenty something girls were really angry that their guys would turn to porn instead of real sex with them,...

The idea that a man viewing / "using" porn is equitable to infidelity is a feminine operative convention - namely shame. Women masturbating is liberating or empowering, if not downright hypnotic and sexy. A man masturbating is failure, perversion and vile. Think of a woman masturbating for a man, and then think of a man masturbating for a woman; one is sexy, one is disgusting - Why do you suppose that is? What would be the latent function or purpose of this social convention?

It reinforces women's sexuality as being a prize to be sure, but if men can (and regularly do) achieve that same prize (or can simulate it well enough) her sexuality as a commodity is rendered valueless. Therefore male self-pleasuring deprives her of her first best agency with men.

Thats from the feminine side of the equation. The Buffer for men is that by chronically masturbating and rewarding himself solo, he loses the motivation to learn the social skills necessary to interact successfully with women.

 

[Four_Aces]

You shouldn't need to be horny to feel the need to talk to women...it should be ingrained in your head as part of your lifestyle. I have sex all the time between the four girls I've been dating and the new ones that pop in from time to time, and I still masturbate at least once a day. In fact, I can jerk off twice, have sex with a girl, then immediately after go to the grocery store to pick up some food and still feel the need to talk to women I meet there. I really don't see the correlation.

EXACTLY how I feel about this subject. Thank you.