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I think I've become afraid to have sex..help appreciated

oldspice891

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I'm not an antisocial guy. I talk and socialize to all kinds of people. I used to be that dude, but not anymore. So I'm not worried about that stuff. I have friends. I've talked and hooked up with girls, and get interest from attractive ones, I just don't know how to pull the trigger. I'm good at flirting, socializing, befriending chicks all that. So I'm cool on that. I'm just looking for help, I'll just try to keep this brief. I'm making this thread after this really hot girl at my work that all the guys want to bang got close to me (she's confessed she's a complete ho and a nympho), and I fukked it up and now we don't talk. People are going WTF and I feel like a bit of a failure for it tbh.

-22, virgin, Used to be fat, lost like 70-80 lbs. Still have moobs which I'm insanely insanely insecure about. still working on getting in good shape.
-Tried to have sex twice, wasn't hard so I didn't take boxers off (was 3 years ago, haven't tried since). Afraid of pulling my pants down (I'm a grower not a shower, but I'm 5 1/2' - 6 1/2 depending on horniness level, so I'm not worried about that)
-Because of that, if I'm making out with a girl, I keep thinking about if Ishould be getting hard and I don't get hard. I'm stuck in this ED mindset that's fukking me up
-Girls try to get close to me, I'll either make out/finger them (as far as I've gotten, no sex or BJ), or blow them off and get friendzoned
-Afraid of sucking at sex given that girls have way more sex and are way more experienced

Basically, I've afraid of trying again and not getting hard and looking like a failure seeing as I meet lots of these girls at class/work.

I've been to 2 diff psychiatrists to overcome this and it didn't help. I went to a Dr. and said instead of giving me viagra or some ****, he told me to wait til marriage (wtf)

I've been holding this in for years and I don't know what to do. I mean, I'm just trying to be honest. I get I sound like a phaggot or pus$y or whatever for saying this, but hopefully you guys can help me out a bit. Guys think I'm good with girls, and some girls think that too, but I think when they get close to me, and I fail to pull them, they I guess somehow realize I'm a fraud?

Anyone have any ideas on how I can overcome this? It's like this conditioned idea locked in my brain

Anyways, thanks for the help guys
 

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You sound a little bit like me man...although I haven't had to go through a big weight-loss period or anything really tough that could be a major confidence issue.

Anyways like you I've pretty much done everything you can with a chick while still being "technically" a virgin. First, second, third base totally conquered multiple times, but never actually sealed the deal. Even just last night I was making out with a girl on her bed...and while she moaned underneath me I lost my erection while I rubbed up against her inner thigh. Coincidentally right as that was happening I started thinking about it and was like "am I hard enough?" "can she tell?"

It's really a mind thing - frustrating I know! I'll be anxious to see what the vets have to say...but just wanted to let you know you're not the only one a little shy in the heat of battle haha.
 

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Gotta get rid of anxiety. A little blue pill Viagra can help you. Get 1 capsule 100 mg, and cut it in 3, for 3 different uses. You don't have to take it every time, after several uses it will cure you - provided you don't jerk off.

Until very recently I've practiced on prostitutes, and I would pay them for an hour, and my d1ck wouldn't get hard and I wouldn't cvm. Problem was jerking off, have to stop doing it for like at least 1 week before sex. Even with that though, there was a problem, especially with prostitutes. I need emotional closeness, and I just wasn't getting it from them.

Then bam, I meet a girl through online, and we get emotionally close, and within 1.5 hours I am fvcking her on the back seat of my car. Yes, I was on viagra. But the next time I wasn't.

You can get over getting undressed by fvcking some prostitutes. I never tried, but I bet adultfriendfinder has lots of them. I tend to pick thin once, with thin legs, cuz d1ck small.
 

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I feel your pain OP, this is a problem I suffered from for a long time.

I posted something similar on here about not being able to pull the trigger when I get girls naked about 3 months ago. The advice given to me went something like this. Can you get hard when you watch porn/ when you jerk off? If the answer is yes, you might consider cutting back on both. I recently went a month without masturbating and the effects were mindblowing (I'm 21). Spontaneous erections all the time, both alone and with girls. It's nature at its best :)

I'm now trying to only masturbate once every two weeks to clean the pipes. It's hard, and I've slipped up a few times. But my erectile dysfunction is less of an issue because of it. Give it a try.

Best of luck.
 

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Well this might be crude, but if you are soft try just putting the tip in. I think the little guy will come around, and she will even love it. Most of her nerves are in the first inch anyway.
 

