Has SoSuave actually helped anyone?

[Rollo Tomassi]

Observing a process will change it.

Even the most rank noob, the most extreme AFC and the most socially conditioned, Matrix fed, doubters cannot help but have their eyes opened in some small part. If for no other reason than an opposite, alternative to their mindset is considered. How they choose to interpret it, apply it, accept it or not, and allow it to "help" their condition is a personal issue. However, at some point in a guys personal life he'll see the patterns and principles described here and make that connection because he did participate in the community, even if it was just to lurk here.

 

[Royal Ace]

for me it has. sure i'm not getting insane lay (or even any tbh) but it has pushed me to working out and getting a proper diet to get fit.

it has opened me the eyes about a lot of crap that I should look out for when i start dating etc. LOL if only the rest of the internet had been as useful as this forum, that would be gold.

but hey, information can only get you so far. You gotta be willing to go and do it for yourself.

 

[Snow Plowman]

lol @ thread...I'm not sure if your tallking just about this site or Seduction forums in general. (Since you mention MM)

Everyone comes into this differently, the whole process of learning pickup is to improve yourself. It's just a skill, that teaches you how to consistently get women and become a guy who women are naturally attracted too.

Has Seduction Forums helpped me, hell yes.

NEVER in my life would I have ever thought about Acting, nor wanting to travel around to world or become a food lover. I won't even go into how I was when I was younger because I honestly didn't even think I'd be alive to see 18!! Pickup turned me into a person of Positivity and a person who loves experiencing things.

Never in a million years will I ever regret ever finding this site, because it's CHANGED my life a TON. I know who I am, I know where I want to go, I have a clear picture of how I want my lifestyle to be and how I want to come across.

Just having someone go approach women doesn't mean he will consistently get women. Of course he will get some because he is knocking on so many doors. But your assuming that everyone has a strong inner game. Some guys are coming into this scared as sh!t, and so the outer game stuff give them a sense of hope. (Confidence)

Meanwhile if a guy who had great inner game and could easily approach women, the only thing he is missing is that he doesn't have an understanding of the social dyanamics going on and he doesn't have a gameplan of how to even handle certain situations.

That is why you'd have to do both. But either way 80% of the guys that know about pickup, about half of them don't even try another half don't even really put that much effort and then you have the 20% who have went through the whole process and can actually pickup women anywhere and anytime consistently.

For me so longs a guy is out trying then thats good enough, he has all the time in the world to get good. So longs he isn't in the house reading and never going out then I'd always be willing to give advice.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Im not sure about what Franc meant but:

Im sure:
- Recognizing the need of help
- Asking for help
- Take and apply whats besto for one

Is something a real man would do !

Well, if you have toexplain how to learn to get better at a thing....

 

[sbgm]

I have been here for some years. Before I found this site, I was a Below Average Frustrated Chump. Now I'm like in the middle, on my way to get girls, I know them coming soon

 

[j0n024]

I agree.. this site has help me somewhat. I can now talk to girl and I have found my balls again, because you can say "Just do it" doesnt necessarily mean that someone will "Just do it." I mean ask a friend of yours to go talk to a hot chick he fancies and 9/10 chances he will puss out even when you do say "Just do it" I am not learning everything nor am I obsessed about becoming the best, I am going at my own pace and it does seem to help. I dont understand why you have to bash this site since you dont see any results, I say just do whatever you wanna do man and hey maybe someday you will be talking to a girl thinking you got her when out of nowhere another girl start's to get her attention and just steals her away from you right under your nose and what is going to happen are you going to get mad and let him win...probably because you probably wont know how to deal with the situation but that's just my opinion soo whatever do what you want bye.

 

[reset]

This site has helped me wake up from the matrix and see life (and my place in it) in a whole new way. That's worth more than tips on Pick Up.

Tips and techniques don't replace the inadequecy (lack of confidence) they are intended to cover up. But they can help to simulate the actions of someone who has genuine confidence, as was mentioned earlier.

I'm now of the opinion that the only thing holding men back from having good women in their lives is the need to have good women in their lives to the point they can't think of anything else. This is true for me at least.

You can see this site as a way to learn techniques that can "trick" girls into thinking you are the prize, or use it as a way to actually feel like the prize whether there's a girl in the picture or not.

This site hasn't helped me "pick up" girls, but it has helped me deal with lots of drama with girls I already had "something" with, and to see everything in a new light.

At some point that's going to help with girls I haven't met yet.

 

[PRMoon]

More then anything else this site has helped if not forced me to take a hard look inward and ask myself alot of tough questions. Is it really worth me going through all this for this girl? Why am I acting this way and can I fight it? What are some ways I can improve my life in general girls asside? How will this benefit my career? Do I really want oil AND vinegar on this subway sandwich etc etc. If you learn anything know that there will always be more and more questions and looking for awnsers will always be a priority in your short time on this planet.

 

[Obsidian]

Maybe the op could have just "thought up" some of the "basic" stuff here on his own, but most guys are trapped in the matrix and have no idea that being an AFC is bad. And yeah, peac0cking and routines are generally kinda silly, unless you're just looking to try out something new.

