Mecca

[Tictac]

EtymologyEdit
1796 in English, from French, on ne saurait faire d'omelette sans casser des œufs (1742 and earlier), attributed François de Charette.[1]

ProverbEdit
you can't make an omelette without breakingeggs

1. In order to achieve something, it isinevitable and necessary that something should be destroyed.
   • 1796, Walker's Hibernian Magazine:[1]
     It was remarked to him that he had caused the death of a great many persons. Yes, he replied, omlets are not made without breaking eggs.
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Thank you Miss Grammarpants!

 

[phillies]

Ahem, have you not heard of the Oil Crisis of 1973? The US took the biggest economic hit from that and in some ways we still have not recovered. Just because a few thousand crazies decide that they want to attack people under 'Islam' doesn't mean that they follow it. There are several verses in the Quran that talk about war and violence. But there are verses in the Bible and the Torah too that do the same. Imagine if a religion says that you must love and care for your enemies even if they have wronged you because that's the right thing to do. Well, now imagine that someone just raped your mother and killed your dad while you were tied up, watching. If you love and care for that person, there is something fvcking wrong with you. You are probably Christian. Remember the Crusades? Yeah well, I got the explicit example from them....
(Should I generalize 31.5% of the world as violent, war-like murderers?)

Also, you can't just go out and kill nearly a quarter of the world population without people wanting to fight back. There won't be any more oil for the US anymore because you will piss off over 1.6 billion people (take into the SJW who say how it's 'not right') and then we will be living the same lives that they currently live. All we need to do is stop messing with the middle east. I mean for goodness sake, the CIA pretty much founded Al Qaeda in the late 70s/early 80s as a way to fight the Soviets and now they used it as an excuse to get into the other side of the world. But now that their leader is dead, Al Qaeda is worthless. So what happens next? We magically find out that there is another extremist organization and now have ANOTHER reason to enter the middle east. If the US stayed out of everyone's business, then maybe, just maybe, the world wouldn't hate us.

Oh wait, we still have redneck retards like you who believe everything that they hear on the news. No wonder why you've always sucked with women.

The life of Christ versus the life of Mohammed.
Mohammed was a conqueror who gained worldly political power in his lifetime and used it to persecute opponents and impose his religion. He also fully enjoyed the worldly perks of being a tyrant, including multiple wives. Jesus, by contrast, was basically a pacifist whose whole purpose on earth was to allow himself to be tortured to death.

He even explicitly forbade his followers to use force to defend him. Here’s John, Chapter 18: “Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest’s servant, and cut off his right ear…. Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?”

This does not imply that all Christians ought to be pacifists. But it certainly sets a tone for the religion. The life of the founder of a religion is held up to his followers as a model for how they should live their own lives. The life of Mohammed tells the Muslim that he should expect to rule, whereas the life of Christ tells the Christian he should expect to sacrifice and serve. Which leads us to a deeper doctrinal difference.

The distinctive idea here is not a belief in self-sacrifice—Islam, with its emphasis on the glory of dying in battle, has that idea in abundance. Nor is it the idea of a duty to serve others—Communist regimes were built on the idea that the individual exists only to serve the collective. Instead, it is the idea that each individual has a supreme and sacred value. Even Ayn Rand declared this to be the idea from Christianity that most impressed her.

Islam has no corresponding idea. The news is constantly bringing us a story of some imam somewhere declaring it consistent with Islam for a man to beat his wife, and the rise of the Islamic State in Syria has provided us current examples of Islam sanctioning slavery, including the capture and systematic rape of sex slaves. This is a religion that is still very much in the “rights of the conqueror” mode, in which the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.

Again, this goes back to the beginning. Consider the story, from one of the earliest Arab biographies of Mohammed, of Asma bint Marwan, an Arab poet in Medinah who spoke out against the rise of Mohammed. According to legend, he asked his followers, “Who will rid me of the daughter of Marwan?” (His version of Henry II’s “Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?”) One of them took it on himself to sneak into her house and murder her in her sleep. There are questions about the authenticity of the story, but the fact that it was widely believed and reported indicates the example Mohammed set.

