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My Hubby is one of you, so plz explain.

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QualityGrl--

I would venture to guess the reason for your husbands lack of stamina IS the porn. Most guys have been watching porn since they were teenagers, and they 'train' themselves to go pretty quickly. I would bet money this is the root cause of his problem.

Unless you are a total dud in the sack, it's likely he has a porn addiction if he is foregoing sex with you to rub one out. I would not recommend watching it with him or going to a strip club since this will only feed the problem.

Also, why is he 'spinning plates' if he is married? Is it just that he supports the philosophy or is he actually seeing other women?
 

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QualityGrl said:
Hey Guys,

My husband is one you guys.. By that i mean he is all about being a non AFC and setting boundaries and spinning plates.

I am wondering why does my husband resort to porn when I am in the other room, and he knows I will not turn him down. I have mentioned the issue to him but he really hasnt taken measures to fix it, does that have anything to do with all the Non afc theories?
Or
Since he is the spin plates type do you think my inexperience is turning him off,
or

do you think he just doesnt want to have sex w/me until he fixes his problem in the bedroom (lasting a short time)?

And why doesnt he compliment my looks? I am a hot girl and used to many compliments, is this one of the non afc things that he is doing?

Thanks

Okay...There are two issues going on here.

The first is the sexual issue. This issue may or may not be related to the second but what it appears to me is that he has an issue with himself here. As someone stated above. It's the fantasy land issue with women. He needs to get off that stuff and renew his mind. Clear it out and make the sexual zone only for you. YOU are his focus, YOU are his object of desire. He will not masturbate or get off to anything else but the idea of YOU.

Why?

Because if he doesn't eventually learn to control himself for you, he'll lose you in the long run. I can't imagine he's getting you off before he does, and then maybe not at all? Which means you're often frustrated when he blows his load a minute or two after 'entry'. Is he getting you off at all? Does he make any attempts to?

The pornography is training him to get off immediately. It's also screwing with his intimacy dynamic. Ultimately it's going to destroy your sex life.

The second issue is more with him internally but he seems to have low drive right now to make a reality happen with you that he wants. He also seems to think complimenting you is unmanly. This may stem from other confidence/self-image issues so he reassures himself of his manhood by taking dating advice from this site and trying to apply it to an LTR/Marriage scenario which is not what it's designed for.

Also...Your plate spinning comment means the marriage is already being violated so you've got issue right there already.

As someone posted above. Make things spontanous with him romance wise and mix it up a little. He'll appreciate it.
 

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Don't worry about the compliments. Some people give them away freely while others don't. It's a matter of style and not related to how much he loves you.

"Experience" is overrated. Just keep trying new things with your husband. Let him know you're open to experimentation too. New positions, new locations, things like that. Eventually you'll learn how to satisfy your husband better than anyone else in the world.

The reason your husband was watching porn was either the lack of variety or the fact that you are not willing to pleasure him. He may have just wanted a quickie without wanting to turn it into full-blown intercourse.

If you enjoy pleasuring him you should let him know that you can give him a head/hand if he asks for one without expecting anything in return. If you don't like doing either then let him have his porn instead. Both of you win that way: he gets his quick fun and you don't have to do something you don't enjoy.
 

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First of all ! Do you understand what spinning plates means??? You say your husband spins plates and you are married!!!!! WHAT???? That means he is dating/having sex with other women and you come on here asking us why he is watching porn? I think your first priority should be to fix him seeing other women. I am sure that you didnt know spinning plates meant having more than one gf so ill move on.

In all honesty i dont think watching porn is a big deal. Many couples do it together than go at it afterwords... you should try it. You say he ejaculates prematurely ... that should tell you that he thinks you are hot because if he didnt he wouldn't even be able to get it up. You need to let him know that it turns you on that he cums so fast and ask him if he wants to go for round 2 , 30 mins after that. As for porn.... you can talk about it but dont force him to quit watching porn. If he likes doing it, it will make him miserable and we dont want that. IMO Communication is the most important thing in a relationship so you should talk to him about it but in a nice way. Non threatening and make it seem like its not that big of a deal. Hopefully that helps.
 

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I lived with a woman once. We had great sex, all the time, but for some reason, I slowed down with her. It had nothing to do with her or her looks. I think it was because of work schedules, and my breathing of toxic lacquer fumes all day making me too tired to do shyt when I was home. BUT, I still had a need for porn and masturbation. I was always anxious for her to leave so I could jerk off. I missed it, I guess, and it had nothing to do with her, I just got tired of the sex with her, even though, it was always good. Maybe it was because we lived together. I've been with girls, where a year and a half later, we never slowed down, and whenever we were together, we did it three times a day on average. But, once again, the second we'd part ways, I had my dyck in my hand. I cant explain it. It is an addiction, really.

