SmoothTalker said:
You're an idiot and missed my whole point. How old are you, and where the hell did you go to high school?
Yes it does (or at least can) work like you said in the adult world. I am not disagreeing with you, and don't follow the model I outlined now that I'm out of high school.
IT DOES NOT work like that in high school.
Why? Because high school is a closed social construct. You might not be judgemental about 'slutty' behaviour, but everyone else is. And girls are so so so paranoid about their reputation at this age. Word spreads like wildfire. I had a female friend in high school who was gamed like this by a 'player' grade 11 guy when she was in grade 9. They were not dating but she went to his house and they fooled around - not even actual sex.
Within a week all 1000 people in my school knew, and you best believe that reputation haunted her for at least a year - and she was extremely tame with her sex life after that until the end of high school.
And here's the important part. Its entirely possible and even fairly easy to have great wild raunchy sex while in high school. If the girl TRUSTS that what she does with her boyfriend will stay between them, she'll do pretty much anything. However, most girls simply will not have this trust with a guy that just cold approached them in the hall and wants to **** them the next day. The fear of the slut label is very strong for girls this age.
And for the record I do believe there is such a thing as a slut. If you want a woman that has ****ed 50 different guys in the last year and probably has 5 different infections be my guest. I'd prefer a girl with standards, just like I myself won't **** everything that moves.
What was your personal experience in high school? Did you have the personality that attracts women? If no then don't try to use other stuff to justify what your saying...
We have two different mindsets, but coming from my own personal experience me being non-judgmental made EVERY woman open up to me. I'm talking about these chicks would say and do some of the most bizzare sh!t because I don't care. My 2nd social circle in high school was a group of lesbians who used to turn all the chicks bi...COUNTLESS times I could've got a 3some but I was just getting into all this stuff and didn't know how I'd go about doing that. I've personally had a chick give me head after only knowing her for 5mins...her 5 friends knew, it was our little secret...
Your coming from the Social Norm...I'm coming from my own reality...if you knew what is going on when two people interact the woman is actually coming into your frame...My frame is very sexually liberated, no judgment, just pure fun...which is why meeting a chick and having sex was no big deal...even NOW I don't follow social norm because someone else is basically dictating your life, not you.
Honestly I don't get how guys are in this scene, experience some bizzare sh!t and still have the audacity to call chicks sluts...that must mean were the biggest sluts...and have some common sense obviously if she has a disease you wouldn't have sex with her...but that has nothing to do with what were talking about because a virgin can have sex with one girl and get a disease if you want to get all technical.
Maybe I'm just in la la land and have everything twisted because I've been around pornstars, lesbians, bi sexuals, nymphos, hardcore party chicks, etc and they all are human beings to me. I know for sure not the average man can have sex with them...just because they have sex with many guys, doesn't mean anything...they have options and can choose when they want sex...it's too many double standards...
...and coming from a guy who is in the community I know you've had to see some bizzare sh!t...it's really a "Secret Society" of guys who get special treatment, because your average guy can't go around getting 10+ makeouts in a day, having dozens of 3somes, fingering chicks on the dancefloor, fuking chicks on the elevator, or park, etc. I tell my most common stories to friends and they act as if I am from another planet.
When I was in high school all I had to do was pump up a chicks buying temperature and then close...that is how I was pulling same day...I'd have to pump them back up the next day if I didn't pull that day. For a more longer attraction I'd walk around arm in arm with chicks just to make every chick notice I was pre-selected... (I no longer do this sh!t) I had times where chicks wanted me to pull them and I'd literally make my natural friend escalate on her...I've had chicks do stuff and then the next day try and rationalize it saying they were just real horny that day and it'd never happen again...
Maybe I have it all wrong, and all the guys I know in high school should just drop out and wait until there out of high school...haha...I have a wing right now who is 17 and just finished high school...yes he was getting laid in high school consistently...now he's off to college with even better social skills than he had before. This is a guy who never did a cold approach before I met him, who have had same day lays and multiple gfs...
COLD APPROACHING IS NOT DEAD
All you high schoolers stop being chode and get out there, it's only 4 years of schooling, it's your playground to experiment...I know another wing who learned this in college became the BIGGEST creep...came to NY and pulls 4 hours off the street...I think he had sex with 3 chicks in one week and has himself a REAL cool gf...put in the effort and you'll see the rewards because I surely did and that goes BEYOND just laying chicks...WAY BEYOND...
Believe or not...
comon ppl