To be sure, this brutal attitude is partly because of the backwardness of some of the quasi-feudal societies that are majority-Muslim, where divisions of tribe and caste still dominate. But then again, Islam hasn’t done much to elevate those societies, despite having more than a thousand years to do so.

The early history of Christianity vs. Islam
Christians started as a persecuted minority in a pagan society, so that gives them a certain comfort with being powerless. Those who find themselves out of step with the sinful modern world regard this as more or less the normal state of things.

The early history of Islam, by contrast, was further conquest and dominance, as Muslim invaders marched out into Persia and across North Africa. That’s why Muslims tend to look at the modern situation, in which other creeds and political systems are wealthier and wield greater military power, as an aberration that is not to be tolerated.

This history is connected to a specific doctrinal issue.

But when your prophet is the dictator, it’s more tempting to think that you can just mandate a perfect society. Hence the Islamist obsession with creating a pure Islamic State, usually with a special division of zealots who call themselves something like the Ministry for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice, whose job is to enforce a long list of intrusive religious prohibitions. An Islamic state is the kingdom of God brought to earth—exactly the approach that has been widely rejected at various points in Christian theology.

In today's world their is very few Christian terrorists, they aren't real Christians. The first testament was written by juice. The second testament is really what Christians follow which doesn't encourage to force people to convert, tax non believers, or strike fear into the hearts of non believers or to cut off their fingers and toes, the Koran says to do all of those things to do non believers, regardless of time.

People die every day because of Islam.

Trying to equate Christianity to Islam is a joke. The stories that do contain violence in the bible are contextual to certain events that happened at a certain time. It doesn't teach future Christians to commit acts if violence against non Christians in the future, it teaches love and kindness.

The verses of violence in the Koran are meant for all nonbelievers including the future. When the Koran talks about peace, it's towards Muslims only.

When the Koran talks about peace, it means the caliphate, which is for Muslims only. Every one else converts, become slaves or dies.

Mohammed was a pedophile, a murderer and a thief.

Study the Koran in its entirety and you will see. True Muslims who follow what the Koran teaches are violent, war mongering animals who want the caliphate to rule the world and only Muslims to be alive.



http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...zammil-hassan-convicted-beheading-wife-aasiya

 

[phillies]

Thank you Miss Grammarpants!

Obviously my point is that figure of speech did not originate with Lenin. Most likely it was Stalin who said that, not Lenin, but regardless it originated with neither.

 

[phillies]

So indiscriminately murder a million Muslims because you are scared of maybe 25,000 Islamofascists. This is cool with you?

Zeig Heil baby!

Whatever

Morals aside, ultimately the less Muslims their are in the world, the less radicals (Muslims who follow the Koran literally, word for word) there will be ,therefore the world will be a safer place.

This doesn't mean all Muslims are violent. Also you don't have to fear something to dislike it or be against it.
The meme above is suggest accurate. You can verify every quote on it.

Noel Ignatiev (born 1940) is an author and historian. He is best known for his work onrace and social class and for his call to abolish "whiteness". Ignatiev is the co-founder and co-editor of the journal Race Traitor and the New Abolitionist Society, a journal that promotes the idea that "treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity".[2] He also has written a book on antebellum northern xenophobia against Irish immigrants, How the Irish Became White. His publisher bills him as "one of America's leading and most controversial historians".[3]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev

Ignatiev, the son of Jewish immigrants from Russia, was raised in Philadelphia.[4] He attended the University of Pennsylvania but dropped out after three years.

Under the name Noel Ignatin, he joined theCommunist Party USA in January 1958, but in August left (along with Theodore W. Allen andHarry Haywood) to help form the Provisional Organizing Committee to Reconstitute the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party (POC). He was expelled from the POC in 1966.[5]

 

[Tictac]

Morals aside, ultimately the less Muslims their are in the world, the less radicals (Muslims who follow the Koran literally, word for word) there will be ,therefore the world will be a safer place.

This doesn't mean all Muslims are violent. Also you don't have to fear something to dislike it or be against it. View attachment 242
The meme above is suggest accurate. You can verify every quote on it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev

You justify the original appeal for mass murder based upon religious choice all you like. Keep posting your cute little pictures that have nothing to do with you being okay with mass murder. (Capitalism vs. socialism - seriously?)

