How much to be "Indifferent"

[jacketman]

There's a lot of talk on here about "backing off" and going "No contact" when we see lowered interest in women. I agree with this in principle, and have often see it work under some circumstances. But I struggle with how far to take this - at a certain point, wouldn't some girls think you are no longer interested and decide to move on from you?

The instance I'm specifically talking about has to do with a girl I was hooking up with a couple weeks ago. We hooked up a few times over a week, had good secks, and then I perceived her interest lowering. There were long gaps in text responses, she wouldn't initiate any convos, and when I would see her at work she would be rather indifferent.

I have a feeling she is struggling getting over a recent breakup (b/u with her boyfriend of 3 years about a month ago). I wish she could verbalize this to me but she hasn't said anything, just faded away. We're talking high interest, lots of texts, to nothing.

The question I am facing is how "indifferent" to be towards her. I ask because I run into her about every other day at work, and see her at work events. We are polite to eachother and exchange small talk, but there's not much flirting. And neither of us has asked the other out since last week.

How indifferent do I be? Do I ignore her? Be friendly? Be flirty? Would it be harmful to my cause to check in via text to see how she's doing? I.e. is it possible that she just thinks I'm no longer interested? There has been no texting for 1 week.

 

[GotED?]

There's very little you can do with a woman who's interest level is declining - especially AFTER you have already had sex with her. Something didn't go right and you lost your frame with her.

The INDIFFERENT thing only works from the beginning when you have control of your frame in the woman and her interest level is high. I use INDIFFERENCE when a woman tries to sh!t test me, plays hard to get, or trying to get me jealous by talking about non-sense bullsh!t.

Really your best option is to go NO CONTACT and cut your losses. You are already beginning the chasing mode and will become desperate in her eyes. You can only raise her interest HOPEFULLY by going NO CONTACT and seriously find other options and stop focusing on her.

Most ATTRACTIVE women I have been with, are seriouly fooked up not knowing what they want in a man because their choices are too many and they don't know how to discern players from non-players. In the end, they reject you subconsciously not really knowing it, it all comes from a place of fear. A woman's fear of being hurt is HUGE - she rather stay single and not fall in love if you can not play your game right and counter-act to her game successfully.

HERE IS THE KEY TO GAMING BEAUTIFUL WOMEN - when they attempt to reject you (or play hard to get intentionally), this is because they unconsciouly don't know what they want UNTIL THEY NO LONGER HAVE THE MAN IN QUESTION. This is a basic human being behavioral flaw - people don't know what they have until it is gone. You must make her FEEL this LOSS before you really NEXT her, this is a form of art you must learn to master.

The woman I am recently dating, did this exact thing to me - she was showing me all the RIGHT signals of high interest (her touching me, looking at me eye to eye, never fooked with our scheduled dates, and always wanted to stay longer). You have to learn to IGNORE what a woman says and judge by her action that dictates true interest. The sh!t that comes out of their mouth, such as some stupid thing that feels like she's rejecting you, is just her fear of getting intimate with you and getting hurt. You have to OVER RIDE that by applying a firm game of INDIFFERENCE and POSSIBLE NEXTING (no bluff, you must follow through if she fails to react).

I told that woman after she attempted to fook with my head by saying there's still a guy in her mind that she can't get over (the guy she last dated) and she feels guilty about that (fooked up talk), and at the same time her action speaks the exact opposite and displaying 100% high interest when with me. I called her bluff, and told her she's wasting my time and I really do not want to see her anymore because why would any healthy attractive man would waste time on her when there's plenty of other beautiful women out there available without all the work and hassle.

She ended wanting to be exclusive in dating me after I threatened to disappear. It works - but you must have your game 100% and you are 100% confident, congruent, and show no weakness or fakeness in who you are as a man that knows he is the prize.

Hope that helps explain a few major concepts of being a DJ.

Be well.

Exodus

 

[Dgwizdal]

There's very little you can do with a woman who's interest level is declining - especially AFTER you have already had sex with her. Something didn't go right and you lost your frame with her.