Hope my story puts things in perspective.
 

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...and how did you find out about the forum anyway? Send your pic to have better assessment of your look.
 

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If he's one of 'us' then he is most likely a flaming homo who hides his perversion by pretending to like woman!
 

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Thanks for all the advice:

I made a lil mistake its not porn its pictures. To me its the same, but for guys i think they feel like its a HUGE difference.

Also, when I said he spins plates i was just referring to something that he used to do and chose it as a reference to justify the "he is like you guys" comment. I would definitely not be with him if he were still doing that.

All In all he is a great husband. Which is why I put emphasis on this particular issue.

Over the weekend he did bring up that i mention the issue often and that we argue a lot both of which effects his drive for me. I really haven't mentioned it close to a month now, and well the truth of the matter is that most of our random arguments stem from my anger at him for allowing this to happen in our marriage. And i mention it because i see it bringing our marriage down.

Trader: I think you might be right about his interest in the variety of girls, which is kind of annoying to me since he has had his variety and its time to focus on just one, which is me. But i dont think its really fantasy land for him since he is the type of guy TO DO THINGS and not to just sit around and say he will do things. Which makes this issue that much more confusing


Radiodude: You are right; this will effect our marriage dramatically in the long run and i dont think he really sees it that way because he is really focused on work or he just doenst look at it the same. He does try to umm..help me out in that department but rarely and he knows that a second attempt at it will make it better but never does go for the second try. I agree with the fact that he is screwing the intimacy dynamic which i think is very important in a marriage. And I believe he thinks this issue is associated with my gratification, which it totally does not. It has to do with intimacy and passion.

Since some of you have mentioned to spice it up: Ive tried to mix it up and spice it up but the more i try the more he seems to push it away. He actually has turned down my advances which has led me to stop my advances which makes no senses b/c he is my husband and i want to be able to make advances, and not be turned down when i do, totally a self esteem killer in that department for me b/c i never made advances b4 my husband so it took some building up to do that.

Anyway to end all of this, i have put a lot of time and energy into this issue. To be honest I have been dealing with this fir about a year now and I am just so tired and embarrassed of this issue. I love him and therefore I have done my best to fix this issue and i am losing all interest in finding the solution. In fact i think it has been a little degrading to me to even try to fix this issue since I am not a type of girl who should be dealing with this sort of THING. Seeing as he has not placed importance on this issue nor really has made much effort i will do the same and let this marriage take its own course. If he has chosen to allow this to become a damper and a deal breaker in our marriage then let it be so, but I know that I have really truly done my best and now its up to him to fix it. I am done trying, worrying and Caring about all this.
 

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QualityGrl said:
Anyway to end all of this, i have put a lot of time and energy into this issue. To be honest I have been dealing with this fir about a year now and I am just so tired and embarrassed of this issue. I love him and therefore I have done my best to fix this issue and i am losing all interest in finding the solution. In fact i think it has been a little degrading to me to even try to fix this issue since I am not a type of girl who should be dealing with this sort of THING. Seeing as he has not placed importance on this issue nor really has made much effort i will do the same and let this marriage take its own course. If he has chosen to allow this to become a damper and a deal breaker in our marriage then let it be so, but I know that I have really truly done my best and now its up to him to fix it. I am done trying, worrying and Caring about all this.
So you lost interest in your marriage because your husband's libido differs from yours and you take it personal? Many married men deal with this issue with their wives having a lower libido. If he has a certain sexual appetite then that is just how he is and there's nothing for him to fix. How old is he btw? How old are you?
 

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OK, I'll be serious.

This is a psychological issue - so those guys on here who gave you advice to prance around in sexy pumpkin skirt outfits while twirling a baton to get his sexual attention are not correct in their assessment.

What is the psychology behind this - the thing that you are looking for? His psyche behind his disinterest in you and more into his pictures? It is about fantasy!

He has you already - you are the real - so there is no more wonderment in that which is so readily seen! This is Victoria's Secret!'s secret! This is why the bible uses the term "Know" when describing a man who has known for the first time, his wife in her ENTIRETY - in the nude, where she is entirely exposed and made known to her husband so that he may take her virginity - and thus 'know" her like no other man has! before or since, That term is not used when describing a man taking a hor - because she is open to everyone who tickles her fancy - also, you can never really know a hor - because although they have shown you their nudity - they still hide their true selves - they put on a facade, so that you will approve of them, even though they do things that are not approvalable! This is exactly what the so-called Anti-Slut Defense is!!

ASD is actually an offensive tool and not a defensive one. Why? Because women know that for them to gain your approval - they first must act/seem like they are not what and who they truly are - a lie! So they pretend to seem innocent when they are guilty, so this is an offensive weapon to gain your approval, to accept them for who they are not! They are not the innocent creatures that you think they are!