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ive been in your position before.

its perfectly normal and almost every guy faces this at some level (though your case is a little more extreme).

it'll go away slowly. keep hooking up with girls, go as far as you can. when you get uncomfortable, just stop. every time itll be easier to go further and further.


its like swimming when its cold. it'll be easier to wade out slowly.

if you're a sink or swim kind of guy though, you can always get a hooker to get rid of that anxiety.
 

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Stop masturbating. Will cure all your problems.
 

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It's performance anxiety. You have to build more comfort and lose your insecurity. In some cases it may be best to wait til you get to know a girl better before you pull the trigger. When you're more comfortable around her, your junk will work better. Just keep doing what you're doing until you build up your confidence. You have to learn to focus on just having fun and not impressing her. That'll come in time. Eventually, you'll lose the nervousness.
 

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Jerking off does not have anything to do with it. Just don't over do it. Most times it is an anxiety or an actual disorder. To be honest, I don't even understand why posters here go crazy about masterbation....thinking it is gonna fix everyone's problems..... wierd.
 

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JCballin88 said:
You sound a little bit like me man...although I haven't had to go through a big weight-loss period or anything really tough that could be a major confidence issue.

Anyways like you I've pretty much done everything you can with a chick while still being "technically" a virgin. First, second, third base totally conquered multiple times, but never actually sealed the deal. Even just last night I was making out with a girl on her bed...and while she moaned underneath me I lost my erection while I rubbed up against her inner thigh. Coincidentally right as that was happening I started thinking about it and was like "am I hard enough?" "can she tell?"

It's really a mind thing - frustrating I know! I'll be anxious to see what the vets have to say...but just wanted to let you know you're not the only one a little shy in the heat of battle haha.
Yeah it really sucks to be in this boat, while everyone else is enjoying having sex, this little block is preventing it. Good luck to you man.

backseatjuan said:
Gotta get rid of anxiety. A little blue pill Viagra can help you. Get 1 capsule 100 mg, and cut it in 3, for 3 different uses. You don't have to take it every time, after several uses it will cure you - provided you don't jerk off.

Until very recently I've practiced on prostitutes, and I would pay them for an hour, and my d1ck wouldn't get hard and I wouldn't cvm. Problem was jerking off, have to stop doing it for like at least 1 week before sex. Even with that though, there was a problem, especially with prostitutes. I need emotional closeness, and I just wasn't getting it from them.

Then bam, I meet a girl through online, and we get emotionally close, and within 1.5 hours I am fvcking her on the back seat of my car. Yes, I was on viagra. But the next time I wasn't.

You can get over getting undressed by fvcking some prostitutes. I never tried, but I bet adultfriendfinder has lots of them. I tend to pick thin once, with thin legs, cuz d1ck small.
Yeah that was my whole plan that's why I went to the doctor. Just to get like 1 or 2 pills and cut them up to just get over this hump and get comfortable, but he told me that I should wait til marriage. I might have to look into online dating because it has that anonymity factor to it.

OnTheWayUp said:
I feel your pain OP, this is a problem I suffered from for a long time.

I posted something similar on here about not being able to pull the trigger when I get girls naked about 3 months ago. The advice given to me went something like this. Can you get hard when you watch porn/ when you jerk off? If the answer is yes, you might consider cutting back on both. I recently went a month without masturbating and the effects were mindblowing (I'm 21). Spontaneous erections all the time, both alone and with girls. It's nature at its best :)

I'm now trying to only masturbate once every two weeks to clean the pipes. It's hard, and I've slipped up a few times. But my erectile dysfunction is less of an issue because of it. Give it a try.

Best of luck.
Damn so you went through this too huh? I actually went a period without porn and jacking off, it was brutal, but although I was more energetic and outgoing and was constantly looking at woman 24/7, I still had that huge block that didn't want me to actually sexually pursue them again you know? But I'm glad you got over it, i'll probably have to try it again and keep trying. thanks.

Albatross953 said:
Well this might be crude, but if you are soft try just putting the tip in. I think the little guy will come around, and she will even love it. Most of her nerves are in the first inch anyway.
Yeah I guess I might as well try. I'm a grower not a shower per se, so when I didn't have an erection, I was even scared to take my boxers off. So I mean, even soft I donno how this will reach or it might be kinda awkward lol. It's worth a shot though.
garruk said:
ive been in your position before.

its perfectly normal and almost every guy faces this at some level (though your case is a little more extreme).

it'll go away slowly. keep hooking up with girls, go as far as you can. when you get uncomfortable, just stop. every time itll be easier to go further and further.


its like swimming when its cold. it'll be easier to wade out slowly.

if you're a sink or swim kind of guy though, you can always get a hooker to get rid of that anxiety.
cool cool thanks man. Yeah I guess i'll keep trying at it.
PrettyBoyAJ said:
Stop masturbating. Will cure all your problems.
DId for a while, and though I was insanely horny and looking at women every second I could, I was still afraid to pursue sexually. I guess from the 2 times I had ED, I was I guess scared of doing that again. I'll give it another shot.

PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
This is a big one.

OP, I can relate big time except for the moobs part. It helps to take the women you are making out with off their pedestal and sort of hyper-sexualize/objectify them the way you do with porn. Takes all the pressure off.

No psychiatrist will ever tell you to do that, lol. Basically, if your sexual self esteem is not high enough, lower the value of that girl down to your level for the moment haha. Should not be hard since most women are very low-quality and there are so many slvts out there these days.

Simply put, you are used to mb'ing with no performance expectations from the other party("pressure") and are not used to being "on stage". Just remember that most women, especially the first time, want to be "taken" which means you do what you want when you want to. Treat them no differently than what you fantasize about, be the man.
Hmm I get what you're saying. I think I've made out with a lot of girls, I can get into that aggressive mode that they like, it's just In my mind I'm thinking about if I should be getting hard or not. There was a girl that was a full on slvt that wanted me at work, but I just couldn't pull the trigger because if I couldn't get hard again, every girl would know and I was just afraid of that, so I didn't pursue and now she's probably banging some other guy.

How exactly would I lower them in that moment? What do I say that could make it easier?

Lexington said:
It's performance anxiety. You have to build more comfort and lose your insecurity. In some cases it may be best to wait til you get to know a girl better before you pull the trigger. When you're more comfortable around her, your junk will work better. Just keep doing what you're doing until you build up your confidence. You have to learn to focus on just having fun and not impressing her. That'll come in time. Eventually, you'll lose the nervousness.
Yeah I'll try that. It's just when I've gotten closer to some girls and liked them, obviously I want to have sex with them more than any other girl. But since I know them so well, I feel like it's just THAT much more pressure to do better. How ****ty would it be when we get down to it fvck it up again. But I hear you, gotta change my mindset on that

PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
If you're a virgin at a late age, its a problem. Sex means masturbation and anything else seems as foreign as masturbation did when you first started. If he stops masturbating(and more importantly watching porn) he will get so horny that he cant possibly not get hard, be more aggressive, and get rid of the mental overstimulation of porn. Real sex is about the physical stimulation not that weird ADD mental crap that porn gives.
Yeah man I stopped for a while, but I think my 2 biggest problems are:
1) Afraid of literal skin to skin contact from moobs (even tho I lost a lot of weight and work out regularly, i'm still working on it)
2) and not getting an erection

Even tho I stopped for a while to cure this, these 2 factors were my biggest fear. I know I sound like a huge gigantic pus$y for having these problems but it fvcking sucks when everyone I know is enjoying this simple thing and I can't.


I gotta say, thanks to everyone who posted for your replies. This has really been helpful, and it's a little relieving to see that other guys have been in this position too. Thanks again to everyone, and I'll read this more often to hopefully help me easily get over it.
 

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Hey,you guys sound like church folk and are trying to treat the symptoms and not the cause of the problems. Do a search on that topic, there are a lot posters who expressed concern about the masterbation bullcr@p going around. In fact, jerking off helps with erection not the other way around. And you OP have ED at very young age, which is a medical condition to which you should seek help of a professional and not some guy's advice on the internet.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
You have to say whatever you want and do whatever you want. But its really mental. You have to DEVALUE the girl as not that important or special and OBJECTIFY that girl as a sex object in your mind. You have to place your mental state as the same as when you are watching porn, basically. For me, I would tell myself "this girl is nothing(my first 2 were huge slvts)" and also just look at her body and think about pure sexuality.
This is the worst piece of advice I ever read here.

OP, do you get hard when you are mbing or fantasizing? If so its a mental block you have to get rid of. Just relax, I believe that you making a big hoohah about this is causing you to not be able to get hard. If a girl even agrees to have sex with you, I don't see why moobs (slight ones) turn her off.

And the shower or grower thing means sh!t. As long as you're hard, its the same 6 inches man!
 

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I'm sort of in the same boat here, and I'm trying to overcome this hurdle as well. I've gotten BJs a few times and wasn't able to ***. The first time I received one I came after about 20 minutes. But I've noticed the last two times, I've lost my erection after 2 minutes.. I was also laying down on my back and the girls weren't that great, but whatever.

I think the trick is to not think of sex or virginity as a big deal. Don't focus on whether she's having a good time, but focus on whether you are having a good time in bed.