The INDIFFERENT thing only works from the beginning when you have control of your frame in the woman and her interest level is high. I use INDIFFERENCE when a woman tries to sh!t test me, plays hard to get, or trying to get me jealous by talking about non-sense bullsh!t.

Really your best option is to go NO CONTACT and cut your losses. You are already beginning the chasing mode and will become desperate in her eyes. You can only raise her interest HOPEFULLY by going NO CONTACT and seriously find other options and stop focusing on her.

Most ATTRACTIVE women I have been with, are seriouly fooked up not knowing what they want in a man because their choices are too many and they don't know how to discern players from non-players. In the end, they reject you subconsciously not really knowing it, it all comes from a place of fear. A woman's fear of being hurt is HUGE - she rather stay single and not fall in love if you can not play your game right and counter-act to her game successfully.

HERE IS THE KEY TO GAMING BEAUTIFUL WOMEN - when they attempt to reject you (or play hard to get intentionally), this is because they unconsciouly don't know what they want UNTIL THEY NO LONGER HAVE THE MAN IN QUESTION. This is a basic human being behavioral flaw - people don't know what they have until it is gone. You must make her FEEL this LOSS before you really NEXT her, this is a form of art you must learn to master.

The woman I am recently dating, did this exact thing to me - she was showing me all the RIGHT signals of high interest (her touching me, looking at me eye to eye, never fooked with our scheduled dates, and always wanted to stay longer). You have to learn to IGNORE what a woman says and judge by her action that dictates true interest. The sh!t that comes out of their mouth, such as some stupid thing that feels like she's rejecting you, is just her fear of getting intimate with you and getting hurt. You have to OVER RIDE that by applying a firm game of INDIFFERENCE and POSSIBLE NEXTING (no bluff, you must follow through if she fails to react).

I told that woman after she attempted to fook with my head by saying there's still a guy in her mind that she can't get over (the guy she last dated) and she feels guilty about that (fooked up talk), and at the same time her action speaks the exact opposite and displaying 100% high interest when with me. I called her bluff, and told her she's wasting my time and I really do not want to see her anymore because why would any healthy attractive man would waste time on her when there's plenty of other beautiful women out there available without all the work and hassle.

She ended wanting to be exclusive in dating me after I threatened to disappear. It works - but you must have your game 100% and you are 100% confident, congruent, and show no weakness or fakeness in who you are as a man that knows he is the prize.

Hope that helps explain a few major concepts of being a DJ.

Be well.

Exodus

Good Stuff - A little more on indifference: I'd like to add that indifference can go a bit too far after the attraction foundation has been laid, you've banged multiple times, and a girl is now looking for you to build rapport, comfort, and commitment. The tactics used to game chicks and bed them often backfire when the relationship is supposed to be headed somewhere in the girls eyes and the guy is still in aloof/indifference land keeping things at a distance.

A girl will get fed up and eject rationalizing that you are a waste of time before looking like a fool and getting too emotionally involved where she puts herself in a position to get HURT by the "player" or a guy that is not genuinely interested in taking things further or showing signs that there may be a bright future. It is her final trump card and ultimate sh*t test to your indifference.

From there, she most likely will put you in "auto-reject" territory until you prove that you are relationship material subconsciously setting you up for disaster if you decide to chase or reestablish rapport too quickly. She'd love to watch you squirm...




As for you:

Chances are she isn't over her boyfriend which is going to fvck your game up big time. Its only been a month since the split. No Contact for now and put her on ice for a bit while banging other girls. Eventually she'll melt and come around or she won't - either way you keep your respect and frame.

 

[May_Day]

at a certain point, wouldn't some girls think you are no longer interested and decide to move on from you?

I perceived her interest lowering. There were long gaps in text responses, she wouldn't initiate any convos, and when I would see her at work she would be rather indifferent.

I have a feeling she is struggling getting over a recent breakup (b/u with her boyfriend of 3 years about a month ago).