Enjoy your juvenile fantasy, sicko.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

In today's world their is very few Christian terrorists, they aren't real Christians. The first testament was written by juice. The second testament is really what Christians follow which doesn't encourage to force people to convert, tax non believers, or strike fear into the hearts of non believers or to cut off their fingers and toes, the Koran says to do all of those things to do non believers, regardless of time.

People die every day because of Islam.

Trying to equate Christianity to Islam is a joke. The stories that do contain violence in the bible are contextual to certain events that happened at a certain time. It doesn't teach future Christians to commit acts if violence against non Christians in the future, it teaches love and kindness.

The verses of violence in the Koran are meant for all nonbelievers including the future. When the Koran talks about peace, it's towards Muslims only.

When the Koran talks about peace, it means the caliphate, which is for Muslims only. Every one else converts, become slaves or dies.

Mohammed was a pedophile, a murderer and a thief.

Study the Koran in its entirety and you will see. True Muslims who follow what the Koran teaches are violent, war mongering animals who want the caliphate to rule the world and only Muslims to be alive.

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...zammil-hassan-convicted-beheading-wife-aasiya

Lol, Christians don't believe Mohammad ever existed. But you said he was a murdere and a pedophile, right? Oh wait but he doesn't exist.

You can't agree on a single thing, yall just love to slander anyone who disagrees with you. Then again, you've got hundreds, if not, thousands of different versions of the Bible.

Have you actually gone to a Muslim scholar and read the thing?

Damn, I never knew people believed everything they read on the internet and saw on the news. I mean ****, the internet and news tell you NOT to believe everything they say....

 

[samspade]

They pose no real threat to you. Quit listening to government and mass media b.s.

 

[phillies]

You justify the original appeal for mass murder based upon religious choice all you like. Keep posting your cute little pictures that have nothing to do with you being okay with mass murder. (Capitalism vs. socialism - seriously?)

Enjoy your juvenile fantasy, sicko.

 

[Tictac]

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Yeah, you're a p*ssy.

Nice self-portrait you got there.

 

[phillies]

Lol, Christians don't believe Mohammad ever existed. But you said he was a murdere and a pedophile, right? Oh wait but he doesn't exist.

You can't agree on a single thing, yall just love to slander anyone who disagrees with you. Then again, you've got hundreds, if not, thousands of different versions of the Bible.

Have you actually gone to a Muslim scholar and read the thing?

Damn, I never knew people believed everything they read on the internet and saw on the news. I mean ****, the internet and news tell you NOT to believe everything they say....

You sound like you're 17. But yes he was a pedophile. Also early Islam was all about conquest and war and the Koran was their guide book. This is an indisputable fact.

"
The early Muslim conquests (Arabic: الفتوحات الإسلامية‎, al-Futūḥāt al-Islāmiyya) also referred to as the Arab conquests[2] and early Islamic conquests[3] began with the Islamic ProphetMuhammad in the 7th century. He established a new unified polity in the Arabian Peninsulawhich under the subsequent Rashidun andUmayyad Caliphates saw a century of rapid expansion.

The resulting empire stretched from the borders of China and India, across Central Asia, the Middle East, North Africa, Sicily, and the Iberian Peninsula, to the Pyrenees. Edward Gibbon writes in The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire:"

"Fred McGraw Donner, however, suggests that formation of a state in the Arabian peninsula and ideological (i.e. religious) coherence and mobilization was a primary reason why theMuslim armies in the space of a hundred years were able to establish the largest pre-modern empire until that time. "
The Koran was used to justify war and establish authoritarian societies. It's not hard to see this.

 

[phillies]

Yeah, you're a p*ssy.

Nice self-portrait you got there.

Here's your portrait

 

[Tictac]

Here's your portrait View attachment 244

You really are a sad case. You been out of your Mom's basement lately?

Or are you too busy worrying about 'Jewish bankers', the Rothschild 'ownership of the US Federal Reserve' (LOL) and Muslims to go upstairs and take a shower?

 

[phillies]

You really are a sad case. You been out of your Mom's basement lately?

Or are you too busy worrying about 'Jewish bankers', the Rothschild 'ownership of the US Federal Reserve' (LOL) and Muslims to go upstairs and take a shower?