And sosuave has definitely helped me, although I'm not yet where I want to be.

 

[Phyzzle]

Christ, I'm the only one who ever reads post histories.

Dude, I got 2 girls chasing me now - one is pretty much a "girlfriend".

How I got them wasn't due to SoSuave, it was just grabbing hold of my balls and saying to myself "enough is enough". I swallowed my fear and started talking. Simple as that.

Most people here want short cuts and tricks that they think will somehow get the girl for them and that they wont have to talk / be confident because theyre just pussies.

Its as simple as this: Look good, and be motivated.

It doesn't matter whether you go up and say 'Hi' or use some mystery opener crap, it's really not gonna make much of a difference.

:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

I'm so sorry, but didn't you have the first date of your entire life YESTERDAY!?

And now you get a date, you're lecturing us about how two girls are 'chasing' you which means nobody here 'gets it' but you, so now, no strategies, no game, and no effort is necessary, so "just be yourself" and get all the girls you want?

This is retarded.

 

[My Name is Nobody]

There is TONS and TONS of material on this site that has helped me get laid!

 

[sexy_kuta]

it didnt help me much beside confused me, BUT
it helped me to get to my tru colors. the real me, it got the person i idolize, to become me.
the game, all of that. came from me, sosauve just recognized it for me.
and when i had oneitis, i left the site, so i could get it over myself. and i did.

 

[DonJuan11]

I haven't. The only thing that has helped me is the fear of going home like every other night dissapointed and thinking why i didnt do anything.

Balls is all you need, and silly little routines, tricks, "peacocking" items, wont help you at all.

That's why you need porn. In porn there are no questions asked and she does whatever we want, whenever we want. You think we can HB 8 and above by just being ourselves? Think again. Most of us weren't blessed with good looks or fabulous height so we will most likely never pull a HB 8 on a consistent basis.

They say porn = violence against women and degrades them. Damn straight. How else do you expect us to get back at all the women rejecting us throughout the years?

 

[Ace of Flames]

This site is about a whole lot more than getting chicks. Its about growing up, becoming a man, figuring out what you want out of life. This site has given me direction, insight, and knowledge. It helped me to realize my capabilities, not just with women, but in many areas of life.

This site helped me find my confidence.

 

[Answers]

It has helped me alot in many ways.

-I now understand women better. I know they don't always say things they mean and although complex I'm begining to understand what makes women tick.
-I now know exactly why and where I messed up in the past which is a relief because I used to be really down on myself wondering why women were all over me 1 minute (when I wasn't that interested) and didn't want to know me the next (just as I was becoming more attracted to them).
-There are loads of tips on outer game that I find very useful.
-Inner game is the area that I'm working on most. I am now begining to see people differently and see myself differently.

I think there are some excellent posters here and even though I don't always agree with them theres always something interesting to read.

 

[young_gun]

Spax you are a blind fool. You've been here for one month and you think you know about what this site is all about.

I'm almost 21 years old, and I've been coming here since I was 17. I used to come here and look for cool things to do in each situation, what to say when I "open a set" of women, and ask guys about what they would do in my shoes. This site isn't about that. It's about helping you become the best man you can be.

Have you read the DJ bible? There are very few posts in there that talk about what to do in this situation, etc. It's about changing your mindset so that you know how to handle yourself in ANY situation. It's about becoming the best you for yourself, and then women will be a side product of your success.

Maybe this site has helped you, maybe it hasn't. Quit being a whiny b1tch about it. If you're so good with girls, why don't you share your all-knowing wisdom with us?

 

[Poonani Maker]

Yeah it's all about attitude. Put that with money, having a nice house, having a nice car, and you can just about bang any woman. Women are materialistic and want to use your resources to raise their kids.

 

[comic_relief]

This site has helped me tremendously and I see the point of this post. I disagree with it for newbies though because in order to do something, they must know what the hell they are doing.

You continually say that you just need to grab your balls and just do it. But in reality, you were lucky because you knew how to talk to women. Some guys are not that lucky.

I know that I was very unconfident and had a large trust issue (gave it too quickly) and if I would have just grabbed my balls to just do it, I would have been HURT very quickly. It wasn't until I learned from this site how to do it correctly that I learned the truth.

Therefore, I see the premise of this post and disagree with it. People are at different stages of their lives with this stuff and need to learn at their own pace.

Currently, I have a girlfriend, three girls that would love to be my girlfriend, and a plethora of friends. My newest roommate is a girl that I am best friends with and I am currently in a great college. I'm currently planning on creating my dream life at the ripe old age of 20.

I am still only here to help the other people that need help along their own DJ timetable.

comic_relief

 

[muscleman]

SS wouldn't exist if it didn't help anyone genius.

Yes is has helped me lots. I've double the amount of girls I've slept with since joining the "community".

 

[Being_the_Don]

This site has helped me. I've learned to be more wary of the b*tch tests and to not reward bad behavior. And I'm a regular down in H&F. Keeping a regular journal down there helps keep me motivated in my workouts. I also read the other threads in that section and learn new ideas I can incorporate into my own workouts.

This forum is good, it's the trolls/flamebaiters who are bad.