The question I am facing is how "indifferent" to be towards her. I ask because I run into her about every other day at work, and see her at work events. We are polite to eachother and exchange small talk, but there's not much flirting. And neither of us has asked the other out since last week.

Don't you think that an interested girl would contact you if she was truly interested? Lowered interest means she doesn't dig you like she used to. No point in flirting and calling until she reaches out. The boyfriend is just an excuse because she was hooking up with you already before. Her interest is declining, that's all that it is. That is what happens when you fvck around with a co worker. You have to put up with that chick all the time in a work environment. That is why I say not to even attempt it in the first place. Just be cordial to her in a professional manner so your job doesn't become in jeopardy if she starts causing you trouble.

 

[thunder_god]

There's very little you can do with a woman who's interest level is declining - especially AFTER you have already had sex with her. Something didn't go right and you lost your frame with her.

The INDIFFERENT thing only works from the beginning when you have control of your frame in the woman and her interest level is high. I use INDIFFERENCE when a woman tries to sh!t test me, plays hard to get, or trying to get me jealous by talking about non-sense bullsh!t.

Really your best option is to go NO CONTACT and cut your losses. You are already beginning the chasing mode and will become desperate in her eyes. You can only raise her interest HOPEFULLY by going NO CONTACT and seriously find other options and stop focusing on her.

Most ATTRACTIVE women I have been with, are seriouly fooked up not knowing what they want in a man because their choices are too many and they don't know how to discern players from non-players. In the end, they reject you subconsciously not really knowing it, it all comes from a place of fear. A woman's fear of being hurt is HUGE - she rather stay single and not fall in love if you can not play your game right and counter-act to her game successfully.

HERE IS THE KEY TO GAMING BEAUTIFUL WOMEN - when they attempt to reject you (or play hard to get intentionally), this is because they unconsciouly don't know what they want UNTIL THEY NO LONGER HAVE THE MAN IN QUESTION. This is a basic human being behavioral flaw - people don't know what they have until it is gone. You must make her FEEL this LOSS before you really NEXT her, this is a form of art you must learn to master.

The woman I am recently dating, did this exact thing to me - she was showing me all the RIGHT signals of high interest (her touching me, looking at me eye to eye, never fooked with our scheduled dates, and always wanted to stay longer). You have to learn to IGNORE what a woman says and judge by her action that dictates true interest. The sh!t that comes out of their mouth, such as some stupid thing that feels like she's rejecting you, is just her fear of getting intimate with you and getting hurt. You have to OVER RIDE that by applying a firm game of INDIFFERENCE and POSSIBLE NEXTING (no bluff, you must follow through if she fails to react).

I told that woman after she attempted to fook with my head by saying there's still a guy in her mind that she can't get over (the guy she last dated) and she feels guilty about that (fooked up talk), and at the same time her action speaks the exact opposite and displaying 100% high interest when with me. I called her bluff, and told her she's wasting my time and I really do not want to see her anymore because why would any healthy attractive man would waste time on her when there's plenty of other beautiful women out there available without all the work and hassle.

She ended wanting to be exclusive in dating me after I threatened to disappear. It works - but you must have your game 100% and you are 100% confident, congruent, and show no weakness or fakeness in who you are as a man that knows he is the prize.

Hope that helps explain a few major concepts of being a DJ.

Be well.

Exodus

I wished I had seen this post 3 months ago, then I wouldn't be in my current situation .

 

[jacketman]

Update: Been No Contact for about a week. No messages, nothing. When I've seen her in the halls, I don't stop and talk but keep on going.

I think it's thrown her for a loop. Saw her at a happy hour yesterday, she seemed excited to see me and gave me a hug. I talked to other ppl but she eventually came by and started talking with us, and we flirted a little. I told her my buddy and I were leaving to meet friends at a Mardi Gras event. I think that piqued her interest. When we walked to get a drink I led her by the hand. She hugged me goodbye and whispered "bye, sweetie" in my ear. I left with my buddy and we had an awesome time at another bar.

Gonna maintain no contact and see if momentum builds...