 

[Von]

If you shoot at someone, you have to be expected to be shooted back

Nuke them ? Radiation travel around and damage the surrounding.... Like when treating a Cancer... you realize radiation weaken your body to the point you can get something else than Cancer.... the Cancer is never really dead... its just weakened to the core... eventually in 60% of case, Cancers come back to hit you...

Beside, would you nuke your own cities?

 

[Tictac]

If you shoot at someone, you have to be expected to be shooted back

Nuke them ? Radiation travel around and damage the surrounding.... Like when treating a Cancer... you realize radiation weaken your body to the point you can get something else than Cancer.... the Cancer is never really dead... its just weakened to the core... eventually in 60% of case, Cancers come back to hit you...

Beside, would you nuke your own cities?

It's a little boy fantasy, borne of fear, ignorance, arrested development and closed minds, nothing more. None of these guys have ever been off of their own streets.

 

[phillies]

It's a little boy fantasy, borne of fear, ignorance, arrested development and closed minds, nothing more. None of these guys have ever been off of their own streets.

 

[Tictac]

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I know @phillies. Typing and spelling are just so difficult.

Go see if a Jewish banker or an Islamofascist is at the door!

 

[Jaylan]

Such a stupid thread with fools chiming in who have no idea the massive damage the United States will do to itself if it were ever to use a nuclear weapon again.


In today's day and age, many nations have nukes(including those that hate us), and everyone knows the total devastation of those weapons.

This isn't the 40s where countries had never seen the true damage nukes could cause during a time where many nations didn't have those weapons.

Mutually Assured Destruction is real thing. If the US used anuke, they'd better be prepared to lose hundreds of thousands of American lives to a similar attack from an enemy nation or terrorist getting help from our enemies.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Crusades are not relevant here. How long ago did the Crusades occur?

Although Wahhabism is at the root of the problem, these degenerates live under their perverted set of beliefs.

From the most conservative to the most liberal of their lot. One would be inclined to believe they would purge the Western way of life if given the chance.

They stone women for committing adultery. They are an invasive species.

I'm still waiting for the individual who will explain to me the following: If they don't like our way of life, why do they come here? Why can't they assimilate into the country them come to? Why does the host country have to accomodate for them? Why do they demand respect for their beliefs but can't return the same?

And if one believes this does not directly affect them, please think again!

The people of France & Belgium would beg to differ. One does not know the moment where they'll fall victim to it.

The Saudis are an ally of convenience, just like Turkey.

One should take note of the fact that Wahhabism originated in Saudi Arabia & has a considerable following.

 

[phillies]

Crusades are not relevant here. How long ago did the Crusades occur?

Although Wahhabism is at the root of the problem, these degenerates live under their perverted set of beliefs.

From the most conservative to the most liberal of their lot. One would be inclined to believe they would purge the Western way of life if given the chance.

They stone women for committing adultery. They are an invasive species.

I'm still waiting for the individual who will explain to me the following: If they don't like our way of life, why do they come here? Why can't they assimilate into the country them come to? Why does the host country have to accomodate for them? Why do they demand respect for their beliefs but can't return the same?

And if one believes this does not directly affect them, please think again!

The people of France & Belgium would beg to differ. One does not know the moment where they'll fall victim to it.

The Saudis are an ally of convenience, just like Turkey.

One should take note of the fact that Wahhabism originated in Saudi Arabia & has a considerable following.

Of course they would purge western culture. They want fill control. They want sharia law. Islam is not compatible with democracy or freedom.

These imbeciles don't get that. Muslims aren't peaceful. Just because some Muslims may not act out on their radicalism doesn't mean they condone it. If they condone it they should be treated like a radical.

Muslims were cheering in the streets after the attack in France.

You have to be a brainwashed sheep to think it's ok to allow Muslims in Europe or the U.S. the more that are allowed in and the more concentrated they are the worse it will get.

Allowing them to come and leech off the welfare system and breed is insane and anti-social.

These refugees bring no value to western societies. They only bring problems. I don't care if a few aren't crazy.

Hopefully Europe gets smart and either starts heavily policing Muslims, or removes them and returns them to where they came from.