So this ASD psyche, that all hors have, is one of a lie - because they know that they are going to have sex with you eventually - but they make it seem as though they are not, BUT, if certain criteria are met, like "love", which is really lust in disguise - another lie, or a criteria such as "on the second date", then you have someone manipulating you, making you believe that you are special, and the lie that she is also!. So this is an offensive action - appeasing to the male psyche, at the sacrifice of losing her femininty! . So ASD is an offensive weapon, on her part, not defensive ! So you, the man, are not doing the attacking - she is! It's a psyche game - a mind game!

Women know that, at their DNA root, they are not psychologically designed and thus suited to sleep with a man who is not her husband, and she knows that inherently, the male disapproves of a woman who has sex out of marriage, thus the ASD - or rather ASOffensive! This is why every guy asks themselves, "I wonder how many men were in her snatch?" - and some are bothered by the hor's revelations! This admission of our concern over the number of men who boinked her - BOINK - or whether she is a virgin. - tells us of our and her psyche!

She knows that deep down, in her feminine psyche, that our masculine psyches are designed for a loyal mate - and a woman who is loyal to her virginity, is loyal to her husband.- this is why men hate betrayal - and sometimes kill the betrayer over his rage over her infidelity! But a hor can never be trusted, because she "loves" every body and no one, at the same time, including herself!

Because she made the sex act a merely physical connection and not a spiritual one - her emotional longing for love and company is never quenched - thus her desire to cuddle - she is seeking affirmation that you are spiritually bonded to her as well - albeit after the deed has been done! And we know that the cart before the horse ends in a fallen state - the spiritual connection should come first and not be preempted by physical lusts! And we really never "Know" her, even if she is nude and showing us her all, since we know not of her feminine spirit! If a woman gives herself to another who is not her husband!! She robbed us of her femininity, but we did not rob her of our masculinity,

And her psyche is designed for Chasity - once away from chastity/virginity, her spiritual nature declines, because her physical lusts has overridden her spiritual nature - which is her femininity. This is the root of the unhappiness of many woman today - they are unhappy of who they are or their state in life, because it was by their own sexual desires/lusts, given so freely, that has cheapened the sex act, and thus lowered herself in the process, and lessened her value to her husband. So a woman flouting her sexuality too much to her husband, may repel him, because he is then reminded of her "cheapened" state ( a apparent physical but not spiritual being, lacking femininity, a hor) and thus visualizes a real or imagined infidelity!

So there is really never TRUE trust amongst individuals who had pre-marital sex, because they know that when a physical sex act is not accompanied by a congruent spiritual lifetime commitment, then there could be someone else that they see as attractive physically and would leave their spouse and follow his/her physical lusts into the arms of another - as it was this same physical lust that brought themselves together!

This is why women fear that their husband may go after a younger woman - a younger version of her! Since a wife, before marriage, allowed her husband and others to "Know" her physical without her spiritual self present, she lessened her power in marriage, because although she used her sexuality to get him, her husband has less loyalty to her since she has had other men - which affects the male and female psyche as described above - and thus he sees her as less than loyal-worthy, and already passe - so he MAY seek other arousal - the "NEW" arouses men!!

Some women allow their husbands to cheat, so long as he doesn't "fall in love" with any of them! Because she knows that a spiritual (love) connection overrides the physical lusts, and thus he will favor the other over her. So if a woman wants a higher probability of keeping a man's loyalty, then before you become a physical lustful union with others, become first a spiritual companion in marriage first - BE a virgin!

Oh yeah, your husband...I digressed and gave you the answer, at the same time.. the dynamic of the male and female psyche - and the fantasy that men seek , "newness" - virginity! To KNOW something, and someone, for the first time is a thrill - a thrill to our male psyche! Some men get their newness thrill from another hor - manipulated by her flesh - as his wife once did!

Were you a virgin before marriage? Pre-marital sex?
 

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ketostix said:
So you lost interest in your marriage because your husband's libido differs from yours and you take it personal? Many married men deal with this issue with their wives having a lower libido. If he has a certain sexual appetite then that is just how he is and there's nothing for him to fix. How old is he btw? How old are you?
he is 35 and I am 23 and i woulndt say i lost interest in the marriage. Its just the issue within the marriage, I still very much care for the marriage.
 

