I never tried to start a pissing contest. I keep my references to anatomy very simple when I post here so that people can understand what I'm saying.
Originally posted by Heizen
Keeping your back arched IS correct
I never denied this.
it is the way I lift and the way I was taught by people who lift a LOT more weight then me and know their ****.
This alone is no measure of expertise. I see guys in power lifting gyms lifting huge weight with poor and ever dangerous technique.
This is one of the biggest mistakes people make in gyms, and is the reason such poor lifting techniques perpetuate. People see bigger guys lifting a certain way and decide it must be better. Often its not.
if you want to reduce the ROM while keeping yourself efficient ala PL'ers, you let your shoulders fall forward a little bit.
I am familiar with the way powerlifters lift. I train two PL's, one of whom DL's 260kg (580lbs) for 8 reps. Not bad for a 44 yr old guy. Both of them work to keep their shoulders back during the lift to help stick their chest out. Both have massive lats.
I train the same way, my lats get well fired too.
I didn't say relax your shoulders.
You said its ok to roll them forward. It's not. It's poor technique, will develop poor posture, and won't activate many of the muscles in your back that become activated. For the record those include the supraspinatus, infraspinatus, rhomboid major and minor, latissimus dorsi, and to a lesser extent teres major & minor and trapezius activation.
I'd like to point out, you didn't say jack except agree with sweet cheeks. Hence you DIDN'T say any muscles, and you completetly misread my post so you could start a stupid pissing contest about deadlifting. Oh wait, you said lats. My bad! You said one muscle then.
Thats quite childish. And, aside from the sarcasm, I'm not sure what point you're trying to convey.
As I mentioned above, I don't use complex names much when I post here so that all may understand. If it strokes your ego to tell the world that you know some fancy names, good for you. You're obviously a very special boy.
Personally, I lack that same insecure need for validation, so I am content to write things simply so the masses can keep up.
My previous post, the one that seems to have struck a nerve with you, was tongue in cheek and not meant to start a pissing contest. Posting on this site largely bores me but I don't want newbie lifters walking away with bad advice, so sometimes - often - I post to clear things up or point out bad advice so nobody does themselves a mischief.
I think the tone of your post suggests insecurity on your part, not ignorance on mine.
Actually I was referring to you as one of the people agreeing with him simply because he said some muscle names and sounded like he knew his stuff. So you weren't too far off buddy, but try again
Like I said, posting here bores me. I have a life. I get paid a lot of money to tell people this stuff for real, so I seldom bother spending any great amount of time posting here for free. I agreed with the advice he gave, even if some of the content wasn't entirely accurate. I have neither the time nor inclination to correct every single mistake people write in this forum, otherwise I'd be here all day every day. There is a lot of poor advice and misinformation in this thread alone (including inaccuracies of your own), let alone the dozens of others.
The general content of Sweetcheeks post was a little off in places, but his advice was sound. It's easier to refer people to his post knowing they will get good results than it is to write an extensive new post and say largely the same thing.
So, to conclude, get off my back. I didn't start any pissing contest. You did. Some of what you said was inaccurate. Get over it. Learn from it instead of trying to avoid the spotlight by finding fault with others.