It could also just be that you don't find the chick that attractive. I've hooked up with girls in my past that I wasn't really in to and had no desire to pursue them, but then over the summer I made out with this girl with a perfect body (to me) and couldn't control my throbbing erection around here lol.
 

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PapiChulo said:
Hey,you guys sound like church folk and are trying to treat the symptoms and not the cause of the problems. Do a search on that topic, there are a lot posters who expressed concern about the masterbation bullcr@p going around. In fact, jerking off helps with erection not the other way around. And you OP have ED at very young age, which is a medical condition to which you should seek help of a professional and not some guy's advice on the internet.
Yeah it's not just the ED but the body image issues, been to 2 psychiatrists, they didn't really help, so I thought to ask sosuave and you guys have been giving great advice

PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
You have to say whatever you want and do whatever you want. But its really mental. You have to DEVALUE the girl as not that important or special and OBJECTIFY that girl as a sex object in your mind. You have to place your mental state as the same as when you are watching porn, basically. For me, I would tell myself "this girl is nothing(my first 2 were huge slvts)" and also just look at her body and think about pure sexuality.
Ok sounds good. I'll try to focus more on her and not on my own insecurities

Konada said:
This is the worst piece of advice I ever read here.

OP, do you get hard when you are mbing or fantasizing? If so its a mental block you have to get rid of. Just relax, I believe that you making a big hoohah about this is causing you to not be able to get hard. If a girl even agrees to have sex with you, I don't see why moobs (slight ones) turn her off.

And the shower or grower thing means sh!t. As long as you're hard, its the same 6 inches man!
Yeah man I wish it were this easy otherwise I wouldn't be making this thread. Went to psychiatric help, nothing. I'm not trying to glorify the situation or make a pity party for myself, none of that at all. Just trying to overcome this so I can have sex and enjoy life you know? That's what one of the Dr.s said, if a girl agrees to have sex, she's already looked at my body and approved of it enough to sleep with me so she knows about moobs. interesting. I guess i'll have to let go of my pre-conditioned thought I've had about that and just accept what other people say in that regard.

Alex DeLarge said:
I'm sort of in the same boat here, and I'm trying to overcome this hurdle as well. I've gotten BJs a few times and wasn't able to ***. The first time I received one I came after about 20 minutes. But I've noticed the last two times, I've lost my erection after 2 minutes.. I was also laying down on my back and the girls weren't that great, but whatever.

I think the trick is to not think of sex or virginity as a big deal. Don't focus on whether she's having a good time, but focus on whether you are having a good time in bed.

It could also just be that you don't find the chick that attractive. I've hooked up with girls in my past that I wasn't really in to and had no desire to pursue them, but then over the summer I made out with this girl with a perfect body (to me) and couldn't control my throbbing erection around here lol.
Some of them I didn't find attractive, some i did. But they all usually had good bodies so it should be enough for any guy to want to go crazy. Yeah I'll try not to look at it as a big deal, it's just kinda hard when I've had a bunch of failed attempts. Makes the whole thing just aggravating kind of.

PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Whatever, it worked for me and I was in the same boat as OP, almost exactly.
I'll definitely try that out next time. If you're saying you were in my boat, and this helped you, then forsure I'll try to think of it that way, because the way I'm thinking isn't working lol so I gotta change it up.


Thanks again to all the replies everyone. You've all been extremely helpful and I appreciate it
 

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When I equate sex to a performance I can have ed problems as well. Think of sex as a raw animal instinct, not a performance. Or better yet, don't think at all, just fvck.

The other night I was with a fwb and another friend of mine that is a girl was having sex with some guy in the room next to us. We could clearly hear it. The floor was shaking, moans, skin on skin slaps, hand on skin slaps etc. She was getting absolutely railed, for like a half an hour. When I was listening to it I was like "wow I don't think I can perform like that." A few minutes later I tried having sex with my fwb but I couldn't get it up, it was weird. I was trying to "perform" instead of just getting horny and doing what my animal instinct tells me to do. So I fingered her for a little and just blamed it on alcohol and went to sleep.

The next morning we had some great sex. I was horny as hell and I acted on it without thinking. I just wanted to fvck and didn't care about how I performed. All I wanted to do was fvck this cute girl next to me. We ended up being pretty loud as well and I'm pretty sure they heard us in the other room. (Hopefully the girl heard us cause I kind of want to do her as well, she sounds like a freak.)

Also, working out has always increased my libido. When you're that horny and you embrace your horniness, you don't think about "performance", you just instinctively fvck.

Good luck.
 
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