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He is dominating your relationship.. its ok as long as he treats you well and makes you happy.. if you are not happy tell him why and work with him to change if he wont then leave him.. if he is choosing porn over you then there is a chemistry issue
 

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usually i dont agree with DonGorgon's cynical viewpoints, but this time i think hes right:

TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT. sooner than later! you guys are married!!!! i might be young and single but read that again YOU GUYS ARE MARRIED. talk to him about how you are worried about your sex life....bring it all to the table: you have tried to "mix it up" and how he only looks at porn instead of fúcking you. ask him whats up. DO NOT be embarrassed, this is a legitimate concern. dont come asking us on the internet whats wrong, ask HIM whats wrong. do it AS SOON as you read this message
 

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You sound like a sweet girl who wants to make her marriage work. Unfortunately your husband sounds like a douche bag who only cares for himself. He needs to man up.
Men like him are the reason why nice girls like you become all screwed up. If he doesn't man up and take care of his girl in the bedroom its obvious that he is going to lose you.
But I am sure you did not make that clear to him since you seem to be the cute little quiet type who wouldn't dare say that to your husband. So do give us his sn on this site, we all want to give him a piece of our mind. He sounds like he knows how to get the right girl but doesn't know how to keep her.

I have to agree with most of the guys in this forum. If he doesn't change his ways show him the door.
 

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Agreed. No man has the right, while married, to put his sexual energy towards anything but his wife.

I Think this guy would find that if he stopped caring about himself so much,stopped the porn, and put his wife before himself like a married man should, that his marriage would start to go the right way.

The way it looks right now the marriage is going to go to pot because of his sexual fantasies.
 

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i understand where you are coming from.

first of all, according to me spinning plates and being in a relationship with some quality understanding girl is very different.

i might get with other women because that satisfies my thirst as a pua but when i have a partner i need to take care of, i should better.

i think he's new to all these stuff and he is not yet understanding where all this actually merge to. and ya, giving compliments too soon or too early or too much is considered a taboo in the community but tell me something, if he actually gives you compliments night and day, would u like it? i don't think so..but sure, every once in a while is good enough.

do something, ask him clearly if he is having some physical problems or something? and come on, you are a woman after all, you know you always have power over him...you can always make him feel jealous by flirting with other guys and being a bit aloof for some days....if he is really having a problem not relating to gaming, then he will not be able to change but if otherwise, he willl show his true colors and you have him again.

but be honest...see when you are dating, it's whole different but when you are wife to someone, you better be honest, that's what i feel at least.

take care.
 

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Girl - what is the frequency and enjoyment of sex now vis-a-vis before you were married? How big of a drop off was it?

Also - I am curious to exactly how often he is masturbating without you.

If he is just focusing all of his energy on career - then it's all good. Obviously if he is orgasming without you there, then he has issues.
 

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Psych,
Interesting post.
Though, I'm not seeing the full connection of a couple things:

PSYCHO said:
So there is really never TRUE trust amongst individuals who had pre-marital sex, because they know that when a physical sex act is not accompanied by a congruent spiritual lifetime commitment, then there could be someone else that they see as attractive physically and would leave their spouse and follow his/her physical lusts into the arms of another - as it was this same physical lust that brought themselves together!
So, Is there such a thing as "TRUE trust"? Virginity does not equate with trust. A person can trust on little more than things observed, actions and words. Should trust be lost by thoughts that are never acted upon. Nearly ever wife...and husband (or any person in any relationship) has considered and fantasized a different partner. It's nearly impossible not to do. Not simply because there is no secret left in a consummated relationship but because they are human and have thoughts (consciously, subconsciously, intentional, unintentional) that vary from their moral scale.

The feeling of trust is one that is assumed, sometimes rightfully, other times not. Though I am tempted to believe that trust for another is a combination of self as well as the person with whom the feelings are directed. It is the individuals job to seek out the feelings of trust( as many women often do) and/or to go on instinct.

There are numerous ways a person's trust for another is accomplished in a marriage (or in any relationship). So to say that true trust, or however you define the ideal trust that exists in the real world, in real marriage, is incomplete. Say were talking about married couples, with one or both partners possessing a significant sexual history, yet monogamous in their marriages. Is it possible they can have trust for another if they do not define value by the sexual interactions of their past?


PSYCHO said:
This is why women fear that their husband may go after a younger woman - a younger version of her! Since a wife, before marriage, allowed her husband and others to "Know" her physical without her spiritual self present, she lessened her power in marriage, because although she used her sexuality to get him, her husband has less loyalty to her since she has had other men - which affects the male and female psyche as described above - and thus he sees her as less than loyal-worthy, and already passe - so he MAY seek other arousal - the "NEW" arouses men!!
Wait a second---fear of a husband leaving is many things but is it possible that what you are trying to get at is the lack of spiritual bond accomplished before and during marriage? To that I would agree with you in the utmost for the majority out there.

Though to a point I understand your argument, that more successful relationships CAN be maintained when the couple has been abstinent, I fail to see why a relationship cannot be successful when a couple hasn't been abstinent.

Interesting subject all together...
 

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I haven't gone through the whole thread but you're husband probably can't afford viagra and so reverts to porn in order that you won't know he has erectile dysfuntion.
 
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